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Best internet browser?

  • 05-04-2010 4:47pm
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    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,716 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Lately im getting windows explorer crashes and i think but am not fully sure i tracked it back to firefox.
    Lots of users on the firefox forums sem to be having issues.
    I uninstalled and went with Opera and got a blue screen error with it.
    Im currently using IE after reinstalling windows and really not sure which to use.
    Just wondering what most users are using?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭sheehy898


    Dcully wrote: »
    Lately im getting windows explorer crashes and i think but am not fully sure i tracked it back to firefox.
    Lots of users on the firefox forums sem to be having issues.
    I uninstalled and went with Opera and got a blue screen error with it.
    Im currently using IE after reinstalling windows and really not sure which to use.
    Just wondering what most users are using?

    I had a similar problem with firefox but just reinstalled and it worked fine again.But google chrome is a very good substitute if the problem persists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭henryporter


    Chrome for ease of use and simplicity. I do use firefox but only on a ubuntu operating system. Haven't used Internet Explorer in ages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    I use chrome primarily on all my machines. It's quick, it's simple and it's stable. That's all i want. Although i do use firefox the odd time for some of the addons that have yet to be ported to chrome. Haven't used IE in ages.


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭nehpets10


    Another vote for chrome..


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,716 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Thanks a lot folks, just installed it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    Chrome for ease of use and simplicity. I do use firefox but only on a ubuntu operating system. Haven't used Internet Explorer in ages.

    Chrome is even nicer on linux, its even got its own 64bit native version in linux :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,905 ✭✭✭Noxin


    Moved from Firefox to Chrome and love it.

    Over the last few months I've found FF to have alot of memory leaks. Got very annoying.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,716 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    I must say im quite liking chrome, thanks again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Had a few problems with Firefox recently, think it was caused by plugin. Better now, but still some issues. Had been using it as my favourite browser.... and it still is.. But any more hassle and I'm using Chrome.. Just dont like the way Chrome sets out the tabs and top menus.. But other than that I like it a lot.

    Vote for Firefox, tenatively, for the moment. With Chrome very close second.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭edson


    have to say i love Chrome....
    but i just heard from a friend that they tend to track websites n such, even if you clear your browsing history/cookies etc, is that true?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I only use IE when I absolutely have to some microsoft stuff won't work with Chrome.


    The only extension I use with it is the mouse gestures one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 Viscaria


    Opera is my favourite really fast then chrome.

    oops sorry didnt see that it didnt work for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭Kevster


    I've been using Internet Explorer since version 2.0. I have never had any major issues with it, and I don't think I'll ever change.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,497 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    FF3.6.3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    Chrome


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭nehpets10


    edson wrote: »
    have to say i love Chrome....
    but i just heard from a friend that they tend to track websites n such, even if you clear your browsing history/cookies etc, is that true?

    I don't think there is any proof to that. I think it stems from the fact that when you type something into the omni bar it has to go back to Google to get web suggestions. So if I type in "Smells like ", there is a drop down list. First link is to wikipedia, second is a search for "Smells like teen spirit lyrics" and third is "Smells like teen spirit tabs". These aren't from my internet history. They are suggestions from Googles search engine.

    So in that sense, yes information is being sent back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    nehpets10 wrote: »
    I don't think there is any proof to that. I think it stems from the fact that when you type something into the omni bar it has to go back to Google to get web suggestions. So if I type in "Smells like ", there is a drop down list. First link is to wikipedia, second is a search for "Smells like teen spirit lyrics" and third is "Smells like teen spirit tabs". These aren't from my internet history. They are suggestions from Googles search engine.

    So in that sense, yes information is being sent back.

    I think chrome takes the suggestions from your bookmarks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭Frank Spencer


    What's the story with Google not having their toolbar add-on available for their own browser??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    What's the story with Google not having their toolbar add-on available for their own browser??

    You do realise that all a toolbar does is redirect all Your traffic through Google.com so they can harvest the information on what links You've clicked, basically they spy on You. You add a big jump to their servers in the USA to every link you click slowing Your browsing. Toolbars are spyware and are evil, they don't do anything else

    In Chrome Google search is built in, just type it in the address bar and it will search Google, You don't need a toolbar to add a function thats built in and by installing the browser You've already agreed to share information with them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭Frank Spencer


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    You do realise that all a toolbar does is redirect all Your traffic through Google.com so they can harvest the information on what links You've clicked, basically they spy on You. You add a big jump to their servers in the USA to every link you click slowing Your browsing. Toolbars are spyware and are evil, they don't do anything else

    In Chrome Google search is built in, just type it in the address bar and it will search Google, You don't need a toolbar to add a function thats built in and by installing the browser You've already agreed to share information with them


    I just find it handy for Google bookmarks to be honest but I'll be sure to splash holy water on the screen each and every time I use it from now on!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Chrome for me... I used to swear by firefox, but it just seems to get more bloated and less responsive with every update.
    Love how quickly chrome opens, and the shifty looking guy in the corner when you open an incognito window:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭nehpets10


    bryaner wrote: »
    I think chrome takes the suggestions from your bookmarks

    http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=95440


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭suppafly


    I use Google chrome at work now. I still have firefox at home as there are a number add-ons that I use that chrome doesn't have yet. When they get ported i think i'll move over too cuz as Tman said, firefox is getting very bloated and slow and seems to crash fairly often now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I've noticed that divx crashes chrome on me allot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 disley


    Try them all and see for yourself. I did and I use Chrome


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭dazzerb


    Chrome

    ...and do not be afraid of the beta Chrome version - works great. (click the "Try the latest BETA version »" link)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭probe


    Chrome is spyware. It has a serial number. It reports back all your browsing activity to G. If you use Chrome, G owns you.

    Flash is spyware too (flash cookies). But with Firefox (warts and all) you can use the BetterPrivacy addon to zap nasty persistent flash cookies the millisecond they are put on your system. Even websites that don't use flash for appearances (ie glitzy pictures and videos) use flash to implant cookies that you can't delete in your browser to spy on you.

    G's agenda is to know every detail about everyone on the planet. And sell the information about you to advertisers. Some of those "advertisers" have evil motives. eg Malware-ists are buying targeted google adwords and similar to take people to websites that will install their nastyware on victim's PCs. Malware is becoming very targeted. Even G was targeted by Chinese malware that was just designed to get into G's systems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Dorsanty


    I'll accept the comments about Firefox getting bloated, but the crashing no. Perception is a great thing, you like shiny Chrome browser and so bad mouth the others with something no one can really prove. Leave it as Chrome is faster.

    Link shows mozilla crash report events, showing Firefox 3.6 running at 30% less crashes on average.

    http://lifehacker.com/5513592/firefox-36-crashes-30-less-than-35

    Once Firefox gives out of process plugins to the public I reckon this will drop dramatically as well. That is due in the next bloated version ;) I do accept that other browsers are better than Firefox in various ways but I'm a big user of keyword search in Firefox/Mozilla browsers and so that'll keep me sticking with the platform for a while yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    probe wrote: »
    Chrome is spyware. It has a serial number. It reports back all your browsing activity to G. If you use Chrome, G owns you.

    Flash is spyware too (flash cookies). But with Firefox (warts and all) you can use the BetterPrivacy addon to zap nasty persistent flash cookies the millisecond they are put on your system. Even websites that don't use flash for appearances (ie glitzy pictures and videos) use flash to implant cookies that you can't delete in your browser to spy on you.

    G's agenda is to know every detail about everyone on the planet. And sell the information about you to advertisers. Some of those "advertisers" have evil motives. eg Malware-ists are buying targeted google adwords and similar to take people to websites that will install their nastyware on victim's PCs. Malware is becoming very targeted. Even G was targeted by Chinese malware that was just designed to get into G's systems.
    Or, or maybe they're just trying to make useful software that can customize itself to the individual user and getting big businesses to pay for it instead of you and me.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭Mike_Hunt


    +1 for Chrome. Great feature in Chrome is the ability to sync bookmarks across all the PC's you use it on e.g. home, work, laptop/netbook. Check the tools (spanner) menu.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Dorsanty


    Mike_Hunt wrote: »
    +1 for Chrome. Great feature in Chrome is the ability to sync bookmarks across all the PC's you use it on e.g. home, work, laptop/netbook. Check the tools (spanner) menu.

    A feature which is available in some form for Opera (which also syncs to your opera mini browser by the way for mobile access) and Firefox (It's called Weave). So not really a winner for Chrome over others. The service is cool though. It's like a backup for your browser which sync's at regular intervals without having to think about it. I personally use the Weave service with Firefox and plan to implement a standalone server version of the service so that I'm not sending all my data to Mozilla.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    How about SRWares' Iron? http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php

    I use it sometimes but the only problem is that extensions won't work in Private Browsing.....ahem....! But Firefox are taking a leaf out of Chromes book and they're splitting the processes between the browser and the extensions in their next update (3.6.4), as far as I know!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,421 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    I think you'll never going to get everyone to agree on which is best. Each has their own strengths and weaknesses. While I find chrome nice and fast, some firefox plugins are more important to me, maxthon has the best tab handling for me, explorer is still the windows standard which is required for certain things


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭coldfire1x


    Dorsanty wrote: »
    A feature which is available in some form for Opera (which also syncs to your opera mini browser by the way for mobile access) and Firefox (It's called Weave). So not really a winner for Chrome over others. The service is cool though. It's like a backup for your browser which sync's at regular intervals without having to think about it. I personally use the Weave service with Firefox and plan to implement a standalone server version of the service so that I'm not sending all my data to Mozilla.

    I use Xmarks - available for both Firefox and IE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Mike_Hunt wrote: »
    +1 for Chrome. Great feature in Chrome is the ability to sync bookmarks across all the PC's you use it on e.g. home, work, laptop/netbook. Check the tools (spanner) menu.
    The only problem then is all your personal bookmarks on your home pc are on your work computer too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Mike_Hunt wrote: »
    +1 for Chrome. Great feature in Chrome is the ability to sync bookmarks across all the PC's you use it on e.g. home, work, laptop/netbook. Check the tools (spanner) menu.

    Not a new feature, I've had this for 2 years on Firefox by using Xmarks (formerly called Foxmarks)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭probe


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Or, or maybe they're just trying to make useful software that can customize itself to the individual user and getting big businesses to pay for it instead of you and me.
    They don't need to identify each user individually and track their movements to achieve that objective. What customization is available in Chrome that the user couldn't set themselves in preferences?

    Yet another breach of dataprivacy rights that the people paid to enforce privacy legislation are doing nothing about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Dorsanty


    coldfire1x wrote: »
    I use Xmarks - available for both Firefox and IE.
    and Safari and Chrome according to their blurb these days.

    The reason I mention Weave is that it also sync's preferences, open tabs, installed search engines, history and the all important bookmark meta data like visit count etc. This is needed to get the same 'awesome bar' experience across any two browsers so the drop down results when you start typing something will be the same no matter which one you use. Also it's cool to have visited a site in any of the sync'd browsers and to be able to search your history for it on another one. That's enough from me on Mozilla/Weave evangelism, it's just my new shiny thing that I use right now. I'm sure it will wear off.

    Edit : on the main topic I also agree that there is no best browser in all situations, just one that best fits a person's needs for the tasks they do. It looks like IE9 will be a good effort from MS too, so the whole thing is wide open and it will be interesting to see what it all looks like 5 years from now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    probe wrote: »
    They don't need to identify each user individually and track their movements to achieve that objective. What customization is available in Chrome that the user couldn't set themselves in preferences?
    The point is you don't have to do anything yourself, the program adapts to you personally, that's why it has to know you individually and what you do so it can learn what you like. I don't see how it could do those things without watching what your up to. Remember it's a computer watching you not google staff, the computer doesn't care what you do, true it could be used to do nasty things but that's what laws are for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    ScumLord wrote: »
    The point is you don't have to do anything yourself, the program adapts to you personally, that's why it has to know you individually and what you do so it can learn what you like. I don't see how it could do those things without watching what your up to. Remember it's a computer watching you not google staff, the computer doesn't care what you do, true it could be used to do nasty things but that's what laws are for.

    What Probe is giving out about (and rightly so) is that Google Chrome contacts Google.com with the details of every single link You click, which they store.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    What Probe is giving out about (and rightly so) is that Google Chrome contacts Google.com with the details of every single link You click, which they store.
    I know that but I'm not against it. I trust google with my info it's the governments that might want to lock me up that I don't trust. Everything google do makes the internet a better place for the average user, they're not out to take advantage and like they say themselves if they do spread your info they lose they're user base as the competition for top search engine is out there now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭nehpets10


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    What Probe is giving out about (and rightly so) is that Google Chrome contacts Google.com with the details of every single link You click, which they store.

    I can't find any information about this. What makes you think they do that?


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