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Ireland agrees to lend Greece €450 million

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  • #32
    darragh666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭darragh666


    Ah sure why not. After Greece is bailed out then Europe can bail us out.


  • #33
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    lonad wrote: »
    This post should be posted intermittenly until people read it and see that we are not giving anyone money:rolleyes:
    This is after hours, reading past the thread title is optional apparently

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • #34
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    lonad wrote: »
    This post should be posted intermittenly until people read it and see that we are not giving anyone money:rolleyes:

    Won't work. Besides, if you mention EU, that just attracts trouble.


  • #35
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    We've been handed so much from the EU. I personally don't give a fuk if we lend some back.


  • #36
    tman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    mikom wrote: »
    It's the least we could do in return for them giving us gayness....... Father.
    I actually opened this thread just to see how long it would last before someone came out with the old "sure, they invented gayness" thing...
    14 posts. Well done!


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  • #37
    peasant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    darragh666 wrote: »
    Ah sure why not. After Greece is bailed out then Europe can bail us out.

    Where have you been for the last two years ...they already are bailing us out.

    Where do you think the NAMA money came from? The only difference between Paddy and Papadopolus is that we were a bit quicker at holding the cap out.


  • #38
    bfocusd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 723 ✭✭✭bfocusd


    Millicent wrote: »
    Will we be giving it to them in 50's or will we they just give us the change from a €500 note? :P

    In fairness though, it is ridiculous. Isn't Greece about the only country worse off than Ireland in the EU at the moment? IIRC, we were neck and neck there for a while. How the f.u.ck can loaning that sort of money be justified by any means?


    i wonder if they put an insane rate of interest on it!! hahaha

    THEN its not a complete c*ck up like everything else they have decided on..
    doubt they were intelligent enough though to think of interest though!


  • #39
    Sofaspud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭Sofaspud


    So a few days ago they were chanting "We will stand up and do something, we are not Ireland", our response, "here, have some money that we didn't stand up for!"

    Makes perfect sense.


  • #40
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Better not bite the hand that feeds us.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #41
    profitius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    Deleted User wrote: »
    We've been handed so much from the EU. I personally don't give a fuk if we lend some back.


    We've been giving back billions over the years. Giving away our fishing rights for starters. Then theres all the brand new Mercs, BMW's, Audis, Opels, VW's that people are driving around. Theres Tesco, Lidl, Aldi etc etc taking billions of profits out of the Irish economy back to Britian and Germany.

    So for all the propaganda of free EU aid and road signs saying the new road was funded by the EU theres nothing said of what Ireland contributes to the EU and as well as that we're also governed by the EU now. They introduce new rules every year in a sneaky way to form a superstate.


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  • #42
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    In my opinion, if a musical can't make enough money to stay in business, I can't see ant reason for us to bankroll it.


  • #43
    epgc3fyqirnbsx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    profitius wrote: »
    We've been giving back billions over the years. Giving away our fishing rights for starters. Then theres all the brand new Mercs, BMW's, Audis, Opels, VW's that people are driving around. Theres Tesco, Lidl, Aldi etc etc taking billions of profits out of the Irish economy back to Britian and Germany.

    So for all the propaganda of free EU aid and road signs saying the new road was funded by the EU theres nothing said of what Ireland contributes to the EU and as well as that we're also governed by the EU now. They introduce new rules every year in a sneaky way to form a superstate.

    Let's have a bit of perspective though, on the first point we also gained fishing rights. Fishing, while being a big industry here, wasn't the biggest in the scheme of things, had it been then we may not have joined, like Norway (though oil had a lot to do with that too)

    Lets remember our peripheral status here, we already have high transprt costs, if we weren't in the EU then we woukdn't benefit from the free market either which would effectively mean we'd exprt shag all.

    Had we not joined the EU we would not have afforded an upgrade of our infrastructure or free education. It was free education and an educated workforce that attracted the IT and pharmuctical industry to this country thereby taking us out of our permanent recession and giving us a decent standard of living. What has been squandered since then has been a result of bad policy from our own governments.
    And we are shagged with recession but it would be a hell of worse had we never joined.

    We knew from day one that we would have to pay back someday and we have benefited from our membership and so have to do what is right. Don't pay back? Then get a stern eff off from the rest of the world if we aren't prepared to be reasonable and no exports again.
    And we all benefit from a wide established market. The richer the community, the higher the chance of them buying our products. It's ABC stuff


  • #44
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Rhys Substantial Wasp wrote: »
    Let's have a bit of perspective though, on the first point we also gained fishing rights. Fishing, while being a big industry here, wasn't the biggest in the scheme of things, had it been then we may not have joined, like Norway (though oil had a lot to do with that too)

    Lets remember our peripheral status here, we already have high transprt costs, if we weren't in the EU then we woukdn't benefit from the free market either which would effectively mean we'd exprt shag all.

    Had we not joined the EU we would not have afforded an upgrade of our infrastructure or free education. It was free education and an educated workforce that attracted the IT and pharmuctical industry to this country thereby taking us out of our permanent recession and giving us a decent standard of living. What has been squandered since then has been a result of bad policy from our own governments.
    And we are shagged with recession but it would be a hell of worse had we never joined.

    We knew from day one that we would have to pay back someday and we have benefited from our membership and so have to do what is right. Don't pay back? Then get a stern eff off from the rest of the world if we aren't prepared to be reasonable and no exports again.
    And we all benefit from a wide established market. The richer the community, the higher the chance of them buying our products. It's ABC stuff

    Indeed.

    Look, by not joining the EEC we had an opportunity cost. Fishing rights would be in that, though even that is debatable.

    By joining the EEC we also had an opportunity cost. Farming Subsidies etc. would have been foregone, the single market, cohesion funds etc.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #45
    Fuhrer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    Hank_Jones wrote: »
    when you can give it away to Greece?


    The concept of lending is new to you, isnt it?


  • #46
    Amhran Nua
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Amhran Nua


    Millicent wrote: »
    In fairness though, it is ridiculous. Isn't Greece about the only country worse off than Ireland in the EU at the moment?
    No, the UK is considerably worse off within the EU. The difference is they aren't in the Eurozone, don't use euros, and so nobody cares if the pound collapses.
    Rhys Substantial Wasp wrote: »
    Had we not joined the EU we would not have afforded an upgrade of our infrastructure or free education. It was free education and an educated workforce that attracted the IT and pharmuctical industry to this country thereby taking us out of our permanent recession and giving us a decent standard of living.
    What? It was the low corporate tax rate that attracted the jobs, something that the EU is determined to get rid of. Everything else flowed from that. Theres a lot of nonsense going around about the EU's contributions to our economy, most important of which was the fact that we were in the common market, which benefitted everyone else as much as it did us, so that was doing no particular favours. Its not nearly as one sided as you might think.
    Rhys Substantial Wasp wrote: »
    We knew from day one that we would have to pay back someday and we have benefited from our membership and so have to do what is right.
    Sorry, if its not a contractual or legal obligation, we owe nothing. Anyone that says otherwise isn't focused on Ireland's best interests, and is usually trying to get something for nothing under the guise of some sort of "moral" obligation.


  • #47
    L.Jenkins
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    I read this and I can only do one thing:

    http://raoworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/double-facepalm.jpg


  • #48
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    djhunter30 wrote: »
    I read this and I can only do one thing:

    http://raoworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/double-facepalm.jpg

    Why did you feel compelled to share that with us? Do you think we've not seen that before?


  • #49
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    ITT: nearly everyone can't fucking read.

    Well done lads, you've reached a new low, even for here.


  • #50
    Sykk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    Yes because if we don't help out Greece, I'm sure other countries will help us out when we're Debt ridden..

    Yes: We're not doing that bad compared to alot of countries
    Yes: If Greece don't get out of debt it will be horrific for countries dealing with them economically
    Yes: Ireland were given silly ammounts by the EU and participating countries over the years

    I don't see a problem with this one.


  • #51
    bonerm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    If we don't help Greece, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Czechmate.


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  • #52
    Skyuser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭Skyuser


    Ireland will make money from this. Greece will be paying a higher rate of interest for the loan than Ireland pays for the money. It's win win for Ireland.


  • #53
    Savman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Does this mean we get free holiers, for lookin' after 'em like? Or maybe get some of the greek wimmenz sent over here.

    Rabble rabble.


  • #54
    Fuhrer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    Time to pack up and leave this European thing, I believe we've milked the Germans for all we can.


  • #55
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    They might try lending their own citizens some money next


  • #56
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    Time to pack up and leave this European thing, I believe we've milked the Germans for all we can.

    It's too early for wwIII


  • #57
    Savman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    orourkeda wrote: »
    It's too early for wwIII
    People actually milked German people in WW2? Crikey. No wonder Hitler got mad.


  • #58
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Amhran Nua wrote: »
    No, the UK is considerably worse off within the EU. The difference is they aren't in the Eurozone, don't use euros, and so nobody cares if the pound collapses.


    What? It was the low corporate tax rate that attracted the jobs, something that the EU is determined to get rid of. Everything else flowed from that. Theres a lot of nonsense going around about the EU's contributions to our economy, most important of which was the fact that we were in the common market, which benefitted everyone else as much as it did us, so that was doing no particular favours. Its not nearly as one sided as you might think.


    Sorry, if its not a contractual or legal obligation, we owe nothing. Anyone that says otherwise isn't focused on Ireland's best interests, and is usually trying to get something for nothing under the guise of some sort of "moral" obligation.

    Well it is a common market!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #59
    force majeure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭force majeure


    €450 mill, thats about 15 euro millions wins in a row. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
    Thats it get the lotto lads to sort out the Greeks.


  • #60
    force majeure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭force majeure


    ... or may be not.


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  • #61
    bored and fussy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭bored and fussy


    galwayrush wrote: »
    Apparently it's more important to impress the powers that be in the EU than look after our own people.:rolleyes:

    I guess it is looking after our own in the long run if we need a bail out hopefully the same will be done for us

    i think we have to do the hard stuff now if not it is curtains i.e I.M.F


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