Genealogical relationships of Presidents of the United States

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Must. Resist. Bad. Joke...;)

Facinating discussion, Wibbs your like an encyclopedia of interesting facts and Mysterious its intriguing to hear your version of history too when its not being hounded out from you.

Feel guilty taking this off topic but here is the Bush/Obama connection, 11th cousins.
http://www.newenglandancestors.org/pdfs/obama_bush.pdf

I laughed out loud:D I literally re read it, and yes. so awfully worded..

I agree it was interesting. I liked wibbs stuffs too. I'm ok once I'm relaxed and people accept that I'm a human being you know and I'm not getting rocks thrown at me.:) I was nearly going to take this to feedback and see that we as adults can take it to 4 pages without lashing out at someone. It's estatic to see.

Over who knows the truth bla bla. It seems a lot of people are now growing up and learning self responsibility in their own research. I get so sick and tired of this science and education ****e at this rate, when one can learn so much more by getting off his/her behind and finding out for themselves. When people bring their ideas and thoughts to the board and we discuss them all, we all gravitate to the truth of what's been discussed. The rapport and comunication the takes fold. None of this can happen when we repeat the beliefs patterns we have been conditioned by our society and upbringing. A lot of people who fall victim to this often lash out at others for not following the pattern that we must answer to authority and our education backgrounds for answers. When we on this forum answer to ourselves.and everyone here takes responsibility by answer's to themselves in their own authority, debates would move in harmony and balance. Like it is now.

I will get back to this exciting thread tomorrows. I'm guilty of taking it off topic too. But it's good to say something nice here once in a while and that people are open to theories outside their "own box sized belief system"

Everyone here has information to share.

Darlughda wrote: »

Of course there is also the little issue of how the gaels came to colonize Ireland when there were already at least 5 races of people inhabiting this Island.

But in time with their superior weapons , and the introduction of writing and christianity as a centralizing political system the fragmented ways of the older tribes were suppressed.

This is where your illustrious Uí Neill ancestor came from. Every poet and bard in the country tried to claim that their Rí Tuath or one of the roughly 150 local kings, who kept them fed and watered, was a direct descendant of the Uí Neill. It was common in the early Christian days for monks and bards alike to create biblical links and royal lineages for these Gaels.

Good article on Irish ancestry/settlement.
http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/2006/10/mythsofbritishancestry/

Wibbs wrote: »

Well funny enough I do have a Huguenot ancestor. Apparently buried in the graveyard in stephens green. I'm a mongrel. Irish, Basque, French and possibly Spanish. May explain why I'm OTT, stubborn, occasionally rude, often drunk and melancholic. Mad basically. I blame the (many) parents

I can let you away with Atlantis, but that pun? :eek::D

I have Irish, Basque, French, Spanish on my mothers side. I have English, Irish, Norman, English on my fathers side.

I feel so privelaged I'm not inbred but still come from powerful bloodlines. I kick ass! My fathers parents come from Laois and Meath, so I managed to break free from my family dysfunctional past:D

You could well argue it was the French normans trying it. Not the English. They werethe ones who invaded Britain and thence Ireland and their interfactional squabbles blighted us and indeed the UK and France for centuries.

What do you mean trying it, I'm lost to where this point stems from an earliar point. Would you mind brushing up this again?

I have an obsession topic to annonce I want to find out where the Jesus of Nazereth bloodline went to after it came to France. Or I think it's that one big question everyone wants to know, where is the holy grail line and where did it go. Could it be that the Normans were the Jesus bloodline?. Also could it be the Jesus bloodline married the ruling elites of France(one theory) Mary Madgeline was also called the illuminator which is interesting. You always had the French going at it with England. The English crown is ruled by a tribe that is of dan or cain, which is not the true lineage of David. Even up to the founding of America you had France and the English going at it again. Over and over etc.

I will give my take on this I believe Jesus was not only just direct lineage of King David as which we all know. But also Nordic. He has the blue eye blond hair blood genetics that originally comes from Scandinavia. Scandinavia is also home to the Nordic or Ayran race. Some UFOlogists call this race the Pleadians and Sirians background. Hebrew 100percent Sirian lineage. The Israel connection is where all the races of pre bibical times met and it's home to the King David and Solomon bloodline. All the major continents of the known world met at Israel. Today Israel is at the centre stage of all what the world is fighting about. There is evidence to suggest most of the heirs royal line including the pharoahs of Egypt were at least lighter skinned and had some blonde haired. There is physical evidence for blonde haired mummies in Egypt.

So to tie it all in a nutshell despite what our history tells us, could it be that the invasion of Ireland and Englahd be tied to the fact that the Atlanteans who fled from here pre bibical times went to the Basque Medditerarian and Middle east wanted to gravitate back to the North western seabord of Europe again. And not the other way around.

Now where it get's complicated, is there is more than just one bloodline. There is the serpent bloodline, hybrid bloodline, the pure bloodline and others fighting for the real throne of King David. From my own research led me to believe that they are 12 universal races, and the Jesus bloodline holds the key to humanity.

Oh I'm glad I got that all out, it's all confusing I know. But I want to know where all this ties into and where it leads too. Even Hitler and other superpowers were obsessed with bringing back the super Ayran race. The British Royal family has been trying to wipe out and control the Irish for nearly a 1000 years. We can clearly see the British obession to remain in power and keep all the other bloodlines out of the equation. The Vatican has spent the last 2000 years butchering millions to find the Jesus of Nazereth bloodline. The crown of England is ruled by an imposter family. On and on.

Oh I think I'll stop. My brain is gonna have neuron overcharge.

Wibbs wrote: »

Only in much later paintings. There are references were Jesus is able to slip through a crowd unnoticed. Hard to do with blond hair in that region. Blonde was a rare colour in the Mediterranean basin. The ancient greeks didnt even have a specific word for it until later on. One reason they thought Alex the great was impressive was that he was blonde. Until the later Celtic invasions southward it was a very unusual hair colour. The gospels dont mention it either which seems surprising, given it would mark him out.

The bloodline thing is interesting. It doesnt seem to come up as a story until the early middle ages. Then a load of French kings were claiming it.

Of course since Jesus had four brothers and several sisters, his bloodline or that of his family have to be out there somewhere.

Magdalene is an interesting character and even more interesting as the church sought to photoshop her out of the story. Making her the "fallen woman" or whore. Neither of which she was. She's described as someone he cured of spirits. Nothing more. It worked though as most people when asked think she's the adultress he saved from stoning(though she was also called mary/miriam). That's a CT right there.

Well I would suspect Jesus had Blue eyes brown hair and was darker than a nordic because of been in Israel. I'm making the point there is many stories about the northern people called the Nazerenes and by other names of blonde/fair hair blue eyed. I don't believe in the Celtic history but they also get the same rap, blue eye blonde haired etc, most of Celtic history is fabricated, but some small percentage of it could be wrapped up to hide the real history.. I think The blonde hair/blue eye race is the Pleadian - Sirian - Atlans humonoids (branch alien races that lived in Atlantis) Which are us, our parent races. We are still they today. This would explain the fallen angels, or gods that came from the sky or the annunaki gods. The serpent race was a hybrid of reptilans and humans. It was a dark/sallow or pale white skinned, with green/hazel eyes, thin lips, strong jaw line, hairless bodies etc.. All races combined is what makes up homo sapiens. The Serpent race is meant to come from the Carpanitian mountains(can't remember the spelling)


It's funny that nazerene's colourates with Nazis. The Nazis wanted to recreate the blond hair blue eyed race. They were called the Aryan race. The pure race. Could be white blondes are most fun:D

Well there is something like 200 books taken out of the bible (if not more) and it talks more in depth about Jesus's and Madgelines story and true history of the world. The book of Enoch is worth a read. The modern bible is the reason all these wars are happening today. Same corruption and people running the planet since Yeshua was chased and his bloodline were murdered.

Jesus did have brothers and sisters, but they were only half brothers. Mary was and still is virgin mother. Joseph had 2/3 other siblings from previous relationships. (can't remember thier names) They are all still decendant from King David. But Mary has more royal blood and is direct decendant to King David. There are theories, that she was artificially impregnated, or God came down and impregnated her, or Joseph is not his biological father. I'm not sure which to beleive, but I don't think it really matters at this stage. Jesus had three children, 1 girl and two boys (from my own research)

I agree Mary Madgeline history must be worth some read, because I think she outlived Jesus and made a lot of history herself. The history is well covered up and I haven't got my hands on much of it. The gospel of Mary Madegline is on the internet, and that used to be in the bible, until King James re published the bible to his version.