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Weimaraners good or bad??

  • 12-04-2010 12:27AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭


    I have little experience with hunting dogs and am on the look out for a good versatille hunting dog. It will mainely be used for hunting pigeons and pheasant. I'd appreciate your advice. thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    the problem with them is there been bread for show ,if you can find one from good hunting stock maybe,i have yet to a good one .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Slav


    If your are lucky to find a good breeder with working lines Weims then go for it. If you get a good hunter it can be as good as a German Pointer.

    However if metallic paint is not a must then go for a German or English Pointer - they are way easier to find from a good working parents. It's more predictable that you get a good versatile hunting dog at the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭quicko


    i was considering a weimeraner last year and after talking to quite a few people i settled on a GWP. the general opinion was that most of the weims now are more show orientated than working although i have since spoken to several people that say there are plenty of working dogs around, personally i havent seen them.

    A friends brother is very much into gundogs and he attended an international trial a few years ago, there was a german team running weims and he said that the standard was not impressive at this point i thought if the german team are not turning out great dogs what chance have i.

    I have a young GWP 15m and she is showing good potential, sto work with and very versatile , i would have no problems reccomending this breed on my limited experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭doyle61


    i hunt with them and find them very good. when youve hunted with a good one youll be hooked and wont hear a bad word said against them but they arent "mainstream" so hense youll find a lot of people slating them (and ild love to know if theyve actually hunted with one). there was a very good litter a couple of weeks ago but they went within a week. ask the weimaraner ass if they know of any good litters coming up soon or uk is a good option ( i got one of mine in scotland). stay away from germany..........can be a bit of a streak in them ones;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭The Big Fella


    Thanks for the advice but I cant see myself looking abroad. I might just go with a pointer or spaniel. Thanks anyway;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭welsummer


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    What's Good About 'Em,
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    By Michele Welton. Copyright © 2000-2010

    The high-energy Weimaraner, bred to hunt all day, needs an athletic owner who can meet his demanding exercise needs: running, biking, hiking, jogging, field work.
    Too much confinement leads to hyperactivity and destructiveness, as does being left alone too much. A bored Weimaraner will bark up a storm, demolish your home and yard, even attempt to escape in search of adventure.
    Reserved with strangers, dominant with other dogs, predatory toward small animals such as cats and rabbits, most Weimaraners need an owner who can provide leadership, socialization, and training beyond the beginner level. Though this breed is headstrong, in the right hands he is capable of learning and doing virtually anything.
    Indeed, a well-matched owner will find the Weimaraner a loyal, aristocratic gentleman of great presence and character.
    A novice with little time and space will find him a rambunctious bully, difficult to control.

    If you want a dog who...
    • Is large, powerful, and tautly-muscled, a true athlete bred to hunt all day
    • Has a sleek, carefree coat
    • Is unusual-looking, with a ghostly gray/silver coat and eerie light eyes
    • Is packed with energy and thrives on vigorous exercise and athletic activities
    • In the right hands, is a loyal, aristocratic gentleman of great presence and character
    • Is watchful with strangers, so makes a keen watchdog (with a booming bark)
    A Weimaraner may be right for you.

    If you don't want to deal with...
    • Vigorous exercise requirements
    • Rowdiness and exuberant jumping, especially when young or not exercised enough
    • "Separation anxiety" (massive destructiveness and barking) when left alone too much
    • Suspiciousness or skittishness toward strangers when not socialized enough
    • Aggression toward other animals
    • A strong-willed mind of his own, requiring a confident owner who can take charge
    • Excessive barking when bored
    A Weimaraner may not be right for you.

    If I were considering buying or adopting a Weimaraner
    My major concerns would be:
    1. Providing enough exercise and mental stimulation. Weimaraners MUST have regular opportunities to vent their energy and do interesting things. Otherwise they will become rambunctious and bored -- which they usually express by barking and massive destructive chewing. Bored Weimaraners are famous for chewing through drywall, ripping the stuffing out of sofas, and turning your yard into a moonscape of giant craters.
      If you simply want a pet for your family, and don't have the time or inclination to take your dog running or hiking or biking, or to get involved in hunting, or advanced obedience, or tracking, or agility (obstacle course), or a similar canine activity, I do not recommend this breed. Trying to suppress their "hardwired" desire to run and work, without providing alternate outlets for their high energy level, can be difficult.
    2. Bounciness. Young Weimaraners (up to about two years old) romp and jump with great vigor, and things can go flying, including people.
      If you have small children, or if you or anyone who lives with you is elderly or infirm, I do not recommend Weimaraner puppies. The temptation to bounce and play roughly is just too strong in many young Weimaraners.
    3. Separation anxiety. More than most other breeds, Weimaraners need a great deal of companionship and do not like being left alone for more than a few hours. They tend to express their unhappiness through destructive chewing and barking. If you work all day, this is not the breed for you.
    4. Animal aggression. Many Weimaraners are dominant or aggressive toward other dogs of the same sex. Many have strong instincts to chase and seize cats and other fleeing creatures, including livestock and wildlife such as deer. If anything goes wrong in the breeding, socializing, training, handling, or management of this breed, it is capable of seriously injuring or killing other animals.
    5. The strong temperament. The best Weimaraners are versatile working dogs, capable of learning a great deal, but they have an independent mind of their own and are not pushovers to raise and train. They are easily distracted by exciting sights, sounds, and scents. They can be manipulative, and some are willful, obstinate, and dominant (they want to be the boss) and will make you prove that you can make them do things. You must show them, through absolute consistency, that you mean what you say.
      To teach your Weimaraner to listen to you, "Respect Training" is mandatory. My Weimaraner Training Page discusses the program you need.
    6. Barking. Weimaraners are often too quick to sound the alarm at every new sight and sound. You have to be equally quick to stop them. If you work all day and have close neighbors, Weimaraners are not a good choice for you. For the same reason, Weimaraners should NEVER be left outside in your yard, unsupervised.
    7. Housebreaking. The pointing breeds can be a bit slow to pick this up. Expect several months of consistent crate training.
    8. Health problems. Weimaraners are extremely prone to a life-threatening digestive syndrome called bloat. Joint and bone problems, eye diseases, bleeding disorders, and cancer also make this breed risky in the health department.
      To keep this breed healthy, I strongly recommend following all of the advice on my Weimaraner Health Page.

    cover_TYD120.jpg To learn more about training Weimaraners to be calm and well-behaved, consider my dog training book,
    Teach Your Dog 100 English Words.

    It's a unique Vocabulary and Respect Training Program that will make your Weimaraner the smartest, most well-behaved companion you've ever had.

    Teaches your dog to listen to you, to pay attention to you, and to do whatever you ask him to do.



    cover_HTB120.jpg My dog buying guide, How To Buy a Good Dog, will teach you everything you need to know about finding a healthy Weimaraner puppy. Health problems have become so widespread in dogs today that this book is required reading for ANYONE who is thinking of getting a purebred, crossbred, or mixed breed dog.


    If you'd like to consult with me personally about whether the Weimaraner might be a good dog breed for your family, I offer a Dog Breed Consulting Service.

    cover_11T120.jpg Once you have your Weimaraner home, you need to KEEP him healthy -- or if he's having any current health problems, you need to get him back on the road to good health.

    My dog health care book, 11 Things You Must Do Right To Keep Your Dog Healthy and Happy is the book you need.

    Raise your dog the right way and you will be helping him live a longer, healthier life while avoiding health problems and unnecessary veterinary expenses.



    Please consider adopting an ADULT Weimaraner...
    When you're acquiring a Weimaraner PUPPY, you're acquiring potential -- what he one day will be. So "typical breed characteristics" are very important.
    But when you acquire an adult dog, you're acquiring what he already IS and you can decide whether he is the right dog for you based on that reality. There are plenty of adult Weimaraners who have already proven themselves NOT to have negative characteristics that are "typical" for their breed. If you find such an adult dog, don't let "typical breed negatives" worry you. Just be happy that you found an atypical individual -- and enjoy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 mayoman24


    i have one they are an excellent all round hunting dog and a great pet they have loads of engery and go all day get one from a hunting back round and you will not regret it[/QUOTE]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭doyle61


    welsummer wrote: »
    ypplogo.gifThe Truth About Purebred DogsThe Truth About Crossbred DogsThe Truth About Mixed Breed DogsDog Health
    and Feeding
    11 Things You Must Do Right To Keep Your Dog Healthy and Happy180 Dog Breed ReviewsWhich Dog Breed is Best For You?Personal ConsultationsDog Training and BehaviorTeach Your Dog
    100 English Words

    FAQ | Site Map | About Us

    <DIV id=outer><DIV id=inner>Weimaraners: the most honest dog breed review you'll ever find about Weimaraner temperament, personality, and behavior. <DIV id=content>You are here: Home » 180 Dog Breeds » Weimaraners » Weimaraner Temperament
    weimaranersf2.jpg
    Weimaraner Temperament
    What's Good About 'Em,
    What's Bad About 'Em

    By Michele Welton. Copyright © 2000-2010

    The high-energy Weimaraner, bred to hunt all day, needs an athletic owner who can meet his demanding exercise needs: running, biking, hiking, jogging, field work.
    Too much confinement leads to hyperactivity and destructiveness, as does being left alone too much. A bored Weimaraner will bark up a storm, demolish your home and yard, even attempt to escape in search of adventure.
    Reserved with strangers, dominant with other dogs, predatory toward small animals such as cats and rabbits, most Weimaraners need an owner who can provide leadership, socialization, and training beyond the beginner level. Though this breed is headstrong, in the right hands he is capable of learning and doing virtually anything.
    Indeed, a well-matched owner will find the Weimaraner a loyal, aristocratic gentleman of great presence and character.
    A novice with little time and space will find him a rambunctious bully, difficult to control.


    If you want a dog who...
    • Is large, powerful, and tautly-muscled, a true athlete bred to hunt all day
    • Has a sleek, carefree coat
    • Is unusual-looking, with a ghostly gray/silver coat and eerie light eyes
    • Is packed with energy and thrives on vigorous exercise and athletic activities
    • In the right hands, is a loyal, aristocratic gentleman of great presence and character
    • Is watchful with strangers, so makes a keen watchdog (with a booming bark)
    A Weimaraner may be right for you.


    If you don't want to deal with...
    • Vigorous exercise requirements
    • Rowdiness and exuberant jumping, especially when young or not exercised enough
    • "Separation anxiety" (massive destructiveness and barking) when left alone too much
    • Suspiciousness or skittishness toward strangers when not socialized enough
    • Aggression toward other animals
    • A strong-willed mind of his own, requiring a confident owner who can take charge
    • Excessive barking when bored
    A Weimaraner may not be right for you.

    If I were considering buying or adopting a Weimaraner

    My major concerns would be:
    1. Providing enough exercise and mental stimulation. Weimaraners MUST have regular opportunities to vent their energy and do interesting things. Otherwise they will become rambunctious and bored -- which they usually express by barking and massive destructive chewing. Bored Weimaraners are famous for chewing through drywall, ripping the stuffing out of sofas, and turning your yard into a moonscape of giant craters.
      If you simply want a pet for your family, and don't have the time or inclination to take your dog running or hiking or biking, or to get involved in hunting, or advanced obedience, or tracking, or agility (obstacle course), or a similar canine activity, I do not recommend this breed. Trying to suppress their "hardwired" desire to run and work, without providing alternate outlets for their high energy level, can be difficult.
    2. Bounciness. Young Weimaraners (up to about two years old) romp and jump with great vigor, and things can go flying, including people.
      If you have small children, or if you or anyone who lives with you is elderly or infirm, I do not recommend Weimaraner puppies. The temptation to bounce and play roughly is just too strong in many young Weimaraners.
    3. Separation anxiety. More than most other breeds, Weimaraners need a great deal of companionship and do not like being left alone for more than a few hours. They tend to express their unhappiness through destructive chewing and barking. If you work all day, this is not the breed for you.
    4. Animal aggression. Many Weimaraners are dominant or aggressive toward other dogs of the same sex. Many have strong instincts to chase and seize cats and other fleeing creatures, including livestock and wildlife such as deer. If anything goes wrong in the breeding, socializing, training, handling, or management of this breed, it is capable of seriously injuring or killing other animals.
    5. The strong temperament. The best Weimaraners are versatile working dogs, capable of learning a great deal, but they have an independent mind of their own and are not pushovers to raise and train. They are easily distracted by exciting sights, sounds, and scents. They can be manipulative, and some are willful, obstinate, and dominant (they want to be the boss) and will make you prove that you can make them do things. You must show them, through absolute consistency, that you mean what you say.
      To teach your Weimaraner to listen to you, "Respect Training" is mandatory. My Weimaraner Training Page discusses the program you need.
    6. Barking. Weimaraners are often too quick to sound the alarm at every new sight and sound. You have to be equally quick to stop them. If you work all day and have close neighbors, Weimaraners are not a good choice for you. For the same reason, Weimaraners should NEVER be left outside in your yard, unsupervised.
    7. Housebreaking. The pointing breeds can be a bit slow to pick this up. Expect several months of consistent crate training.
    8. Health problems. Weimaraners are extremely prone to a life-threatening digestive syndrome called bloat. Joint and bone problems, eye diseases, bleeding disorders, and cancer also make this breed risky in the health department.
      To keep this breed healthy, I strongly recommend following all of the advice on my Weimaraner Health Page.
    cover_TYD120.jpg To learn more about training Weimaraners to be calm and well-behaved, consider my dog training book,
    Teach Your Dog 100 English Words.

    It's a unique Vocabulary and Respect Training Program that will make your Weimaraner the smartest, most well-behaved companion you've ever had.

    Teaches your dog to listen to you, to pay attention to you, and to do whatever you ask him to do.



    cover_HTB120.jpg My dog buying guide, How To Buy a Good Dog, will teach you everything you need to know about finding a healthy Weimaraner puppy. Health problems have become so widespread in dogs today that this book is required reading for ANYONE who is thinking of getting a purebred, crossbred, or mixed breed dog.


    If you'd like to consult with me personally about whether the Weimaraner might be a good dog breed for your family, I offer a Dog Breed Consulting Service.

    cover_11T120.jpg Once you have your Weimaraner home, you need to KEEP him healthy -- or if he's having any current health problems, you need to get him back on the road to good health.

    My dog health care book, 11 Things You Must Do Right To Keep Your Dog Healthy and Happy is the book you need.

    Raise your dog the right way and you will be helping him live a longer, healthier life while avoiding health problems and unnecessary veterinary expenses.



    Please consider adopting an ADULT Weimaraner...
    When you're acquiring a Weimaraner PUPPY, you're acquiring potential -- what he one day will be. So "typical breed characteristics" are very important.
    But when you acquire an adult dog, you're acquiring what he already IS and you can decide whether he is the right dog for you based on that reality. There are plenty of adult Weimaraners who have already proven themselves NOT to have negative characteristics that are "typical" for their breed. If you find such an adult dog, don't let "typical breed negatives" worry you. Just be happy that you found an atypical individual -- and enjoy!




    ohhh here we go again:P:P
    tell us, whats your problem with this breed?????? you seem determined to absolutely slate them at ever opertunity(ref post weimaraner pup). fact is i hunt with good ones, and anyone who ive ever met who did likewise loves them. you obviously didnt but continue to try and convince everyone that theyre crap........or did you just get bitten by one:eek::eek:. actually why dont you let us all know what you hunt with and let us pick weak points with your favourite breed:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭EPointer=Birdss


    I think the opening line of any comments about breeds should be;

    I have one and....
    I had one and....
    or even a friend of mine has/had one and....

    Otherwise I think opinions are unfounded.

    Your best bet OP is go & see one working. Preferably the parents of a potential pup. If they're good & you like their style then your on the right path & remember a pup is still a lottery regardless of what breed.
    They are a fine looking dog & that bit rarer so if you could get a "good" one then why not chance it if it's the dog you like... :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭irish setter


    I think the opening line of any comments about breeds should be;

    I have one and....
    I had one and....
    or even a friend of mine has/had one and....

    Otherwise I think opinions are unfounded.

    Your best bet OP is go & see one working. Preferably the parents of a potential pup. If they're good & you like their style then your on the right path & remember a pup is still a lottery regardless of what breed.
    They are a fine looking dog & that bit rarer so if you could get a "good" one then why not chance it if it's the dog you like... :cool:

    i'd even go one further and say all these questions about which breed and what is the best breed are totally redundent. likewise are most of the answers. a good dog is a good dog and can be found in all of the breeds likewise a bad one. the important thing is to find one that is bred to do what you want it to do


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    Like the lads said it boils down to hunting instinct and a good nose. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭doyle61


    one of my uncles is a springer man to the last but he still reackons that the best dog he ever saw working was an old jack russel his auld chap had few years ago:eek::eek: as aslan sang "its a crazy world":D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭EPointer=Birdss


    I've seen jack russels hunting ditches as good as any Springer. Fox dogs though & they'd ate a pheasant on ya if got there before you!

    Also know of a guy who used a border collie to great affect apparently :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    Weimaraner are great dogs in the right hands and are one of a handful of gundogs who display guarding instinct as well.

    In Germany for example most Weimaraner breeders will only give their pups to hunters not as pets. They are usually worked on wild boar there.

    Not a beginners dog, IMHO.


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