Obama cancels moon project

hal9000 · 09-04-2010 02:49PM

aidan24326 wrote: »

Though it will be fascinating if life is ever discovered elsewhere, it will also be dangerous. An alien microbe could be lethal to us and would need to be handled with extreme care.

Mental Note: Make sure to wash hands before and after meeting with alien dignitaries or bacteria

MaybeLogic · 09-04-2010 02:59PM

For the old skoolers...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USUHAaPt9X0

Zulu · 09-04-2010 02:59PM

aidan24326 wrote: »

An alien microbe could be lethal to us....

That, or it could be wonderful granting me all the powers I could imagine, and more!!!

I kill you. I kill you all with death beams that fire from my belly button. Muwahahahahahaha

mike65 · 09-04-2010 03:02PM

If we are ever going to get to Mars then we have to go back to the moon as that is where the mission to Mars would actually be based. Getting a craft off Earth that could reach Mars would be very nearly impossible due to its sheer weight, not an issue on or around the Moon.

That said you could do it cheaper, one man/woman on a one way journey. Any volunteers?

SugarHigh · 09-04-2010 03:06PM

Lux23 wrote: »

I think Space travel is a complete waste of money. How can we spend billions on looking at worms on Mars when people are starving to death everyday? I just think the whole thing is whacked and I am glad to see Obama be sensible about this crap, most Americans couldn't give a crap about it anyway.

If everyone had your atitude we never would have left out caves.:rolleyes:

The space race drove technological advancements like no other project in history. Discoveries are only possible by exploring.

SugarHigh · 09-04-2010 03:53PM

Over 40% of our economy (i.e. the money for health etc.) generated by our knowledge base. Investment = growth

Prof Brian Cox

opinion guy · 09-04-2010 03:58PM

MaybeLogic wrote: »

For the old skoolers...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USUHAaPt9X0

Good Holy Jesus that was annoying

SugarHigh wrote: »

If everyone had your atitude we never would have left out caves.:rolleyes:

The space race drove technological advancements like no other project in history. Discoveries are only possible by exploring.

Hmmm actually no. Althou not so much "projects", probably WW1 and WW2 drove tech advancements more than anything else. Even the space race was built upon the V2 rocket program and recovered German engineers and tech was the driving force behind both US and Soviet rocket programs so far as I know.

cleremy jarkson · 09-04-2010 04:17PM

I think we as a species really should prioritise sorting out the problems of the developing world before we start indulging in this bullshít of going into space.

Podge_irl · 09-04-2010 04:22PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN-gR9040fw

ScumLord · 09-04-2010 04:36PM

cleremy jarkson wrote: »

I think we as a species really should prioritise sorting out the problems of the developing world before we start indulging in this bullshít of going into space.

One of the major problems facing the 3rd world is over population. Moving people into space would solve that problem.

Zulu · 09-04-2010 04:44PM

cleremy jarkson wrote: »

I think we as a species really should prioritise sorting out the problems of the developing world

We never will, and we've a first world to make sure of that. Welcome to capitalism.

hooradiation · 09-04-2010 04:45PM

cleremy jarkson wrote: »

I think we as a species really should prioritise sorting out the problems of the developing world before we start indulging in this bullshít of going into space.

Where do people get this idea what if we're exploring space (or building the LHC or whatever) that we're incapable of doing ANYTHING ELSE?

We can do both, cut the bullshit false dichotomy nonsense.

09-04-2010 04:47PM

The US federal deficit is rising so fast that it will reach the Moon before any future space ship.

goose2005 · 09-04-2010 05:12PM

Fago! wrote: »

Actually, the first species in space was a dog named Laika!!!

Fuggin space noobz!!!!

there were probably some bacteria stuck to Sputnik.

Flying Abruptly · 09-04-2010 05:16PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

They also found an Island in the South Pacific which had been previously upmapped.

To think there is a place on our OWN PLANET which we didn't know was there before, imagine what we could find in the Universe.

Its probably the island from LOST! :pac:

Overheal · 09-04-2010 05:25PM

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

The US federal deficit is rising so fast that it will reach the Moon before any future space ship.

Deficits go down - won't it sooner collide with the Mole People?

09-04-2010 05:27PM

Overheal wrote: »

Deficits go down - won't it sooner collide with the Mole People?

Have you heard of all the stacks of IOU's they plan to give people on social security rather than checks? That stack will reach the Moon too!

And just think if they strung all the unemployed workers end-to-end?

jill_valentine · 09-04-2010 05:30PM

SugarHigh wrote: »

Prof Brian Cox

I think the good professor is needed badly in this thread, yes.

If anybody missed his extraordinary show Wonders of the Solar System, for the last few weeks, you are to turn in your internet connection to the nearest authority immediately.

I used to dismiss the space programs as a silly waste of money, but more than anybody else, his arguments have changed my mind.

strobe · 09-04-2010 05:31PM

Dave! wrote: »

Starvation isn't due to lack of money -- there's plenty of food and money to go around.

It's posts like this that make me wish I could thank more than once.

The_Minister · 09-04-2010 05:31PM

aidan24326 wrote: »

Though it will be fascinating if life is ever discovered elsewhere, it will also be dangerous. An alien microbe could be lethal to us and would need to be handled with extreme care.

Tbh, life on this planet is so old and evolved, and our habitats so varied that I really doubt that a simple lifeform from the dust of Mars would be able to compete.

Arthur C. Clarke has a great short story about explorers who go to Venus and accidentally wipe out all life there.

AlmightyCushion · 09-04-2010 05:48PM

Lux23 wrote: »

I think Space travel is a complete waste of money. How can we spend billions on looking at worms on Mars when people are starving to death everyday? I just think the whole thing is whacked and I am glad to see Obama be sensible about this crap, most Americans couldn't give a crap about it anyway.

Then you should actually be disappointed with Obama. While he canacelled the constellation program he actually increased NASAs budget. He wants them to start developing better technologies for manned space flight such as VASMIR. I'm a big space nut and while it is disappointing to see the shuttles be retired and to see the constellation program be cancelled, it's good to see NASA focusing on other technologies. A VASMIR powered shuttle could get us to mars in 39 days instead of the 4/5 months a traditional rocket would take.

Long term it's a good thing for space exploration, we need to start putting money behind alternatives to rocket propulsion I just wish NASA had a much bigger budget, they do some amazing work.

Going off topic here but for anyone interested in all things space-like read up about betelgeuse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse). It's a stupidly massive star in the orion constellation and if it was in the centre of our solar system it would stretch out past mars that's how big it is. Apparently it looks like it's gonna supernova soonish as well and if it did it be the brightest thing in the night sky and would be visible for about a year or two.

orourkeda · 09-04-2010 06:11PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCW9Hey6IVY

cleremy jarkson · 09-04-2010 07:23PM

hooradiation wrote: »

Where do people get this idea what if we're exploring space (or building the LHC or whatever) that we're incapable of doing ANYTHING ELSE?

We can do both, cut the bullshit false dichotomy nonsense.

I've noticed this before; most of your posts are venomous and snapping pieces of writing. Calm down please.

opinion guy · 09-04-2010 08:01PM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Going off topic here but for anyone interested in all things space-like read up about betelgeuse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse). It's a stupidly massive star in the orion constellation and if it was in the centre of our solar system it would stretch out past mars that's how big it is. Apparently it looks like it's gonna supernova soonish as well and if it did it be the brightest thing in the night sky and would be visible for about a year or two.

Define "soonish". How many centuries will we all be dead when this happens ?

Agricola · 09-04-2010 08:06PM

opinion guy wrote: »

Define "soonish". How many centuries will we all be dead when this happens ?

Its hundreds of light years away. Its possibly exploded already!

AlmightyCushion · 09-04-2010 08:30PM

opinion guy wrote: »

Define "soonish". How many centuries will we all be dead when this happens ?

It's hard to say. It's roughly 600 light years away which means the light that left it 600 years ago is only reaching us now. It may go supernova sometime with in the next 1000 years. There is a possibility that we may see it in our lifetime by which I mean that the light from the supernova has traveled all the way to earth.

dlofnep · 09-04-2010 08:36PM

Lux23 wrote: »

I think Space travel is a complete waste of money. How can we spend billions on looking at worms on Mars when people are starving to death everyday? I just think the whole thing is whacked and I am glad to see Obama be sensible about this crap, most Americans couldn't give a crap about it anyway.

A day will come - when our only chance for survival will be on whether or not, we have the potential to getting off this planet, and migrating elsewhere.

Conquering Space should be one of the prime objectives of the human species.

MrStuffins · 09-04-2010 08:49PM

dlofnep wrote: »

A day will come - when our only chance for survival will be on whether or not, we have the potential to getting off this planet, and migrating elsewhere.

Conquering Space should be one of the prime objectives of the human species.

Possibly!

Although i agree with all kinds of polution! What happens when the all-conquering alien species come in their massive Mother Ship along with thousands of smaller ships to exterminate us and take our planet for their own?

They'll get here and say "F*ck this, this planet is in a jocker! Let's just go to Omicron Persei 8". Leaving us all to live happily ever after and making Roland Emmerich no longer a movie-making hack, but a great visionary!

hooradiation · 09-04-2010 09:00PM

cleremy jarkson wrote: »

I've noticed this before; most of your posts are venomous and snapping pieces of writing. Calm down please.

I've noticed this before, most people when called out on their terrible opinions change the subject.

MrStuffins · 09-04-2010 09:13PM

hooradiation wrote: »

Where do people get this idea what if we're exploring space (or building the LHC or whatever) that we're incapable of doing ANYTHING ELSE?

We can do both, cut the bullshit false dichotomy nonsense.

The world is run by men, men can't multi-task!

You silly billy!

Obama cancels moon project

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