Motorway Speeding

focus_mad · 07-04-2010 11:59PM

heffomike54 wrote: »

By any chance, did you manage to see the driver of the squad car? The reason I ask is if they were in plain clothes, speeders are not their concern & to pull people over for speeding may compromise their current task.

Yup he was in plainclothes..

eroo · 08-04-2010 12:05AM

bigbadbear wrote: »

It totally depends on the circumstances. I used to drive home at about 3 in the mornign up the m50 and when it was dry i would do about 160km/h. Some people will be shocked at this but it really isn't that fast. I would probably do 200 if i was in a capable car.

Well I'm glad you have thought about the consequences if you were to lose control and crash at 160/200kmh.. I'm sure you have probably thought about the Gardai, Firefighters and Ambulance personnel who would have the task of picking bits of you off the road, putting them in a bag and then informing your loved ones.. I'm sure you've thought about your loved ones having to identify your mess.. I'm sure you've thought about your loved ones having a closed casket funeral for you.. etc

Am I being a bit harsh? No. Obey the speed limits, and you stand a much better chance of making it to your destinations.. regardless of how capable your car may be.:rolleyes:

Zambia · 08-04-2010 12:24AM

What happens to this car

After hitting a tree at 140-160Kmph is this

There was 5 people put 6 feet under as a result of this crash. I drive by the site every day. The force of this impact felled the tree it collided with of a size of the tree behind the SES volunteer

bigbadbear · 08-04-2010 05:26AM

eroo wrote: »

Well I'm glad you have thought about the consequences if you were to lose control and crash at 160/200kmh.. I'm sure you have probably thought about the Gardai, Firefighters and Ambulance personnel who would have the task of picking bits of you off the road, putting them in a bag and then informing your loved ones.. I'm sure you've thought about your loved ones having to identify your mess.. I'm sure you've thought about your loved ones having a closed casket funeral for you.. etc

Am I being a bit harsh? No. Obey the speed limits, and you stand a much better chance of making it to your destinations.. regardless of how capable your car may be.:rolleyes:

Everything you have said here is totally missing my point. Don't just take what is advertised on the tv as granted. Cleaning up a mess of a car crash is an awful thought but I bet you any money you've never been in a car going 200km/h on amotorway. It's not dangerous is my point. I'm not saying it's dangerous and I don't care. I used to talk about guys who would speed past me and say how crazy they were because I didn't realise that what they were doing actually wasn't that mad.

About my car (Toyota Corolla) I said it is not capable of 200. It can do it but it isn't made to do it regularly. It is happy enough to cruise at 150km/h though.

Zambia232 wrote: »

What happens to this car

After hitting a tree at 140-160Kmph is this

There was 5 people put 6 feet under as a result of this crash. I drive by the site every day. The force of this impact felled the tree it collided with of a size of the tree behind the SES volunteer

I hate boy racers. They endanger others and don't care. They also make my insurance high :mad: but contrary to what gay byrne may say speed does not kill: crashing kills. I would love to take a powerful car and drive on a motorway for 50 miles at 200km/h+ and show the non believers that it is not dangerous. Its actually very very simple!

Zambia, What made the blue car crash? The whole point of my post is to highlight that motorways are different to roads. There are no trees to crash into! There are no obstacles like children running out or cars pulling out of side roads to make you crash in the first place.

Zambia · 08-04-2010 07:02AM

bigbadbear wrote: »

Zambia, What made the blue car crash? The whole point of my post is to highlight that motorways are different to roads. There are no trees to crash into! There are no obstacles like children running out or cars pulling out of side roads to make you crash in the first place.

The picture are simply to show what happens when a solid object is hit by a car at 140-160kmph. Not to say this was caused by speed alone sorry if it came out that way.

The driver was a boy racer and was not experienced plus he had a few drinks on board. He actually 5 passengers (6 in the car) a girl survived. Speed was not the only cause of the accident however it was a factor in the fatal result On this I am sure we would agree? As if this accident happened at 50Kmph 5 kids would not have died.

I own the same type of car its got a 4 litre engine in it and I would agree I could possibly reach 200 kmph for 50 kmph on a motorway however what is my reaction time or braking distance at that speed. Alongside which if anything goes wrong Bird strike , stupid kangaroo , obstacle falls of another car ...and I crash I'm dead and anyone who is stupid enough to be in the car with me.

Having never driven on the Autobahn I cant compare it but I am pretty sure the M50 or the M1 don't compare. The germans as a people are better rule followers which I think adds to the way the autobahn works. For example who here knows someone who on their learners (2nd Provisional) drove on the M50 or is doing so now?

MagicSean · 08-04-2010 08:13AM

bigbadbear wrote: »

Everything you have said here is totally missing my point. Don't just take what is advertised on the tv as granted. Cleaning up a mess of a car crash is an awful thought but I bet you any money you've never been in a car going 200km/h on amotorway. It's not dangerous is my point. I'm not saying it's dangerous and I don't care. I used to talk about guys who would speed past me and say how crazy they were because I didn't realise that what they were doing actually wasn't that mad.

Yes it is. If you have to avoid something unexpected you are much less likely to be able to keep control of the car. And as Zambia pointed out the consequences are much worse too.

Sisu200 · 08-04-2010 08:15AM

bigbadbear wrote: »

you've never been in a car going 200km/h on amotorway. It's not dangerous is my point. I'm not saying it's dangerous and I don't care.

speed does not kill: crashing kills. QUOTE]

I agree, its not the Airplane that kills in a crash but the ground when you hit it!

I have been in a car at 200kmph in Germany and I agree you would have to look at the speedo to know you were doing it, and yes you do feel safe, but in Ireland the vast majority of roads are not suited for any speed over 120kmph for instance

The New M9 motorway has had alot of accidents already since it opened before Christmas, the reason for the majority of these in my opinion is the lay of the land and speed, I am not talking about huge speed, 120kmph to 130kmph, the car can sway from side to side as you crest the hills, the camber on the road is poor and you are constantly correcting your car, I know because I have nearly hit the barrier several times on my way to work, it's weird, I would not feel safe driving on this road at any speed over about 100kmph as I dont feel I have adequate control of the car.

The N4 at Mullingar where the accident was yesterday and the road was closed,

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0407/rta.html

The truck crossed the central reservation for whatever reason, I passed by the scene early this morning, I am aware this is a dual carriageway, however they plan to change this to a motorway sometime in the future, and there are many instances around the country where cars, trucks, vans have crossed the central reservation and come into the path of oncoming traffic and at 160kmph to 200kmph, meeting an obstacle like that you havent a prayer, you have less time to react to the situation and try to avoid a collision

I dont mind been the person driving at 95kmph in a 100kmph and been in everyones way, as long as I am driving as safe as possible

just to clarify I used to be a prominent member of the rat race on our roads, thinking everyone was in my way and trying to acheive the fastest possible speed to get home

a question I have always wondered, why do people feel the need to drive at 160kmph - 200kmph?? whats the purpose? I could never understand why I used to drive fast, I quit it, maybe someone could throw some light on it

I hope the truck driver and all the other drivers involved in yesterdays misfortune make a full and speedy recovery.

paraletic · 08-04-2010 08:58PM

i am a paramedic

i have had to scrape bodies of the dashboards, zip up the bags, etc etc.

it is always disturbing, and unnatural, to see bodies in that state (you saw the pics - dont forget skin and bone is much softer than a car, it brakes, shatterss, tears, etc)
if you are lucky you will be killed quick - if not you may meet the nice ambulance crews and fire fighters. maybe you will get to live for the rest of your short life in agony, pissing yourself, crying.

nobody thinks that they are going to crash - but people do!! even on motorways (maybe they think they are great drivers, i don't know) but no matter how good you are, or how many safety things your car has, your neck snaps the same as a poor driver.

if you crash at speed - sober or drunk. it is your own fault. but don't take out any one else.

enjoy driving, but a good driver is a careful and courtious driver, not a fast one!!:)

paraletic · 08-04-2010 09:17PM

bigbadbear wrote: »

....contrary to what gay byrne may say speed does not kill: crashing kills. I would love to take a powerful car and drive on a motorway for 50 miles at 200km/h+ and show the non believers that it is not dangerous. Its actually very very simple!

What made the blue car crash? The whole point of my post is to highlight that motorways are different to roads. There are no trees to crash into! There are no obstacles like children running out or cars pulling out of side roads to make you crash in the first place.

at 200kph on a motor way, you can crash and die (or even at 80kph on a motorway), - there are obstacles, like cars pulling out to make you crash.

also the family of the dead don't care what kind of road it is.

:)dont show the non believers, just slow down, whats the rush any way?
- but i do believe you - it is a 'simple' thing to do. -

Terrontress · 10-04-2010 01:37PM

Zambia232 wrote: »

What happens to this car

After hitting a tree at 140-160Kmph is this

There was 5 people put 6 feet under as a result of this crash. I drive by the site every day. The force of this impact felled the tree it collided with of a size of the tree behind the SES volunteer

While the damage of the crash was undoubtedly great, I'd imagine the reason why there is no roof is because emergency fire and rescue crews cut it off.

You often see pictures saying "this is what will happen to your car if you crash it" and proceed to show something that has been opened like a can opener by firefighters.

I think it sends out the wrong message because it is disingenuous to suggest the impact caused the damage so why believe the rest of the statement?

TylerIE · 10-04-2010 03:18PM

bigbadbear wrote: »

I hate boy racers. They endanger others and don't care. They also make my insurance high :mad: but contrary to what gay byrne may say speed does not kill: crashing kills. I would love to take a powerful car and drive on a motorway for 50 miles at 200km/h+ and show the non believers that it is not dangerous. Its actually very very simple!

Zambia, What made the blue car crash? The whole point of my post is to highlight that motorways are different to roads. There are no trees to crash into! There are no obstacles like children running out or cars pulling out of side roads to make you crash in the first place.

Theres is other road users, granny drivers, slow trucks, boy racers, broken down vehicles, drivers who stop or change speed or direction suddenly plus animals, boxes, tyres, stray traffic cones, bumpers of the last idiots car and of course the stray children, alzheimers / dementia / psychiatric patients all of which regularly find their way onto Irish Motorways...

At 120kmh on any road in daylight your on top of a hazard such as that before you realise whats going on - at 160kmh you havnt a hope... If you drive as much as you appear to you are bound to see these hazards regularly... ergo speed causes crashes which do kill

Zambia · 10-04-2010 09:35PM

Terrontress wrote: »

While the damage of the crash was undoubtedly great, I'd imagine the reason why there is no roof is because emergency fire and rescue crews cut it off.

They cut the roof of to remove the bodies , no disagreement there.

Terrontress wrote: »

You often see pictures saying "this is what will happen to your car if you crash it"

This is what happened to that car when it was crashed at 140-160 kmph

Terrontress wrote: »

I think it sends out the wrong message because it is disingenuous to suggest the impact caused the damage so why believe the rest of the statement?

The I never said the impact caused the seen damage. The fact the car hit a pole caused the damage and the resulting fire crew action. So the example is true the car did actually split in half from the impact prior to any fire crew action.

I don't know where your coming from with this its a simple example.

-Corkie- · 10-04-2010 09:38PM

paraletic wrote: »

i am a paramedic

i have had to scrape bodies of the dashboards, zip up the bags, etc etc.

it is always disturbing, and unnatural, to see bodies in that state (you saw the pics - dont forget skin and bone is much softer than a car, it brakes, shatterss, tears, etc)
if you are lucky you will be killed quick - if not you may meet the nice ambulance crews and fire fighters. maybe you will get to live for the rest of your short life in agony, pissing yourself, crying.

nobody thinks that they are going to crash - but people do!! even on motorways (maybe they think they are great drivers, i don't know) but no matter how good you are, or how many safety things your car has, your neck snaps the same as a poor driver.

if you crash at speed - sober or drunk. it is your own fault. but don't take out any one else.

enjoy driving, but a good driver is a careful and courtious driver, not a fast one!!:)

I think that should be post of the year. When you hear people like this talkin it dont be long making you think.....

746watts · 10-04-2010 09:43PM

maybe unmarked car was following a druggie, gathering movements etc?

Kormeera X · 15-04-2010 09:19AM

i was on the motorway last night, around 8 or 9, and there was a yellow reg car on front. The fella on front of us kept going from one lane to the other and we were very close to him. Eventually we got ahead of him and i looked back at the car and there were three youngfella's in it. The fella who was driving was asleep at the wheel! i swear! he was either drunk or on gear. I even looked again to make sure i wasnt seeing things, he was deffentily asleep!! :eek:

punchdrunk · 15-04-2010 10:02AM

Kormeera X wrote: »

i was on the motorway last night, around 8 or 9, and there was a yellow reg car on front. The fella on front of us kept going from one lane to the other and we were very close to him. Eventually we got ahead of him and i looked back at the car and there were three youngfella's in it. The fella who was driving was asleep at the wheel! i swear! he was either drunk or on gear. I even looked again to make sure i wasnt seeing things, he was deffentily asleep!! :eek:

did you ring the Guards?

Kormeera X · 16-04-2010 09:00AM

no, we ended up getting away from him lucky enough. I hope nothing happened though.

parsi · 17-04-2010 04:33PM

Kormeera X wrote: »

no, we ended up getting away from him lucky enough. I hope nothing happened though.

So you knew there was something up,
you "hope nothing happened",
but you didn't bother reporting the incident ?

The mind boggles.

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