Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

flahavaj · 14-04-2010 04:38PM

Daysha wrote: »

Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but Oliver Kay of the Times says that, according to a (Barca based) Spanish newspaper, Real Madrid will let Benzema go in the summer for a cut-price £17 million.

If this is true we should snap him up in a second, but I have my doubts Real would part with him so early.

God, sign him up in a heartbeat for that kind of money.

Young players not doing well in their first season at Real is no indication of talent.

Look at the likes of Sneijder who has blosomed since he left.

Vanbis · 14-04-2010 04:40PM

flahavaj wrote: »

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Look at the likes of Sneijder who has blosomed since he left.

Sneijder was always top draw, even better then Van der vaart.

If the story is true then i doubt we will be only club interested at that price.

keane2097 · 14-04-2010 04:41PM

Vanbis wrote: »

Sneijder was always top draw, even better then Van der vaart.

If the story is true then i doubt we will be only club interested at that price.

We'd probably be the biggest though...

Smegball · 14-04-2010 04:44PM

If we got Benzema for less than 20m it would be an absolute steal :O

Would also leave good money to invest in the midfield

Vanbis · 14-04-2010 04:48PM

keane2097 wrote: »

We'd probably be the biggest though...

I can see the likes of AC Milan, Inter Milan, Juventus, Man City and Chelsea all having an interest.

flahavaj · 14-04-2010 04:50PM

It would also certainly leave Berbatov surplus to requirements or necessitate a move to 4-4-2 which would mean at least one top notch midfielder.

I'm warming more and more to Everton's Fellaini to be honest. Still only 21 and an absolute monster. Would be perfect beside Fletcher in a 4-4-2.

VDS

O' Shea

Rio

Vidic

Evra

Val

Fletch

Fellaini---Nani

Rooney

Benzema

I like this team, looks a lot more robust than in previous years. The central midfield looks nice and solid with Fellaini sitting but with v good distribution amd Fletcher going box-to-box which I believe to be his best role.

It also means keeping Berba a back up striker but now playing a formation he would fit into far better. You have Carrick/Ando/Hargo as CM back up.

justbringit89 · 14-04-2010 04:53PM

Vanbis wrote: »

I can see the likes of AC Milan, Inter Milan, Juventus, Man City and Chelsea all having an interest.

TBH I reckon Chelsea Will try & Buy A Striker, Anelka & Drogba are getting very old, Drog is 32 & Nicky is 31. They need a Good Young Striker. A lot of rumors that Ancelotti will bring Argureo from Milan

Vanbis · 14-04-2010 04:54PM

justbringit89 wrote: »

TBH I reckon Chelsea Will try & Buy A Striker, Anelka & Drogba are getting very old, Drog is 32 & Nicky is 31. They need a Good Young Striker. A lot of rumors that Ancelotti will bring Argureo from Milan Athletico Madrid

I fixed that for you

I heard those rumours, not sure Roman will splash the cash this summer.

justbringit89 · 14-04-2010 04:57PM

Vanbis wrote: »

I fixed that for you

I heard those rumours, not sure Roman will splash the chash this summer.

Ha Cheers, getting Mixed up there!! Now that Im Taking about Milan....What About Pato?? He's a Man Ancelotti Actually brought to Milan...He'd be happy to have him back:D

Vanbis · 14-04-2010 05:03PM

justbringit89 wrote: »

Ha Cheers, getting Mixed up there!! Now that Im Taking about Milan....What About Pato?? He's a Man Ancelotti Actually brought to Milan...He'd be happy to have him back:D

As someone has already mentioned Drogba and Anelka are getting on at 32/31, Anelka has still not agreed a new contract. I'm sure Ancelotti would like either Pato or Aguero but they wont come cheap.

I just hope we sign a least two quality players in the summer that we all agree will help push us forward to the next level. I'm sure and i hope SAF knows who he wants. He signed both Vidic and Evra out of the blue and did the same with Anderson and Nani. What this space.

keane2097 · 14-04-2010 05:14PM

Vanbis wrote: »

I can see the likes of AC Milan, Inter Milan, Juventus, Man City and Chelsea all having an interest.

keane2097 wrote: »

We'd probably be the biggest though...

What's the problem?

Spazdarn · 14-04-2010 05:19PM

I suppose the problem is no matter how big we are, a lot of those players won't want to play in England with the crap weather, and they get taxed a lot more too...

We need a striker for sure, and a replacement for the frankly toss Michael Carrick... Fletcher is great, the wingers have done very well too and the rest seems solid so, it's not the crisis everyone is making out

UnitedIrishman · 14-04-2010 05:35PM

If we go out an sign a top centre midfielder (or one who genuinely has the potential to be) and a second midfielder/striker, I'd be happy enough with that given the amount of youngsters that are on the brink of fighting for spots. We need quality, not quantity at this stage also.

In defence we're sorted. We have a load of backup and barring a titanic sized injury list like last December, we don't need anyone in after Smalling.

Up front, Rooney will be starting 90% of games on his own so any striker who comes in has to be able/willing to bide his time OR come in and force Fergie to change his style/formation through his performances on the pitch.

We have bags of youngsters/reserves that will be looking to perhaps make an impact next season or year after - Cleverly, Obertan, James, Pogba, Tosic to name a few.

Really think we're not far far away from where we should be and all it'll take is another signing or two and a clearout of some players in order to get us back to the top. We're only 4 points off with 4 games left when so many predicted a horrible season for us after Ronaldo's departure.

14-04-2010 05:45PM

why the hell did Fergie pull out of signing Ljajic

UnitedIrishman · 14-04-2010 05:51PM

Just saw this on SSN website in Martin Tyler's blog (perhaps looking for any signs of a comeback)..

http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,25212,12038_6091627,00.html

Hi Martin. Despite our draw at Blackburn and Chelsea's win over Bolton I still haven't given up hope of United clinching the title! We need Chelsea to drop four points from their last four games to give us a chance, though. How many times have league leaders dropped that many at this stage of the season? Tom (Manchester United fan)

MARTIN SAYS: Thanks for your question, Tom. You'll be pleased to hear league leaders dropping four or more points from their last four games is a common occurrence. In seven of the 17 completed Premier League seasons the table-toppers with four games to play have dropped four or more points from their remaining fixtures (but of course, the league was often already decided by then).

Then I continued reading.. and it got a bit worse for us..

MARTIN SAYS: Furthermore - and this is not good news for you, Tom - every team that has topped the Premier League with four games to go (as Chelsea are doing now) has gone on to win the title.

The most points dropped in the final four games of a Premier League campaign is nine, when Manchester United lost their three final matches against Derby, Southampton and Tottenham in 2000/2001 (the last time United lost three in a row). We should point out, though, that United were 14 points clear at the top of the table with four games to go, so could be forgiven for taking their foot off the gas.

Ah well, I'll keep the faith until it's in their hands.

Pro. F · 14-04-2010 05:55PM

flahavaj wrote: »

It would also certainly leave Berbatov surplus to requirements or necessitate a move to 4-4-2 which would mean at least one top notch midfielder.

I'm warming more and more to Everton's Fellaini to be honest. Still only 21 and an absolute monster. Would be perfect beside Fletcher in a 4-4-2.
VDS

O' Shea
Rio
Vidic
Evra

Val
Fletch
Fellaini---Nani
Rooney
Benzema

I like this team, looks a lot more robust than in previous years. The central midfield looks nice and solid with Fellaini sitting but with v good distribution amd Fletcher going box-to-box which I believe to be his best role.

It also means keeping Berba a back up striker but now playing a formation he would fit into far better. You have Carrick/Ando/Hargo as CM back up.

Yeah Fellaini is good call for a CM but i'm not sure that he and fletch as a pair would be creative enough. Maybe yes maybe no.

Benzema at 17m would be a steal. That price would surely end up being higher though with a few teams interested.

Johner · 14-04-2010 06:02PM

Fellaini would cost at least 20 million if not more.

14-04-2010 06:04PM

Johner wrote: »

Fellaini would cost at least 20 million if not more.

It's his old mates at Standard that should be bought, well Defour anyway, not that thug Witsel...

flahavaj · 14-04-2010 06:06PM

Johner wrote: »

Fellaini would cost at least 20 million if not more.

Any decent midfielder who'd improve United's CM will cost that, especially if United are bidding for him.

UnitedIrishman · 14-04-2010 06:10PM

Johner wrote: »

Fellaini would cost at least 20 million if not more.

Especially considering he went to Everton for 12m rising to 15m, and he's only 22.

Pro. F · 14-04-2010 06:23PM

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Especially considering he went to Everton for 12m rising to 15m, and he's only 22.

ah tits, i'd forgotten he cost so much. Moyes is hardly going to sell him for only 5ish million profit so that would mean he'd probably cost around 25m now. Maybe we could tap him up and get him all unsettled and agitating for the move.

flahavaj · 14-04-2010 06:24PM

Pro. F wrote: »

ah tits, i'd forgotten he cost so much. Moyes is hardly going to sell him for only 5ish million profit so that would mean he'd probably cost around 25m now. Maybe we could tap him up and get him all unsettled and agitating for the move.

He's well worth 25 million anyway. Think of it as an investment in a player who could be the enforcer of the club's midfield for the next decade.

3hn2givr7mx1sc · 14-04-2010 06:33PM

Pro. F wrote: »

ah tits, i'd forgotten he cost so much. Moyes is hardly going to sell him for only 5ish million profit so that would mean he'd probably cost around 25m now. Maybe we could tap him up and get him all unsettled and agitating for the move.

Since when are we Real Madrid?

PHB · 14-04-2010 06:57PM

I'd love to see Joe Cole at United, would be a great cheap move.

After that, Ireland would be great, funded by the Carrick sale. Net spend zero close to but a significant improvement in the team.

ShiverinEskimo · 14-04-2010 07:06PM

PHB wrote: »

I'd love to see Joe Cole at United, would be a great cheap move.

It might be a cheap move in the sense of the actual transfer but I can't see why he would leave Chelsea because they wouldn't meet his wages demands and join United for less.

A hundred-grand-a-week footballer he is not.

And after his shocking miss last night from about 2 yards you can see why Chelsea are reluctant.

Pro. F · 14-04-2010 07:07PM

flahavaj wrote: »

He's well worth 25 million anyway. Think of it as an investment in a player who could be the enforcer of the club's midfield for the next decade.

I'd agree he's worth that sort of money. But the question would be - do we want to spend that money on an enforcer? Personally I think our biggest priority is a creative CM. Then my second priority would be an enforcer like Fellaini.

The good thing about Fellaini imo is that he holds onto the ball well and can pass it around and score the odd goal. So he is a well rounded and tallented enforcer type. But is Fletch/Fellaini the CM pair we want? If we were also to buy another more creative CM as well then I'd be happy, as we'd have good options for our 451. But if we bought just Fellaini, or Fellaini as the only new CM, then I think we might be missing out on the creativity that we need.

flahavaj · 14-04-2010 07:11PM

Pro. F wrote: »

I'd agree he's worth that sort of money. But the question would be - do we want to spend that money on an enforcer? Personally I think our biggest priority is a creative CM. Then my second priority would be an enforcer like Fellaini.

The good thing about Fellaini imo is that he holds onto the ball well and can pass it around and score the odd goal. So he is a well rounded and tallented enforcer type. But is Fletch/Fellaini the CM pair we want? If we were also to buy another more creative CM as well then I'd be happy, as we'd have good options for our 451. But if we bought just Fellaini, or Fellaini as the only new CM, then I think we might be missing out on the creativity that we need.

My suggestion of Fellaini was only really made on the basis that Benzema was the other major signing of the Summer, indicating a move to 4-4-2.

If United aren't planning a move for Benzema then that indicates they're going to stay with one up front, in which case the three man midfield would need a creative player as well.

But in a 4-4-2 IMO you need two hard working players who are both kinda all rounders, hence the Fletch/Fellaini pair. You can't really afford ther luxury of a creative player in a 4-4-2 like Gourcuff I don't think.

So it really depends on the formation going forward.

Either way I really like big Fellaini and I was shocked when I read he was so young a few months ago.

Headshot · 14-04-2010 07:18PM

PHB wrote: »

I'd love to see Joe Cole at United, would be a great cheap move.

After that, Ireland would be great, funded by the Carrick sale. Net spend zero close to but a significant improvement in the team.

I cant get my head around this

why would you want a player that's past his best, over 100 grand a week and injury prone as they come

madness

Pro. F · 14-04-2010 07:21PM

flahavaj wrote: »

My suggestion of Fellaini was only really made on the basis that Benzema was the other major signing of the Summer, indicating a move to 4-4-2.

If United aren't planning a move for Benzema then that indicates they're going to stay with one up front, in ehich case the three man midfield would need a creative player as well.

But in a 4-4-2 IMO you need tow hard working layers who are both kinda all rounders, hence the Fletch/Fellaini pair. You can't really afford teh luxury of a creative player in a 4-4-2 like Gourcuff I don't think.

So it really depends on the formation going forward.

Either way I really like big Fellaini and i was shcoked when I read he was so young a few months ago.

I'd see it differently. Yes in a 442 you need two hard working CMs but even so, imo, you can't get by without someone creative in there. It's hard to find players who can fill that role imo. Maybe Fellaini is creative enough, i just don't think so. But sure it's only opinions. Either way I wouldn't complain if we did get him.

Mitch Connor · 14-04-2010 07:26PM

Banega would be a good signing for a 442 formation, to play alongside Fletcher.

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