Sunday Independent: Quality newspaper, rag or something in between?

flynnlives · 12-04-2010 11:43AM

hairyleprechaun wrote: »

Wow! She is really quite useless!

"heading out for the odd quite pint"
Anyone notice anything wrong with that line? If she could at least know the difference between quiet and quite it'd be a start. Spellcheck doesn't catch everything.

Could she not leave the man alone on his holiday? She didn't even have a reason to be there. To see how he was getting on? What is the point of that? When he then asks her not to give away where he stays she does anyway, what a donkey.

Sickened I read it, but I wanted to give her a chance. That was absolute muck with no point to the article at all.

The way she finished it was useless too:
"And all in an area that bore an uncanny resemblance to Craggy Island. Now even the creators of Fr Ted couldn't concoct something as funny as that."

What was funny? The fact that he was staying in a caravan? What?

What section of the paper does she write in?

The whole article was a shill, pure FF propaganda to spin Brian the salt of the earth Taoiseach. There is no way in hell she would randomly show up and have biscuits and tea with him.
Codology of the highest order.

General Zod · 12-04-2010 12:36PM

brianthebard wrote: »

There's no such thing as full-fat coke! What a terrible excuse for a journalist.

It also means she doesn't understand what the actual fattening thing in Coke/Diet Coke is.

tipperaryboy · 12-04-2010 12:38PM

Its not to bad,it does have a large amount of tripe but there are a few good articles worth reading in it from time to time.A paper never refuses ink and thats the case with every newspaper.There isnt really many allternatives on a sunday are there? Alot of people buy it out of habit anyway.

General Zod · 12-04-2010 12:41PM

Tribune or the Sunday Business Post are far better. Hell, even the non business reporting in the SBP is far ahead of the Sindo or the News of the Screws.

Spiritoftheseventies · 12-04-2010 12:43PM

Gene Kerrigans column is worth the price of the paper alone. Essential reading.

SlabMurphy · 12-04-2010 12:48PM

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Gene Kerrigans column is worth the price of the paper alone. Essential reading.

Have'nt read the toilet roll in a long time, but Gene Kerrigan is good - if he allowed to write as he's sees it and not spiked by the editor.

Thomas828 · 12-04-2010 01:12PM

Whatever anyone says about the Indo or the Sindo, no Irish tabloid is as naff as the Sunday World, a sorry waste of precious paper. Its on-line edition is just as crass.

Spiritoftheseventies · 12-04-2010 01:17PM

SlabMurphy wrote: »

Have'nt read the toilet roll in a long time, but Gene Kerrigan is good - if he allowed to write as he's sees it and not spiked by the editor.

I wouldnt think Gene would allow to have his copy spiked tbh. Cant say I have noticed it.

mloc · 12-04-2010 01:21PM

It's not a paper, it's just Hello printed in a different format.

L.Jenkins · 12-04-2010 01:21PM

Could be better! I've read worse papers that would be better served as toilet paper, (may have been mentioned already) for example The Sun.

orourkeda · 12-04-2010 01:22PM

In the normal course of events one uses toilet paper to cleanse ones buttocks following the excretion of faecal matter from one's anus.

Using the Sunday Independent would just hinder this process by leaving Brendan O'Connors sh*t there too. In conclusion I wouldnt wipe my ass with the Sunday Independent.

argonaut · 12-04-2010 01:23PM

Hilariously awful rag, and closer to the Daily Mail than the actual Irish version of the Daily Mail.

sron · 12-04-2010 01:33PM

What's the best Sunday paper to get anyway? I'm familiar with The Sunday Times but don't like it that much. Where do The Observer, Tribune, et al stand?

Spiritoftheseventies · 12-04-2010 01:35PM

sron wrote: »

What's the best Sunday paper to get anyway? I'm familiar with The Sunday Times but don't like it that much. Where do The Observer, Tribune, et al stand?

Tribune if I had to choose. Like Susan Breens coverage on the north and Michael Clifford and Ken Foxe (who broke the story on O Donoghue) very good as well.

12-04-2010 01:52PM

I actually think the indo on a sunday isn't too bad...its better than it is the rest of the week anyway..

Plowman · 12-04-2010 02:01PM

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stovelid · 12-04-2010 02:01PM

It's one of the most abhorrent rags around.

In some ways, I dislike it even even more than the obvious tabloid candidates because of the disingenuous way it passes off its moralistic tattle, social-diaristics-as-opinion and general forelock-tugging as being somehow other than the former.

brianthebard · 12-04-2010 02:20PM

sron wrote: »

What's the best Sunday paper to get anyway? I'm familiar with The Sunday Times but don't like it that much. Where do The Observer, Tribune, et al stand?

The Observer is ok, but a bit too middle class centrist for me. tribune is a FG mouthpiece iirc (and I might not cause I'm crap with names), I quite like the English Independent (The IoS) but it can be quite anti-countryside sometimes.

General Zod · 12-04-2010 02:24PM

brianthebard wrote: »

tribune is a FG mouthpiece iirc (and I might not cause I'm crap with names), .

more anti-FF than pro FG, but once you take that into account it's generally better than the Sindo (who'll back whatever policy keeps it's D4 readership happy).

Prof.Badass · 12-04-2010 02:33PM

The normal independant is pretty shitty aswell. If i remember correctly they were the ones who called GTA a "kids computer game" when the whole secret sex-scene thing came out (ffs it's an 18s game).

I once got the saturday independant on a 4 hour flight to pass the time with a friend adding funny captions to the photos (it was a boring flight). Anyway, we ended up reading the articles. The amount of innacuracies we found were amazing. I guess back in the day newspapers could trot out all sorts of ****e and without the free flow of information available on the web the readers would be none the wiser. Now they're continuing the way they were, instead of adapting to cope with an increasingly educated and informed readership.

I get my news from the internet, avoiding stand-alone articles if possible. Boards has way more balanced discussion and differing viewpoints than any newspaper could.

Ash.J.Williams · 12-04-2010 02:40PM

alias141282 wrote: »

Did any of you see this article?: http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/independent-woman/health-fitness/dont-hate-me-because-im-thin-2029412.html

"Nothing tastes as good as being skinny feels".

Journo used to be fat and is now happy to be thin and works hard for it? seems ok. Hardley newsworthy but i've read worse.

Ash.J.Williams · 12-04-2010 02:48PM

Years ago I remember reading a decent bio of Syd Barrett of pink floyd online. A few years later I read the same article in the sunday independent obituary page. The only difference between the indo version and the original version was the indo artical had a little extra smugness and was written by that freak Barry Egan, the plagiarizing bas**d!!

On the subject of Barry Egan, anyone see any merit in anything he writes?

PeterIanStaker · 12-04-2010 04:38PM

Utter, utter, despicable, incoherent, forelock - tugging rag.

And, what makes it worse is that due to its lack of absorbent qualities, it cannot be used as h0le roll. Therefore rendering it about as useful as a handbrake on a canoe.

(I wonder who the people who voted it as "quality" in the above poll were. Did that smug c*nt O'Connor or that viper Harris log in under a few different accounts? Wouldn't surprise me. )

Truley · 12-04-2010 04:42PM

vinylmesh wrote: »

I get my news from the internet, avoiding stand-alone articles if possible. Boards has way more balanced discussion and differing viewpoints than any newspaper could.

Exactly, say no to pre-chewed brain food!

Caoimhín · 12-04-2010 04:50PM

The Sunday Business Post is the best Sunday paper by a mile.

Nodin · 12-04-2010 04:56PM

Biggins wrote: »

Aww bless... I'd like to be that young again.

..and on them new fangled drugs.

orourkeda · 12-04-2010 04:56PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I actually think the indo on a sunday isn't too bad...its better than it is the rest of the week anyway..

That really doesnt say much. The Indo during the week isnt much of a step up from the gutter press.

tech77 · 12-04-2010 05:02PM

Agricola wrote: »

But still, the Sunday Independent deals with Irish issues from front page to back page, including the supplements. Have you read the Sunday Times recently? Its basically the British version with some Irish news tacked in here and there.
I dont mind that myself. Id rather read a travel or motoring supplement article written by someone in London, rather than wading through Brendan O Connor's attempts at journalism. But still, its allegedly an Irish paper, technically it should'nt be filled with wall to wall British election coverage!

This is exactly my problem with the Sunday Times as well.
The travel, culture and motor supplements etc are great (better than anything the Sindo produces) but as you say, the main section always seems to have a token bit of Irish news stuck between 10 pages of British politics.
Just doesn't seem that relevant.

And yeah, there's an awful lot of sh1te in the Sindo, BOC, Eoghan Harris.

stovelid · 12-04-2010 05:03PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

On the subject of Barry Egan, anyone see any merit in anything he writes?

Only insofar as the humane side of me can't sneer at the fact that a man so thoroughly beaten with the ugly ginger stick might actually be getting to sleep with Irish models on the basis of his sycophantic articles.

Chuchoter · 12-04-2010 05:07PM

I'm an Irish Times person myself. But the independent is literally a very small step above the mail. Their headlines are a joke example

Mutinous muinteoiri have the knives out for Machete Mary

Alliteration is usually left to the domain of the tabloids. And then theres that bigoted, misinformed idiot Eilis O'Hanlon.

Sunday Independent: Quality newspaper, rag or something in between?

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