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Pennys 'paedo' padded bras

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  • #32
    WalterMitty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭WalterMitty


    I doubt a paedo sees much difference between a child in a bikini or one in a standard swimsuit. You see kids on beach allowed run naked in the summer sure, will the sun want that banned now?
    I think the bikini's are tasteless but the story reminds me of that Brass Eye show.
    Quote from WIki
    The show caused a furore among sections of the British tabloid press. The Daily Star printed an article decrying Morris and the show, apparently unaware of the piece's ironic and hypocritical juxtaposition with a separate article about the then 15-year-old singer Charlotte Church's breasts under the headline "She's a big girl now". [5][6] Similarly, and also with no hint of irony, the Daily Mail featured pictures of Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie, who were 13 and 11 at the time respectively, in their bikinis next to a headline describing Brass Eye as "Unspeakably Sick".[6] Defenders of the show argued that the media reaction to the show reinforced its satire of the media's hysteria and hypocrisy on the subject of paedophilia.[6] This episode has been shown 3 times even though controversy was caused each time. This episode of the show is widely regarded as the most popular, with many groups and pages being dedicated to different segments of the episode.


  • #33
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    wolfpawnat wrote: »
    When I was a 6 year old I adored my Jeans, "Rock Roads" and a jumper, to this day my favourite clothes are Jeans and Hoodie. What you put a child in when they are 5 is what they will see as acceptable for a lot of their lives!!!

    Hence all the frumps in jeans and hoodies in Ireland.

    :pac:


  • #34
    Domscard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Domscard


    Deleted User wrote: »
    to wear a badded bra

    Is that like a Freudian slip? :)


  • #35
    TheZohanS
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    They should hire undercover female midget cops to snare paedos with these bikinis...


  • #36
    NothingMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    I disagree with the padded bras for pre teens and the playboy clothes, but not because of the "Sicko paedos" or even the non sick paedos :confused:.

    At that age you already are starting to worry about whether your brand of school bag is expensive enough or you have the up to date nikes (or whatever they wear now). Adding how sexy you look on top of that is too much and it's way too young to be worrying about developing boobs or weight issues etc...

    My carefree childhood lasted well up til I was 12, then the hormones kicked in. Promoting this image at 7 is stealing years of carefree childhood times away.... to a small extent anyway.


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  • #37
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wolfpawnat wrote: »
    Ok I may come under fire for this, but here is my opinion regardless, do you know who is to blame for this................. the mums. I am sorry but a 2-3 year old girl is not capible of the thought pattern necessary to say to themselves "I LOVE that bikini and I have to have it!!!!" It is mum who picks it up and thinks "Hmmm (enter name) will look so cute in this!"

    Can't see how anyone could attack you over that.

    It's totally true. If they weren't being bought, they wouldn't be in the shops. I just think it's mad that anyone would actually buy them for their kids. But they do.


  • #38
    OutlawPete
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    we'llallhavetea wrote: »
    its not the paedos i'm worried about tbh.

    its the fact that kids are becoming sexual too young. i don't want my daughter to have to worry about that stuff for as long as possible :)

    Ah, I get that point, I was just thinking of it from the "paedo" point of view, clothes are a non-issue.

    I think kids worring about their weight is sign of the times for sure.


  • #39
    bronte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Ahem.....

    Good Grief! :eek:


  • #40
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Domscard wrote: »
    Is that like a Freudian slip? :)

    maybe, but it doesn't make any sense the way I've typed it!


  • #41
    wolfpawnat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭wolfpawnat


    pickarooney wrote: »
    Hence all the frumps in jeans and hoodies in Ireland.

    :pac:


    But damn I still look good in them:D

    Sure a nice pair of Skinnys and a nice not too loose fitting hoodie is nicer than a skirt half way to your tonsils and a top that is covering no clevage!!!!!!


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  • #42
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    WalterMitty wrote: »
    I think the bikini's are tasteless but the story reminds me of that Brass Eye show.

    Actually, just on the TV satire of this stuff.

    French and Saunders had a sketch where girls were dressed as the Spice Girls with fake boobs and it was banned in the UK.

    You can't even find it on YouTube.


  • #43
    wolfpawnat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭wolfpawnat


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Can't see how anyone could attack you over that.

    Some people will not accept the blame for their own actions (ie buying the clothes for their kids)

    [QUOTE=It's totally true. If they weren't being bought, they wouldn't be in the shops. I just think it's mad that anyone would actually buy them for their kids. But they do.[/QUOTE]

    Exactly, no consumers=no product, ordinary business studies junior cert would teach you that!!!!!! :)


  • #44
    ibarelycare
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Seen yesterday's Irish Sun Headline which was "Pennys Selling Sicko Paedo Bras".

    Yesterdays Primark Front Page - Irish Sun not online.

    It went on to sensationalize the story and I thought no more of it.

    Now today it would seem that Pennys / Primark have caved and pulled the line in these clothes for kids.


    Source

    I don't have kids, but this all seems to be over the top.

    I mean, it would seem to be that paedos sexually attracted to prepubescent kids, so why would dressing them as adults interest them.

    If anything, would this not make them less child like and so make them less interested?

    I agree that some of the tops I have seen with slogans are over the top but scantly clad is just closer to naked and nakedness should not (although it is) be inherently associated with sexuality.

    What's your opinions on these clothes for kids?
    #

    I agree with this.

    And, not meaning to play devil's advocate here, but I saw those bikinis, and they're not really padded. They just have a bit of an insert, the same as you get on women's bikinis. They're there for extra support and to hide nip-ons I guess, so I suppose they're not necessary for children, but from what I could see, they weren't there to enhance the childrens' chests.


  • #45
    bazmaiden
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    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Ah, I get that point, I was just thinking of it from the "paedo" point of view, clothes are a non-issue.

    as usual Pete


    but seriously its gotta be the parents to blame in this situation, i doubt kids care about padded bras


  • #46
    Teasey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Teasey


    I think we have two seperate issues here. To say that "Paedos" would be more likely to prey on children wearing these items is akin to saying that a rape victim was "asking for it" if she was wearing a short skirt when she was attacked. Simply a sensationalist headline designed purposely to sell more papers

    I do think that girls are developing at a younger age. I am involved with a youth dance troupe and I have had to mention to a number of mums of girls as young as ten that their daughters may need a little "support" while training and dancing. However, I have also seen things that really upset me, like a 6 year old wearing tracksuit bottoms with "Bootilicious" written on the bum and 12 year olds with full sets of acrylic nails and highlighted hair in head to toe Playboy gear

    Companies will only continue to produce what sells - and they have been pushing the boundaries of the teen/tween market to younger and younger audiences for years. However, the onus is on the parents, as the adults in these situations, to decide what is appropriate and to pass on these morals to their children

    If nobody bought them, nobody would make them....


  • #47
    speedboatchase
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    Remarkable that this was actually front-page news on a few papers yesterday, seems like anywhere you can shove the word "PAEDOS!" in will sell papers :rolleyes: Yes the product was crazily inappropriate but hello, kids (10yo onwards) these days are already wearing thongs and skin-tight "jeggings" plastered with make up, listening to lyrics like "come here rude boy can you get it up" - who is buying all this for them? Penneys were introducing as they (sadly enough) recognise it would have some demand. And I don't understand the "PAEDO BRA" idea - a paedophile will not give two s***s if a kid is wearing a padded bra and the removal of them from the shelves will have zero effect

    Parents these days seem to just cave in to the demands of their children to make sure their darlings can fit in and won't worry about peer pressure. I'm only 24 but when into 6th year you could already see a massive generational gap - the 1st years were the cheekiest feckers ever! Parents want to be "cool" and want their kids to be cool and not be bullied so this over-sexualisation of adolescence will continue, and begin younger. And it's not just over-sexualisation of young girls, why are young boys the majority of players if you boot up an online game of the M-rated Modern Warfare 2? Parents don't want to make hard choices, and today's society ensures they don't have to shoulder any burden whilst we can transfer it onto some media boogeyman

    Instead of throwing out the old paedophile moral panic once again can the media and society ever just cop on and realise it is up to the parents the lions share of accountability in all of this?


  • #48
    Truley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Truley


    ibarelycare wrote: »
    #

    I agree with this.

    And, not meaning to play devil's advocate here, but I saw those bikinis, and they're not really padded. They just have a bit of an insert, the same as you get on women's bikinis. They're there for extra support and to hide nip-ons I guess, so I suppose they're not necessary for children, but from what I could see, they weren't there to enhance the childrens' chests.

    That's what I was thinking, everyone knows padded bras serve more of a functional purpose than just making one's chest look bigger. And believe it or not many girls are starting to develop breasts at age nine/ten. Consequently they have the same needs regarding supportive swimwear as any older woman. I don't exactly know what the deal is with the bikinis but I have a strong feeling it has more to do with what I said above than simply 'clothes to make kids look sexy and attract siko peados'. I've already discussed this in the Ladies' Lounge.


  • #49
    Duggy747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I think we should be worried when Boots introduce The Pill for 7 year olds! :pac:


  • #50
    kowloon
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Well it depends on what the sick fúck is into. Some are into babies, some are into toddlers some are into "not quite legal".

    Depends on the exact type of nut job you're dealing with tbh :)

    I'm almost sure a paedophile is classified as being attracted to pre-pubescent children, someone on these forums had the correct term for those attracted to older teenagers and the likes. I don't know if the distinction is made in law.


  • #51
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Who the feck buys this stuff for their daughters?

    Personally, I'd ban the parents from ever having any more children, use it as a suitability to pro create test.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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  • #52
    force majeure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭force majeure


    The movie 'Little miss sunshine' comes to mind here and as for padded bra's their far better ways at looking after children that muppeting on about their underwear.


  • #53
    Hagar
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    K-9 wrote: »
    Who the feck buys this stuff for their daughters?
    Mothers, no father would buy that crap. Mothers are sexualizing their own kids. Then they will look for someone else to blame when it all goes wrong later.:mad:


  • #54
    force majeure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭force majeure


    Hagar wrote: »
    Mothers, no father would buy that crap. Mothers are sexualizing their own kids. Then they will look for someone else to blame when it all goes wrong later.:mad:

    Dads would be too gutless to buy that stuff that much I know.
    Like I mean its ruddy odd enough walking through the girls isle in Dunnes not to start snooping in the undies section. :o:o


  • #55
    kowloon
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    force majeure wrote: »
    Dads would be too gutless to buy that stuff that much I know.
    Like I mean its ruddy odd enough walking through the girls isle in Dunnes not to start snooping in the undies section. :o:o

    I'd rather walk around the edges of the shop than walk a few feet through the kids section. Seems so dodgy to be near the place.


  • #56
    kowloon
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    Hagar wrote: »
    Mothers, no father would buy that crap. Mothers are sexualizing their own kids. Then they will look for someone else to blame when it all goes wrong later.:mad:

    Nothing worse than those playboy bunny logos on childrens clothes, maybe those tracksuits with sexy written on them.


  • #57
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Had to laugh at that moronic Sun story all right. Plus, I saw these in Dunnes months ago - and they had "age 10" on them. So it's not new and it was a slow news day.

    Bikinis for little girls were available in the 80s when I was small. The three sisters next door all had them - I thought they looked as weird then as I do now.

    To me - and this is only my personal view - it looks like department stores cashing in on the little girl desire to look like a woman. Many of us dressed up in our mothers' clothing and tried to put on her make-up when we were little etc.


  • #58
    OutlawPete
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    Dudess wrote: »
    Many of us dressed up in our mothers' clothing and tried to put on her make-up when we were little etc.

    You were in the Mini-Pops :eek:

    :p

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKcmHwjfCbg


  • #59
    Hagar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,786 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Dudess wrote: »
    Many of us dressed up in our mothers' clothing and tried to put on her make-up when we were little etc.
    But some of us will never admit that...

    Shít, where's the delete post button...


  • #60
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Damn I envied those Mini Pops kids!

    Absolutely no way would that be allowed now - it's kinda ironic: on the one hand, every situation a child is put in is scrutinised for evidence of paedo-attraction; on the other: Britney, Christina, GaGa et al are on kids' TV with their asses hanging out.

    Oh yeah there was controversy over the little girl singing the line in the Sheena Easton song: "Night time is the right time, we make love"... :eek:


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  • #61
    LD 50
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    phasers wrote: »
    Padded bras are better actually cos you can't see the nips on a cold day

    I had one when I was 12, they felt more supportive.

    I always thought you were a guy. Either that or a very confused 12 year old. :confused:


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