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Paul Williams: Investigative journalist and force for good or scumbag opportunist

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  • #32
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Personally I think he's a bit of a prick, doesn't care about the gangsters 'nor their victims - actually 'mercenary' comes to mind, he's just in it to make money off someone else's misery.


  • #33
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Wanker extraordinaire.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055865710


  • #34
    dragonbet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭dragonbet


    nucking futs wrote: »
    Sometimes I actually think he's trying to get himself killed like Veronica Guerin, as a sort of martyr for his cause

    He's no Veronica Guerin anyway, she wasnt such a sensationalist...!!!


  • #35
    aidan24326
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Jay D wrote: »
    Paul Williams is to news stories as Tiesto is to dance music and as Gazza is to football.

    Er, Gazza was actually very good at football??!

    Mr Trade In wrote: »
    I can't stand the guy, he glorifies Junkies and Gangsters, I wouldn't even use the News of the World to house train my dogs now,if the guy wants to investigate some criminals why doesn't he go after Anglo Irish Bank, and Bertie Ahern.

    I suppose tackling real issues like that would involved real journalism, rather than the sensationalist crap you get in The Sunday World and the NOTW. Like you say, all he seems to be doing is glorifying low-grade thugs that we'd otherwise never even have heard of. These guys must love the jazzed-up nicknames bestowed on them, walking around thinking they're Al Capone thanks to the constant coverage they've been getting in the SW, when in reality most of them are no more than small-time hoodlums.


  • #36
    StupidLikeAFox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,915 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Used to find his articles interesting, and read a few of his books, but lately i just get the image of all these criminals rushing to the shop on a sunday morning to see if they got a mention. Every week theres a similar story except the criminals nicknames are switched around.

    Classic example of what he does is how he portrayed the General, as a darling ordinary decent criminal, sure he never touched drugs and always took care of his family. Fair enough he nailed some young fella to a pool table but sure didnt he bring him to the hospital after?

    He is to journalism what Anna Kournikova is to tennis, or what Sarah Newman is to high powered business people (i like this game)


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  • #37
    magma69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭magma69


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0WmBG5mFLw


    For those who haven't seen this disgusting ad.

    Re Gazza: I think it the comparison can be made because both are good at what they do, but they are classless (off the pitch for Gaz). As someone said, his books are well written, he could be a decent journalist if he covered something else or if he went about his crime reporting without the sole intention of making money/getting more popular. Bit like Lady Gaga actually :pac: She could have been awesome too but she chose popularity over using her talent to make decent music (in my opinion of course, I'll shamelessly admit I am a music snob).

    Anyways, I'm a bit wrecked (understatement:D) and waffling, I'm sure there has been bad grammar and spelling but it's 4:02 on a Sat night/Sun morning so it's forgivable to you understanding lot isn't it? So expect more random tangents to come out! :pac: Because everyone has left the party and I ain't going to bed for a while yet!! Onward bound to more waffling I say! :D! *cue epic suitable "onward bound" music (a bugle sounds appropriate at this moment, don't ask why, it just does!)

    Anyway here is a clip of Gazza showing both his class and his not so class moments.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3JSpzMTnlQ


    I'm gonna regret this post tomorrow but what the heck! Being in the glass half full state of mind I am in, I shall look on the bright side, there are worse places to make a fool of myself than boards! :D


  • #38
    goingpostal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 858 ✭✭✭goingpostal


    barakus wrote: »
    The stories are bollox half the time as well: 'One of Limericks most hardened gangsters' buying a pint of milk and a fukcin breakfast roll. Who gives a sh1te about this stuff. The sense of self satisfaction practically radiates off the fukcer as well!

    LOL. "Crime to Five" was the headline if I remember rightly. It sure looked like a tasty breakfast roll though. And a pint of milk to wash it down. Heavenly! I wonder did he put ketchup on it or not?


  • #39
    Mister men
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭Mister men


    You have'nt made it as a criminal until Williams writes a book about you. Fact.


  • #40
    Duggy747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Everytime I see that cùnt's face on TV I feel like throwing whatevers in my hand at it.

    What a load of sensationilist bullshìt!!

    Everyone wins because of this pathetic excuse of a journalist, he gets his money from the gobshìtes that'll employ him and the scumbags get their big heads from being compared to Tony Montana.

    Way to "expose" these thugs, you dickhead!


  • #41
    M cebee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    DublinWriter wrote: »
    As reporters go, I'd classify him as 'embedded' as his copy appears to come exclusively via both off and on the record garda sources.

    It's hard to find a happy-balance of sources from both sides of the fence, look what happened to poor Veronica Guerin.

    it sems like some of these crime reporters are embedded with the guards alright

    guess they decide better to be on that side of the fence

    sometimes that RTE guy seems like hes a bloody spokesman for the guards


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  • #42
    goingpostal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 858 ✭✭✭goingpostal


    M cebee wrote: »
    it sems like some of these crime reporters are embedded with the guards alright

    guess they decide better to be on that side of the fence

    sometimes that RTE guy seems like hes a bloody spokesman for the guards

    Was just about to make the same point. Paul Reynolds deserves a mention in this thread. That guy is pathetic, always towing the garda line. Why bother employing him, when all he ever does is read out Garda press releases? Thats not journalism, thats being a parrot. Tony Connolly was the same during the Gaza war of 08/09, reporting that war from Jerusalem(!!) and just reading out Israeli government press releases. It is their smug, self-important tone that really drives me around the twist, as if they are hard hitting journalists, rather than just poodles for those in power.


  • #43
    RMD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    Reading his books and pieces in the newspaper made my want to pack in my 9 to 5, sell my house and buy a nice little ex-council one in West / North Dublin and start selling Heroine for a living, just to get my mention.


  • #44
    Conor Bourke
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 17,426 ✭✭✭✭Conor Bourke


    rednik wrote: »
    He is a high powered journalist who drives a high powered car and has many high powered guns and by the way he loves all things high powered.

    Haha rednik, for some reason that reminds me of Ron Burgundy "I have many leatherbound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany" kinda style!

    But I agree, he's glorifying these scumbags. Can't stand him.


  • #45
    PeterIanStaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    He's like Ireland's Jeremy Kyle - he needs mindless violent scumbags and their antics to earn a living.


  • #46
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Joey the lips wrote: »
    I dislike the man myself. I believe all his information comes from touts and informants and they are not the most reliable sources especially when your paying them.

    However credit due.... His books were well written and a nice read. So no matter what...

    How could he print any lies. Is it worth paying the like of Fat Freddie for defaming them


  • #47
    Joey the lips
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    orourkeda wrote: »
    How could he print any lies. Is it worth paying the like of Fat Freddie for defaming them

    Please re-read my post... I never said he prints lies. He prints what was told....what was told might not be the truth though


  • #48
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Does anyone remember the night he was on the Late late about ten years ago.

    He was talking about his friends the Guards and said they had showed him child pornography photos, the crowd lapped this up and he could tell.

    He then went on to say something I can't post here, not even if I spoiler it.

    The audience gasped in horror.

    I would love to have that clip as it showed him for what he is.

    The man thinks he is the ****ing Equalizer.

    Said it before but for years he slated British newspapers as being the "Gutter press" everywhere he went and now he as jumped ship.


  • #49
    UrbanSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    What did he say? Go on.


  • #50
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    greetings wrote: »
    What did he say? Go on.

    I honestly can't say.

    I really believe I would be banned and my clean record means a lot, which is why I am always polite, shy and retiring in my posts :p

    Seriously though, it wasn't good.

    He said it to try and impress everyone.

    Why he was taken into that section of Harcourt St and had to see those photographs, I have no clue. Could they have not just told him what the photos were like?

    Then again, maybe the guards were of the same breed and trying to impress him in turn.


  • #51
    Bigdeadlydave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Bigdeadlydave


    Ah Jayzus! I'm really curious now!


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  • #52
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    greetings wrote: »
    What did he say? Go on.
    Bigdeadlydave wrote: »
    Ah Jayzus! I'm really curious now!

    Damn sensationalist headline newspaper buyers ya's .. :p


  • #53
    DarrenMSP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 147 ✭✭DarrenMSP


    http://www.rte.ie/tv/latelate/20100312.html

    Find your Waldo!


  • #54
    Bigdeadlydave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Bigdeadlydave


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Damn sensationalist headline newspaper buyers ya's .. :p

    Usually a quick pick up of the paper, brief glance at page 3 during my journey to whatever page the headline is continued on(page 8 ftw) a 30 second skim, followed by a rapid replacement of the paper on the stand suffices :) :cool:


    http://www.rte.ie/tv/latelate/20100312.html

    Find your Waldo!
    It doesn't go back far enough! :pac:


  • #55
    aDeener
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    Alondra Tender Kettledrum wrote: »
    Personally I think he's a bit of a prick, doesn't care about the gangsters 'nor their victims - actually 'mercenary' comes to mind, he's just in it to make money off someone else's misery.
    cant you say that about the vast majority of journalists? considering the vast majority of news is bad news


  • #56
    aDeener
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Does anyone remember the night he was on the Late late about ten years ago.

    He was talking about his friends the Guards and said they had showed him child pornography photos, the crowd lapped this up and he could tell.

    He then went on to say something I can't post here, not even if I spoiler it.

    The audience gasped in horror.

    I would love to have that clip as it showed him for what he is.

    The man thinks he is the ****ing Equalizer.

    Said it before but for years he slated British newspapers as being the "Gutter press" everywhere he went and now he as jumped ship.

    if it was on the late late surely you can say it here, it being a matter of fact and all. pulleazze ;)


  • #57
    SlabMurphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 462 ✭✭SlabMurphy


    Their was an article in the Village magazine asking the skangers what did they think of Paul Williams. Most of them said Williams makes crime look exciting and cool. As one of them said " You know you've made it as a crim ( criminal ) when Williams puts a nickname on you."


  • #58
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    aDeener wrote: »
    if it was on the late late surely you can say it here, it being a matter of fact and all. pulleazze ;)

    You would think, but nope.


  • #59
    UrbanSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    Petey boo,would you PM it to me? It will actually kill me with frustration.


  • #60
    Darlughda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭Darlughda


    Jay D wrote: »
    Paul Williams is to news stories as Tiesto is to dance music and as Gazza is to football.

    Oh no. What's wrong with Tiesto?:eek:


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  • #61
    UrbanSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    Why thank you pete. Rather rank. I think you'd be able to put it under spoilers? Of course,don't want to pressure you if you'd rather not.


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