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Trad music in pubs..ssssshhhh

  • 18-04-2010 01:27AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭


    Not for the first time was in a pub recently with a couple of fellas playing traditional irish music. Not caring for the ****e that it is I ignored it and kept on talking to my friends only to be met with hostile stares and plenty of ssshhhh. I was there with friends before these guys started up and while I appreciate that these guys want to be listened to the idea that everyone in the pub should have to shut the fcuk up while they play is beyond me.

    Anyone else been at the end of a sshhhh while a precious trad band play ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭consultech


    They're part of the entertainment; Would you do the same at a comedy gig?

    Actually, nevermind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭Nuggles


    They're a band in a pub.

    Everyone talks over music in the pub. Can't see why you wouldn't if it were a trad band.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 522 ✭✭✭KevinVonSpiel


    I usually flee as soon as I see any sign of the fuckers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    It depends where it is, a Gig like Vicar St, I have sussshhhed a few fcukers myself.

    Pub, then you're supposed to be talking.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Wor dey playin de ballads?

    Loike dat one about de time we blew up a postbox in Ballyvourney to teach de Brits a lesson. Ah be de hokey.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    It's happened to me before. If it's a session or whatever: fine, but not somebody just playing (or leading a sing-song) in a pub. I've told musicians (or friends of them) stuff along the lines of fuck off I didn't pay for a gig when shushed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    Great username for this topic, OP.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    After subjecting my American brother-in-law to that kind of establishment, I asked him what he thought of the music. He told me that no-one would get away with playing the same tune for two hours in an American bar.

    If the diddly-aye fans want to listen without the background chat, they should go to a feckin concert.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Embarrassing when this stuff starts being played. We're not gombeen idiots muttering about the Black & Tans anymore. Even worse when people who have no inclination to know any of this crap starts wailing about the rare 'oul times.

    We really have no sense of perspective. Trad should be banned. It's an embarrassing byproduct of our previous lack of culture.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 522 ✭✭✭KevinVonSpiel


    Trad banned.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Reminds me of the classic joke:

    Fellow walks into a pub in Belfast with a plastic bag under his arms.
    The bartender asks "What's that?"
    "Six pounds of semtex", he answers.
    "Thanks be to Jaysus; I thought it was a bodhrán!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I cringe when everyone is expected to shut up and watch someone moan an incredibly bleak Oirish song.

    Fùck off, I don't need you depressing me...................the drink does that on it's own! :pac:

    Anywho, I always skip out for fag when that shìte starts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭Pittens


    Can't see why you wouldn't if it were a trad band.

    Not amplified I suppose. That said, people go to pubs to talk. So f*ck em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Awful, awful sh1te, 40 verses, no hooks.
    Essentially jazz with a banjo, fuck that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    I quite enjoy the odd raucous trad session, but yeah, telling people, who have come to the pub to chat with their friends, to shut up is absolutely out of order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭lizardfudge


    Yeah... I've had this as well... although usually my conversation isn't suitible for pretty much any given situation, so I'm used to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭Griffen262


    Woooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...ok...this is my 3rd time tonight..im offf to bed, bye bye!!! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    you don't likey the music then fook off somewhere else. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Shssssshhhhhhh.:D I am a trad player. :rolleyes: so i will not go into explaining how many different jigs and reels there is in a song 2 hours long.

    needless to say me hands do be fooked.

    I could actually tell you the type of pub that shuts people up.... and your either new to the pub or you know this happens and are just ranting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭dermothickey


    If it's a Trad pub, that's the way it is, except it as that and enjoy the entertainment or go to a britney spears (pop) pub instead, Where people are encouraged to talk over the music as it's crap.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,885 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    I am a musician and I have played in many pubs and all I have to say on the matter is this.

    It's a pub. It's there to be talked in. So man the f%$k up and play your music and if you want people to be quiet and listen, go play in a proper venue for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭dermothickey


    In most instances it is the people in the pub who tell others to hush a bit, not the musicians playing who in most cases are very polite. As said if it's a Trad bar that's the way it is. If the person doesn't like Trad as he said in his original post why would he go in and disrupt it for others?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    Heckler wrote: »
    Not for the first time was in a pub recently with a couple of fellas playing traditional irish music. Not caring for the ****e that it is I ignored it and kept on talking to my friends only to be met with hostile stares and plenty of ssshhhh. I was there with friends before these guys started up and while I appreciate that these guys want to be listened to the idea that everyone in the pub should have to shut the fcuk up while they play is beyond me.

    Anyone else been at the end of a sshhhh while a precious trad band play ?

    sssshhhhhhhhh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,522 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    cloneslad wrote: »
    sssshhhhhhhhh

    Poor guy, he was just sitting in his living room eating his cornflakes and the travelling trad group burst into his home with pints and tabs and started practicing. Won't someone think of the breakfast eaters?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Confab wrote: »
    Embarrassing when this stuff starts being played. We're not gombeen idiots muttering about the Black & Tans anymore. Even worse when people who have no inclination to know any of this crap starts wailing about the rare 'oul times.

    We really have no sense of perspective. Trad should be banned. It's an embarrassing byproduct of our previous lack of culture.

    Talk about issues (and ignorance of the difference between a trad session and a folk session).

    Yeah, I'd rather have English soccer blaring on pub tvs (usually all of them in the one pub) every single night. That's so "cultured". So conducive to having a chat. I say the trad lads should get up, connect everything to microphones and blare the fuck out of that pub especially if it's a pub that has that tv on in the background every night intruding on conversations.

    If anything should be "banned" it's this modern "Oirish" pub, which is merely a Sky Sports outpost wrecking conversations in pubs across Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    If it's a Trad pub, that's the way it is, except it as that and enjoy the entertainment or go to a britney spears (pop) pub instead, Where people are encouraged to talk over the music as it's crap.

    Well said!


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This reminds me of a rock gig I paid into in Roisin Dubh one night.. The entire place was dead silent listening to them and it was packed. They weren't even an acoustic setup but for some reason, the masses decided to treat the night like they were in the cinema.. Class band but if I can't chat to a friend or a stranger, what's the point.
    I got told to shush while chatting to my friend in the middle of the crowd and I've never wanted to shout out "Fuk off ya pretentious prick" so much in my entire life and I ended up havin the craic in the smokin area instead.

    My mum killed trad music for me.. Every song sounds the same and I swear if I put the CD on repeat track, she'd never know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Heckler wrote: »
    Not for the first time was in a pub recently with a couple of fellas playing traditional irish music. Not caring for the ****e that it is I ignored it and kept on talking to my friends only to be met with hostile stares and plenty of ssshhhh. I was there with friends before these guys started up and while I appreciate that these guys want to be listened to the idea that everyone in the pub should have to shut the fcuk up while they play is beyond me.

    Anyone else been at the end of a sshhhh while a precious trad band play ?


    Did you go to the pub or did the traditional music? If it's a trad music pub that's just the way it is and you should just avoid it if you don't like it. I have to avoid most pubs any time I want to go out and have a quiet chat when there is a soccer match on. Similarly I know which pubs to go to when I want to hear some ceol. In fact, there is one place that I go to in Dublin regularly, An Góilín Traditional Singers' Club, where nobody but nobody speaks when singers are performing (without microphones, obviously). I would never go there if I wanted a chat. It's not their fault if I do. It's about respect. And cop-on. And respect. Oh, and respect.

    At least trad music adds something to Irish cultural life, something distinctive. I doubt there are many tourists who've come to Ireland to see the main "cultural" aspect of the new "traditional Irish pub": soccer matches blaring on all tvs every night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,104 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    Griffen262 wrote: »
    Woooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...ok...this is my 3rd time tonight..im offf to bed, bye bye!!! ;)

    Brilliant stuff and congrats on losing the virginity - You get better as you go along so this one should last a bit longer.


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  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Dionysus wrote: »
    At least trad music adds something to Irish cultural life, something distinctive. I doubt there are many tourists who've come to Ireland to see the main "cultural" aspect of the new "traditional Irish pub": soccer matches blaring on all tvs every night.

    I go to pubs two or three times a week and it's rare that there's soccer matches blaring.. It's been said a few times in this thread so far and I call shenanigans.


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