Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

Headshot wrote: »

backing up the article your wrote i see

how is it risky, we know how good Lloris is, going to be one of the best keepers in the world soon (if he isnt already)

buffon went to juve a few years ago for over 20m, Lloris should be priced in the 20 plus bracket (maybe 25m)

I dont understand your thinking tbh JPA

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Anyway, keepers don't go for a large fees, that's how it is. £15 million is very realistic. Much more than that, or more than £20 million would be very surprising. Why do I think it's risky? Because goalkeepers are a position where transfers can tend to flop, being transferred to United could affect him pressure wise, just speculating BTW.

JPA wrote: »

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Anyway, keepers don't go for a large fees, that's how it is. £15 million is very realistic. Much more than that, or more than £20 million would be very surprising. Why do I think it's risky? Because goalkeepers are a position where transfers can tend to flop, being transferred to United could affect him pressure wise, just speculating BTW.

have a look at what arch wrote

15m for Lloris would be the biggest bargain since vidic and evra arrived, when is the last time a a goal keeper with the abilities of Lloris flopped when they moved ? regarding pressure, he's France no 1 keeper, I think he can handle pressure.

JPA wrote: »

Well IMO no team will pay more than £20 million for him. Simply because he is a keeper. And of course if he signs VDS is immediately retired.

im heading off but before that ill leave ya with this

a brilliant keeper will earn your team a numerous points during the season, I bet Arsenal fans wished they had a top keeper, it could of saved them tonight and maybe during the CL match with barca

Benzema went for 35m approx so no way will Lyon realistically be asking for more than 20m for a goalkeeper unless City come into the equation which would then free up Given...too be cudicini mark II!! Buffon went for 20m cause he was by far the best around back then

Skud wrote: »

i dont think lloris is the best - he played well versus ireland but against bordeaux in the cl quarters, despite one class save, he looked average at best. Good shot stopper but poor at crosses... familar?

Oh btw everyone is saying we need midfielders etc but what about cleverly? i know he is still young but he seems to be impressing alot of people

I wouldnt be overly excited about Lloris myself. Would like Neuer.

As regards Cleverly we need to bring in a proven quality midfielder - this is the thing that worries me most as Sir Alex has a habit of buying unknowns at times. We dont have time to buy an unknown and nurture him - we need proven quality who can come in and do the job from the off.

redout wrote: »

You just quoted yourself and asked a question

yes, I'm 100% convinced that Carrick should go
I'm also 100% unsure who'd want him

not so confusing really!

First Post on the United Issue, its probably been discussed several times, but I think United need a bit of bite in midfield and a creator - Poor scholes in on his last legs, Fletcher againt his has been playing the best out of the midfielders, my dissapointments have to be Carrick and Berbatov, Carrick has been giving the ball away to cheaply in the past 10 games and even more, with Berbatov, he has shown a bit more of an attitude but he needs someone up there with him even that he's so lazy, we need a striker who is quick for one and has a great scoring record, united have the money so Aguera or Villa would do nicely,

Im not sure if Vidic will stay, I think smalling will be great player but not next season for us anyway, i can see him playing limited games.

So 4/5 signings needed I reckon

adrian280582 wrote: »

I just have bad feeling about city game have feeling Tevez will have blinder.

If we do win though I think Spurs can get us result against Chelsea. Then pressure would really be on the Blues.

So your saying we lose and Chelsea lose and the pressure is on the blues.

Makes no sense at all. We wud still be 4 points behind and one less game to play.

We have to better Chelsea's result on Saturday to have a slim chance.

And as Liverpools CL's hopes have faded there is a possibility they will fall down and die against Chelsea to prevent Utd winning the league.

SlickRic wrote: »

a fit Hargreaves and/or a new CM, and you're almost there.

maybe a wide player. Giggs has proved everyone wrong many times, but he might be coming to the end now. (famous last words ) but Nani looks like he's getting there, and Obertan is getting better, if that rocket in the reserves during the week was anything to go by!

maybe a GK to replace VDS? but that's more in a season's time i reckon, unless he capitulates out of nowhere.

apart from that, the back 4 is fine. Vidic won't go anywhere. the stuff about him is similar to the stuff about Torres for us. journalists speculating about anything that'll get a rise from supporters.

as has been said by the more sensible posters in here already, overhaul is not needed yet, just an bit of extra support.

As I have said many times on here, I don't think we are that far off.

I am happy with VDS for another year.

back 4 and backup is fine as long as no one leaves

The problems with the team all stem from the central midfield, with only Fletcher being worth his place most of the time. I would like us to sign 2 quality CM players. A defensive minded player to take some of the responsibility off Fletcher and help him dominate the midfield battles, and a creative attacking minded player to provide proper support and passes to the wingers and striker. Our problem, for me, is always the midfield not doing enough battling and not doing well enough with the ball when we do have it. Two top midfielders to partner Fletcher would improve every aspect of the team, and that is where I would focus.

A left sided winger and a keeper (top keeper) would be nice additions, but 2 top central midfielders would make a massive improvement in the side.

hargreaves could, potentially be that defensive minded player, but I don't trust him, and hope Fergie doesn't plan on trusting him next season. A grand player (hopefully) to have as back up, but i'd worry if he was being pencilled in as a first team regular.

SlickRic wrote: »

and so it begins...

if Allardyce didn't roll over and take one for Ferguson, then I think all other conspiracy theories can stop right now.

was chatting about this with two liverpool supporting mates this morning.

One said no way would Liverpool try to help United win the league, thus getting to 19. Also said he reckon Torres could be 'rested' for that game with an eye on the EL games.

The other said that there is bad blood between the Chelsea and Liverpool sets, and that Liverpool will want to prove themselves.

Going back to relevant history, Liverpool beat Blackburn on the final day of the season in 94/95 - which could have easily handed United the title, had we not missed 208billion changes to win at West Ham.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

had we not missed 208billion changes to win at West Ham.

ah Andy Cole.

a genuinely wonderful striker, but I'm convinced that day had him forever labelled as the guy who 'needed 5 chances to score 1'.

funny for me, but i can only imagine the amount of Utd fists that went through walls that afternoon.

keane2097 wrote: »

Does anyone think a fit Hargreaves would allow the likes of Carrick and Gibson to perform to a suitably high level?

I'm just thinking that it's really since Hargreaves has been out that Carrick's level of performance has nosedived.

He was quite competent two seasons ago...

We used to defend a lot deeper in the big games and Carrick had another CM sitting beside him (usually Scholes) so his diabolical close control wasn't exposed as much.

Remember Carrick and Hargreaves in the centre after Scholes went off in the CL final? As a pair they had a complete inability to hold onto the ball and so we ended up inviting on attack after attack.

Imo Hargreaves, Fletcher plus some new creative cm might work well but the only way Carrick can be useful in big games is if we defend deep and concentrate on firing the ball forward to a few talented attackers.