Organ Donation

The only way to ensure you never lose the card is to tattoo it on your body somewhere. I've signed them things countless times and always lose them, I don't have a wallet or a credit card and don't intend to ever have either of them things.

I think there's very simple way to convince someone to carry a card.

If you're not willing to donate, then you're not allowed to receive. Has to be a level playing field, can't have people taking without giving.

hooradiation wrote: »

what did I *just* say!

How many people do you think will read through the first 3 pages before posting their opinion on the matter?

Ye, there's your answer.

hooradiation wrote: »

You realise that's essentially blackmail, right?

No more than the lotto insisting you buy a ticket if you want to stand a chance of winning.

I have no problem with someone who doesn't want to donate organs, blood or anything else. I only have a problem, with someone who wants to take from the pot and not give.

Also, there's nothing vindictive about it. It's like an insurance policy. I buy in by having a donor card, I am compensated with organs in the event of a claim. If you want to make a claim you must have a policy, or perhaps you would like to justify someone who will only take from a scheme with no intention of contributing.

I have carried a donar card since i was 15, i did not tick to have my eyes donated everything else yes. I realised a while ago that its the corneas they take, well mine are shagggged any ways so they cant take them (corneal erosion)....lol.......

BUT I COULD NOT DONATE MY CHILDRENS ORGANS that i think would screw me up big time.

grindelwald wrote: »

I would not donate my childs organs but i would however let them have donated organs. Bad i know, i have every respect for parents who have donated their kids organs.


When my children reach an age where they can decide for themselves i would go by their choice, but they would have to be old enough to understand probably age 12 or 13.

I agree the the opt out rather than opt in.

im sorry i dont have kids but that sounds ridicolous you would rather another perons child dies than donate your own kids organs after they have no use for them anymore?

but for some reason the idea of one of my lungs/my heart whatever being in someone else's body after I die just seems.... weird.

oh well in that case just let the people who need them die

i dont see any problem with bribery / incentivisation for people who choose not to donate

people who are forced not to like overheal shouldnt be excluded obviously

hooradiation wrote: »

No, it is blackmail.

No its not. People have the right to choose. Either they are part of the solution or part of the problem. Either it is ok to share organs or it is not. If it is not okay to share your organs with me, then it is not ok for me to share mine with you.

hooradiation wrote:

You're holding potentially life saving organs to ransom unless they comply with your demands.

I am withholding organs from people who have said they would not like to be part of an organ donor scheme. They have opted out, of their own volition. They have effectively said that they have a moral opposition to sharing organs. That being the case, they wont want anyone else's organs, would they? Well of course they would, but like everyone else in this country they just want to take from the scheme, without having to get off they're arse and contribute.

hooradiation wrote: »

The whole idea is not to get everyone to donate it's to maximise the number of potential donors (as not everyone who has opted in would be a candidate for organs anyway), and this makes allowances for the fact that a % of the population will be ineligible anyway due to medical reasons or personal choice.

Well obviously someone who's organs are unsuitable wouldn't be harvested. The fact that they were prepared to share in the first place is enough to qualify them for replacments.

hooradiation wrote: »

Punishing people in the way you describe is not only contrary to the idea of medicine but also just spiteful.

The 'punishment' is entirely in the hands of those who consider their own body too sacred to be touched, but would have no problem taking one of my kidneys if they fall ill.

I am just sick of the Irish attitude of 'what's in it for me?' Everyone wants something from the system but wouldn't dream of making the system better. Just gouging out enough for themselves, screw everyone else.

this unleashed a **** load of issues with my two girls, the eldest was so against it, i have used her as my next of kin since she turned 18, she was saying no way, my youngest now 19 is my next of kin and she is happy with my decision, she also carries a card and im ok with that, i believe if you can give back do,

Follow the Spanish system. Your organs are someone elses unless you carry the card saying thier not.

Id like to be a donor, but it has never dawned on me to get or to carry a card.

Does anyone know where you actually get organ donor cards and what restrictions are on them? e.g. I have both Coeliac Disease and Haemochromatosis, would I be able to get one? On the latter, I enquired once if the blood I got taken out of me could be donated, apparently no, it has to be destroyed.

Personally, I would want my organs donated and I would trust my next of kin to do so. They could be of use for transplants and research etc. and I wouldn't be needing them anyway!

I think that it should be opt out rather than opt in. I think that even though if someone was to opt in, their next of kin should not be able to overrule their decision.

I would disagree to the opinion that if you will not donate you should not be able to receive as some don't meet the requirements etc.

ScumLord wrote: »

It's at the top of the page, you can at least read the two posts above you.

Not everyone's thread viewing settings are the same. I have mine on 30 posts per page so your post is on the page before.