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Oops - Apple lost their secret phone! They want it back!

  • 20-04-2010 10:32AM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭


    A top secret phone that was/is the next gimmick from Apple was stolen and lost by apparently a stupid thief.
    The next generation iPhone has apparently been found on the floor in the toilet of a bar in California.

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    The handset was disguised in a case designed to make it look like the latest model, the 3GS, according to technology website Gizmodo.
    But, when its eagle-eyed finder noticed a few differences, they peeled off the casing and saw a new-look model with a host of different features, the website said.
    Pictures show an Apple-branded handset with a front-facing camera for video chatting, a much larger lens on the rear camera and, for the first time, a flash.
    More here: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100419/twl-new-iphone-prototype-found-in-bar-to-3fd0ae9.html

    The people that found it were contacted: http://gizmodo.com/5520479/a-letter-apple-wants-its-secret-iphone-back

    I guess someone is in big trouble at Apple.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    I call bull****, if this story is true, apple are behind it. They are excellent at getting the rumour mill going in the months coming up to new product launches, and will have apple fanboys creaming themselves before june


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Good ol' Gizmodo. They should hang onto it as long as possible. Does 'possession is 9/10s of the law' apply in a case like this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,291 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Didn't gizmodo pay $10,000 for it I hear?
    The state of the fúcking thing, step backwards


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Stee wrote: »
    I call bull****, if this story is true, apple are behind it. They are excellent at getting the rumour mill going in the months coming up to new product launches, and will have apple fanboys creaming themselves before june

    50/50 myself.
    An alternative new PR stunt? Wouldn't put it past them.
    Anything to combat the new Microsoft phone coming out I suspect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,540 ✭✭✭Homer


    Sanjuro wrote: »
    Good ol' Gizmodo. They should hang onto it as long as possible. Does 'possession is 9/10s of the law' apply in a case like this?

    Apparently not under California Law. Owner has up to 3 years to claim the item back.
    The letter from Apple to Gizmodo looks well dodgy, the wording the Apple logo, the lot..

    I call shenanigans!!!!!


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    phone happened to be left in a bar... picked up by some super sharp eyed techy who did a bit of fiddling and uncovered the new iPhone...

    oh and then Gizmondo bought it...

    ...yeah

    that's believable :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Yeah, wouldn't put it past Apple for this to be a promo stunt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,291 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Steve Jobs wrote:

    Give it back

    Sent from my iPhone 4G


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    The last employee that lost a 4th Gen iPhone prototype was found dead...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Bazzy


    Stunt.com they are getting as bad as ryanair with advertising shennanigans !


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    Biggins wrote: »
    A top secret phone that was/is the next gimmick from Apple was stolen and lost by apparently a stupid thief.

    I don't think it was stolen by a thief, it was (apparently) lost by a hapless employee who was testing the device.

    Although I suppose you could say whoever found it, took it home and sold it to the highest bidder did indeed steal it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 960 ✭✭✭tipperaryboy


    I would think that it is a publicity stunt.surely that actually couldn't happen that apple would even let it out of the building and then an employee loses it and a tech head just happens to pick it up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Biggins wrote: »
    they peeled off the casing and saw a new-look model with a host of different features,

    The main feature is a microscope to enable the user to actually see his dick.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    I would think that it is a publicity stunt.surely that actually couldn't happen that apple would even let it out of the building and then an employee loses it and a tech head just happens to pick it up.
    Thats what has my guard up too.
    I can assume the Apple tech labs are well guarded by cameras and security.
    Everything they work on logged and/or recorded on file as to whom is doing what to what item.

    I smell a rat - or should it be "apple"?

    The sheep eventually will instantly fork out for this latest way to make them part with their cash though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,260 ✭✭✭Elessar


    It doesn't seem to by a publicity stunt. Apple have formally requested it back. And before the 3G was released, there were sightings in public of the phone. It's part of testing it.

    I genuinely believe this was an actual mistake by that employee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭jon1981


    Sickner to be Gray Powell!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,291 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    Biggins wrote: »
    Thats what has by guard up too.
    I can assume the Apple tech labs are well guarded by cameras and security.
    Everything they work on logged and/or recorded on file as to whom is doing what to what item.

    I smell a rat - or should it be "apple"?

    The sheep eventually will instantly fork out for this latest way to make them part with their cash though.

    I agree...
    Apple are a massively secretive company who guard everything they make like it was the ark of the covenant. i'd be really surprised of they let this thing out of the lab.
    definite publicity stunt.
    http://www.cracked.com/article_17153_9-corporate-attempts-at-edgy-that-failed-hilariously.html

    http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    Lol @ the pisstake gray powell facebook page. i'm sure he deleted his profile when this blew up.

    heres a more detailed story

    http://gizmodo.com/5520438/how-apple-lost-the-next-iphone?skyline=true&s=i


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Biggins wrote: »
    I smell a rat - or should it be "apple"?

    A rotten apple perhaps?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,691 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    A secret phone that could have a 5mp camera with a flash, front facing camera, noise cancelling microphone and who knows, even text message delivery reports!

    Go apple, welcome to 2005!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭ProjectColossus


    Steve Jobs wrote:

    Give it back

    Sent from my iPhone 4G

    You totally copy pasted that from here :P

    I dunno, whole story seem entirely plausible to me. Apple have a history of testing new tech in the field. And the fact that the phone is not shown to operate falls in with Apple remote wiping it, cause they've lost it.

    For what it's worth, I think the phone looks great asthetically, better than the previous versions. Love to be able to afford one :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,581 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Hard to know if it bull**** or not, usually they don't give any info out before a product is launched... so why do something like this when you don't need to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Bonkers_xOx


    Had a bit of a heart attack when I was just on the apple website.

    8E578C003D3B4899A9E08E60A6900A3C.jpg

    My brain only took in the words "iPhone", "Sneak Peak" and "4". I feel like a tool now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭Des Carter


    Its clearly a publicity stunt to take the attention off Microsoft but its clear that Microsoft or way better than Apple and are leading the way.

    Just look at their next new product.



    I cant wait.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭sron


    Stee wrote: »
    I call bull****, if this story is true, apple are behind it. They are excellent at getting the rumour mill going in the months coming up to new product launches, and will have apple fanboys creaming themselves before june

    If Apple marketing is behind this they've misstepped considerably. Instead of a gradual 'leaking' which takes place over a few moths and maintains interest with a few photos here and there, they now have headlines saying, "New IPhone Found on Toilet Floor". I happen to think that the Apple marketers are too smart to let that happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭lil_lisa


    That Microsoft Table has been in development for the last three years or more, what are they doing??

    There's only one way to solve the case of the "iPhone: Lost Or Stolen in Toilet to Make Scandal"

    I call it the "iPhone lost to MS" mystery.

    If we here reports on the 'employee' who 'lost' the phone and they are threatening to commit suicide (like the previous unfortunate Apple employee) then we know its true. Otherwise its a publicity stunt!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,994 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    steve jobs replied to the loss of the iphone
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjhta_KmPkE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Stee wrote: »
    I call bull****, if this story is true, apple are behind it. They are excellent at getting the rumour mill going in the months coming up to new product launches, and will have apple fanboys creaming themselves before june
    Its legitimate. Giz wasnt even sure if it was. But they paid $5k for it and ran with the story.

    Finally though Apple wrote to them requesting/insisting on Giz Returning Apple's Property. The letter well confirmed this was no hoax. What you're looking at is the 4th generation iPhone, and this was not a deliberate leak.

    Giz has already agreed to return it; theyve already gotten their story out of it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Just an update on this, it looks like Jason Chen, the editor @ gizmodo directly involved in the whole spiel has had a search warrant serviced on all of his home electronics on the basis that the state of california believes it was used as a felony.

    Meanwhile Gawker Media, the rather large multimillion that owns Gizmodo, has jumped to the defense of Chen and his belongings under California's Shield Law - which protects journalists from revealing their sources. As a full time Gizmodo employee, his computers are likely chocked full of sensitive journalism sources.

    The case is on hold and afaik the PCs are in lockup until lawyers can decide if its lawful to have the hard drives searched.

    http://consumerist.com/2010/04/police-seize-gizmodo-editors-computers.html
    Police on Friday seized several computers from the home of Gizmodo editor Jason Chen, after they were granted a warrant allowing them to confiscate property that "may have been used as the means of committing a felony." The warrant specifically mentions that officials are looking for information about the iPhone 4G, a prototype of which Gizmodo obtained from a source who found it after an Apple engineer left it behind in a bar.

    Gizmodo previously admitted paying $5,000 to acquire the phone, and has stated that they "didn't know it was stolen." Gaby Darbyshire, COO of Gizmodo parent Gawker Media, believes any information on Chen's computers is protected under California's shield law, which allows journalists to protect anonymous sources. "Jason is a journalist who works full-time for our company," she wrote in a letter to the officer who executed the warrant. According to Darbyshire, the law protects any "unpublished information" on Chen's computers, and she requested the "immediate return" of all seized property.

    Gizmodo had previously replied to a letter from Apple's lawyers by saying they were "happy to see [the phone] returned to its rightful owner."

    Update: The case is reportedly on hold as the San Mateo County District Attorney's office reviews Gizmodo's shield law defense. According to one report, Chen's computers haven't been examined yet, and won't be until after the DA completes the review. (Thanks, GetEmSteveDave!)

    Police Seize Jason Chen's Computers - Iphone 4 leak - [Gizmodo]

    How the Shield Law plays out, however, may potentially prove ground-breaking:


    http://mashable.com/2010/04/26/gizmodo-gawker-and-online-journalism/
    The tale of the engineer who lost the next-generation iPhone that was leaked across the web has taken a dramatic turn, one that could determine not only whether criminal charges are filed, but whether bloggers should be treated as journalists under the law.

    Last Monday, gadget blog Gizmodo posted pictures and videos of what is most likely a prototype of Apple’s next-generation iPhone, which was lost at a bar by an Apple engineer. It was soon revealed that Gizmodo’s parent company, Gawker Media, paid at least $5,000 for the device. Controversy soon erupted over whether Gawker violated the law by purchasing the next-gen iPhone, as it could be construed as stolen property.

    On Friday, police raided Gizmodo editor Jason Chen’s home and seized his computers as part of an investigation over whether purchasing and leaking the phone was indeed a crime. Now Gawker is claiming that the search warrant was illegal because it confiscated the property of a journalist, a protection granted in section 1070 of the Evidence Code.

    The entire saga has brought a slew of legal, moral, and ethical issues that could impact the future of blogging and journalism. It depends on how the legal and criminal issues play out.
    The California Shield Law

    To frame the rest of this analysis, it’s important to understand the laws that are being referenced over and over again in this investigation.

    Section 1524(g) of the California Penal Code and section 1070 of the Evidence Code state that no warrant shall be issued for refusing to disclose a source or unpublished information. This was brought up by Gawker Media in its legal response to the search and seizure conducted on Friday.

    Here’s what Section 1070 says:

    1070. (a) A publisher, editor, reporter, or other person connected with or employed upon a newspaper, magazine, or other periodical publication, or by a press association or wire service, or any person who has been so connected or employed, cannot be adjudged in contempt by a judicial, legislative, administrative body, or any other body having the power to issue subpoenas, for refusing to disclose, in any proceeding as defined in Section 901, the source of any information procured while so connected or employed for publication in a newspaper, magazine or other periodical publication, or for refusing to disclose any unpublished information obtained or prepared in gathering, receiving or processing of information for communication to the public.

    (b) Nor can a radio or television news reporter or other person connected with or employed by a radio or television station, or any person who has been so connected or employed, be so adjudged in contempt for refusing to disclose the source of any information procured while so connected or employed for news or news commentary purposes on radio or television, or for refusing to disclose any unpublished information obtained or prepared in gathering, receiving or processing of information for communication to the public.

    (c) As used in this section, “unpublished information” includes information not disseminated to the public by the person from whom disclosure is sought, whether or not related information has been disseminated and includes, but is not limited to, all notes, outtakes, photographs, tapes or other data of whatever sort not itself disseminated to the public through a medium of communication, whether or not published information based upon or related to such material has been disseminated.

    Gawker has also pointed out that there is precedence that states that online journalists qualify under Section 1070.

    On the surface, Gawker seems to have a case. But given the nuances of law, it may not hold water.
    Does Gawker’s Defense Apply, Though?

    Gawker would like to frame the debate in the context of the shield law. However, as others have pointed out, it does not protect evidence related to the commission of a crime.

    This is where the legal issues get sticky. Was the raid conducted by California’s REACT Task Force — the Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer Team — illegal because it violated the shield law? Or was it legal because the shield law doesn’t protect this type of crime?

    It’s not even clear whether California is targeting Gizmodo or the person who sold the gadget blog the prototype iPhone. Even the police aren’t sure if the shield law applies in this case.

    Oh, and there’s another potential issue: Apple sits on the task force that raided Jason Chen’s home.
    Nobody Actually Knows How This Will Play Out

    Let’s be clear: I’m not a lawyer, so I can’t and won’t give a prediction as to which way the legal issues will go. However, I will talk about the potential outcomes of this case.

    It’s too early to say whether this will be a case that “defines” whether bloggers and online publications are indeed journalists and journalistic institutions. This case may only apply to a unique situation in which a felony was committed. It’s also possible that this case could define whether technology bloggers and online journalists should be afforded the same rights as traditional newspaper and print media journalists.

    Anyone who gives you a prediction on how they think the Apple-Gizmodo saga will play out and doesn’t have expertise in law is probably talking out of his or her ass. This is an issue that will be settled by lawyers and investigators, not journalists or technology experts, with the future of media potentially in the balance. We’re not sure what to think of that.


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