Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

Mitch Connor · 16-04-2010 03:53PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

I agree with points 1-3.

Point 4 I'm so sure about. £90m is a hell of a lot of money. I'd imagine all united fans are fed up Real Madid during transfer windows.

but the 90 million is short term.

By selling Rooney, United announce to the world that they are, in fact, a selling club. They sell their only really world class player, the most marketable star attraction, they sell the star of United. All that instantly reduces the marketability of United, instantly reduces the money United can command in any commercial dealings.

Also, if the 90million went straight off the debt, then the team has no chance on the pitch, and without on pitch success the club would be completely screwed. If only half of it was put off the debt, you have still reduced the competitiveness of the team on the pitch, without making all that significant a dent in the interest - just one years interest repayments.

I just don't see a good reason to sell Rooney, it would negatively effect the club far too much for it to be a good business or football decision.

Iago · 16-04-2010 03:59PM

personally I think Pigheads timing was impeccable and should be respected as such.

The 20000th post is all yours

redout · 16-04-2010 04:11PM

Paddy Power now paying out on Chelsea to win the league

Headshot · 16-04-2010 04:13PM

redout wrote: »

Paddy Power now paying out on Chelsea to win the league

good advertising

redout · 16-04-2010 04:19PM

Headshot wrote: »

good advertising

They sent me an email which said that then underneath they have a pic of United and "Still plenty to play for"

Headshot · 16-04-2010 08:16PM

I see Tosic has scored again tonight

he's on a good runs it seems

9 games (5 starts + 4 subs appearances) 3 goals and 1 assist

DM_7 · 16-04-2010 08:21PM

Headshot wrote: »

I see Tosic has scored again tonight

he's on a good runs it seems

9 games (5 starts + 4 subs appearances) 3 games and 1 assist

I don't get why he was never involved in the first team picture at United.

Looking forward to tomorrows game now, I thought I would miss it. I need a good Manchester Derby.

Headshot · 16-04-2010 08:27PM

DM-ICE wrote: »

I don't get why he was never involved in the first team picture at United.

Looking forward to tomorrows game now, I thought I would miss it. I need a good Manchester Derby.

not sure tbh, I look forward to him showing his stuff during the WC, he always seems to play good stuff for serbia

@ vanbis

im a bit pissed off because my bets arent going well at late ( bad night), so I reckon hargo will get time tomorrow (my luck is running out)

dor83 · 16-04-2010 10:00PM

Highlights from the Koln game tonight in which Tosic scored both goals

Mitch Connor · 16-04-2010 10:03PM

two great goals there

dor83 · 16-04-2010 10:09PM

Yeah, he done well with the first from a tight angle and it was very nice play and a good finish for the second. I'm still not sure if he will get much of a chance in Utd's first team next season though.

SK1979 · 16-04-2010 10:13PM

Actually watching the Cologne match now on ESPN. Tosic is playing better than I ever saw him for United. He looks superb.

Reckon he'll be back at the club next year or let go?

dor83 · 16-04-2010 10:19PM

SK1979 wrote: »

Actually watching the Cologne match now on ESPN. Tosic is playing better than I ever saw him for United. He looks superb.

Sorry if you were trying to avoid the result and I ruined it by posting that video, I didn't realise it was on.

SK1979 wrote: »

Reckon he'll be back at the club next year or let go?

I'm not sure at the moment, Obertan and Nani would be ahead of him for the left side at the moment, I suppose it will depend on how he does at the world cup and whether Utd. get a satisfactory offer.

SK1979 · 16-04-2010 10:22PM

dor83 wrote: »

Sorry if you were trying to avoid the result and I ruined it by posting that video, I didn't realise it was on.

No probs at all man. Had checked score already on Livescores and just conveniently came on. He scored early too so that made watching it easier.

Good point about the World Cup though, can be a great shop window if SAF doesn't feel like he can make it at United.

Headshot · 16-04-2010 10:34PM

dor83 wrote: »

Highlights from the Koln game tonight in which Tosic scored both goals

SK1979 wrote: »

Actually watching the Cologne match now on ESPN. Tosic is playing better than I ever saw him for United. He looks superb.

Reckon he'll be back at the club next year or let go?

tbf we hardly ever saw him in the 1st team
concerning him back to utd next season, Koln dont have an option to buy so that's a good sign and regarding the players ahead of him imo he should be ahead of obertan. tosic brings alot more to the table like set pieces

btw can anyone tell me what position was he playing in tonight's game ?

CR 7 · 16-04-2010 10:37PM

Headshot wrote: »

tbf we hardly ever saw him in the 1st team
concerning him back to utd next season, Koln dont have an option to buy so that's a good sign and regarding the players ahead of him imo he should be ahead of obertan. tosic brings alot more to the table like set pieces

btw can anyone tell me what position was he playing in tonight's game ?

According to redcafe, they do have an option to buy, but are unlikely to be able to afford him.

Think he was playing right wing, his preferred position.

Headshot · 16-04-2010 10:38PM

Park Ji Sung wrote: »

According to redcafe, they do have an option to buy, but are unlikely to be able to afford him.

Think he was playing right wing, his preferred position.

according a koln fan they dont

who you going to believe Park, halo wearing headshot or bloody redcafe scoundrels

CR 7 · 16-04-2010 11:11PM

Headshot wrote: »

according a koln fan they dont

who you going to believe Park, halo wearing headshot or bloody redcafe scoundrels

Well I did somehow just get banned from there, without posting for a day or 2, so that leaves only one option: My own imagination. I'll get back to you when I've played out a likely scenario in my head.

Mr.Nice Guy · 17-04-2010 02:09AM

Was watching this on ESPN Classic on Friday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfVr1OE8ny0

What a great match. I remember Tyler's line well. "And coming in behind him was ROY KEANE!"

redout · 17-04-2010 10:44AM

Berbatov admits failings

Dimitar Berbatov admits that he could have contributed more to Manchester United this season, and insists he wants to stay at Old Trafford.

Reports are rife that the £30million man will be sold this summer as Sir Alex Ferguson looks to move him on.

Berbatov signed in 2008 from Tottenham - but despite hitting double figures in both campaigns with the club, he has failed to recapture his Spurs form with United.

The Bulgarian, though, is determined to prove his worth.

"People have not have seen the real Berbatov this season. I wish I could have done more," he told the Sun.

"At Spurs I scored more goals with less problems - and now at United it is very difficult for me.

"But I am calm about my future.

"The rumours surrounding me don't affect me.

"I have a deal and nobody has told me that I do not enter into plans for next season.

"My relationship with the manager is normal, like any other professional in the squad.

"I am here because he wanted me, this is very important. I work every day to perfect my game and to play at weekends.

"But it is not easy to offer the maximum without playing more minutes.

"At Tottenham I played with a different system in comparison with United.

"So it's impossible to compare my work. And I am not worried by the critics.

"In football to be a forward is hard because people analyse errors more than successes.

"Wayne has had a sensational season and scored 34 goals and I think that we are compatible playing alongside each other.

"But if the coach decides to play with only one forward I understand that Wayne Rooney is first choice."

Second title
Berbatov is hoping he can claim his second title with United.

"My dream is to triumph at Manchester United and to win another Premier League title. After recent results it is true that Chelsea are closer than us," he said.

"But we want to fight to the very last minute.

"Until it is mathematically impossible we shall battle the Blues all the way.

"Perhaps the key to our season was the two matches against Chelsea.

"We didn't get a victory and that's the difference in the table."

He is also looking forward to Saturday's derby clash with Manchester City.

"A derby is even more important in Manchester given the passion of the supporters," he explained.

"Those three points are crucial for our morale and position in the table. A draw is of no interest to either team.

"To beat City at Eastlands would confirm we are the best team in this city - and that is very important."

Sky Sports

flahavaj · 17-04-2010 10:56AM

At least he doesn't whinge about playing second fiddle to Rooney, unlike a certain handsome Argie.

L'prof · 17-04-2010 11:19AM

flahavaj wrote: »

At least he doesn't whinge about playing second fiddle to Rooney, unlike a certain handsome Argie.

In fairness though Tevez has been well worth his transfer fee, has Berbatov? I for one could never understand bringing Berbatov in at the expense of having to let Tevez go but, I guess they are different types of players.

flahavaj · 17-04-2010 11:24AM

jasonorr wrote: »

In fairness though Tevez has been well worth his transfer fee, has Berbatov? I for one could never understand bringing Berbatov in at the expense of having to let Tevez go but, I guess they are different types of players.

I don't think Berba has justified his fee, no. He hasn't been as bad as you would think if you read some of the stuff people say on here and there are reasons such as the system which go some way to explaining it. But for a club record 30 million he should indeed be doing way more.

The fact that he at least realises he is very much second in line to Rooney and accepts that fact is at least some small consolation.

L'prof · 17-04-2010 11:32AM

flahavaj wrote: »

I don't think Berba has justified his fee, no. He hasn't been as bad as you would think if you read some of the stuff people say on here and there are reasons such as the system which go some way to explaining it. But for a club record 30 million he should indeed be doing way more.

The fact that he at least realises he is very much second in line to Rooney and accepts that fact is at least some small consolation.

That's fair enough. Would you prefer Tevez to still be at the club and not have bought Berbatov at all? He wouldn't be banging them in like he is at City, but I think he'd start most games just behind Rooney (did he play out wide much?) and absolutely work his socks off. I loved Tevez when he was at United, probably one of the only United players I've liked for a long time!

flahavaj · 17-04-2010 11:36AM

jasonorr wrote: »

That's fair enough. Would you prefer Tevez to still be at the club and not have bought Berbatov at all? He wouldn't be banging them in like he is at City, but I think he'd start most games just behind Rooney (did he play out wide much?) and absolutely work his socks off. I loved Tevez when he was at United, probably one of the only United players I've liked for a long time!

I loved Tevez when he played for United and think he's an amazing player. But theres simply no place for him in the team in the current formation Fergie employs. So he'd have been stuck on the bench for long stretches of the season again, which, unlike Berba, he isn't happy to put up with.

limpdd · 17-04-2010 12:04PM

Again no hargo, saf is taking the piss saying he's gonna be in the squad at every press conference

flahavaj · 17-04-2010 12:07PM

limpdd wrote: »

Again no hargo, saf is taking the piss saying he's gonna be in the squad at every press conference

He doesn't have to be on the bench to be in the squad.

herbieflowers · 17-04-2010 12:25PM

flahavaj wrote: »

I loved Tevez when he played for United and think he's an amazing player. But theres simply no place for him in the team in the current formation Fergie employs. So he'd have been stuck on the bench for long stretches of the season again, which, unlike Berba, he isn't happy to put up with.

In his first season he played up front with Rooney - much to a lot of people's surprise - and the tow were devastating. Obviously trying to accommodate Ronaldo, and bringing in Berbatov, meant that Tevez was going to be marginalised.

Still and all you can see for yourself what kind of impact Tevez can have when he's given regualr football.

flahavaj · 17-04-2010 12:32PM

herbieflowers wrote: »

In his first season he played up front with Rooney - much to a lot of people's surprise - and the tow were devastating. Obviously trying to accommodate Ronaldo, and bringing in Berbatov, meant that Tevez was going to be marginalised.

Still and all you can see for yourself what kind of impact Tevez can have when he's given regualr football.

Of course, hes been brilliant for City. But as I said if he was still at United he'd have been stuck on the bench. he simply doesn't fit into their tactics at the moment and if he's not happy to play second fiddle then he was right to move.

herbieflowers · 17-04-2010 12:36PM

flahavaj wrote: »

Of course, hes been brilliant for City. But as I said if he was still at United he'd have been stuck on the bench. he simply doesn't fit into their tactics at the moment and if he's not happy to play second fiddle then he was right to move.

Oh absolutely, I agree. Still feel that Fergie could've used a bit of foresight though. He probably knew Ronaldo was going to leave, that Rooney would occupy a more central role, why not sign Tevez and revert to a 4-4-2 again? Even with the signing of Valencia and the way the team is set up a lot of the time (especially in non-"big" games) is 4-4-2 with conventional wingers.

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