Nine charged with irish teenagers death

Kiera · 30-03-2010 12:01PM

seamus wrote: »

Here's a more local, if annoyingly american source:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/01/24/the_untouchable_mean_girls/

O’Brien is thinking about going to that meeting and suggesting that they have the kids who bullied Phoebe look at the autopsy photos.

“Let them see what a kid who hung herself looks like,’’ he said.

I dont think they'd care tbh. Cant believe they're still in school and nothing has been done about it. Truly heartbreaking.

podgemonster · 30-03-2010 12:06PM

CNN said this,

Though initial news reports blamed Prince's suicide on cyberbullying, Scheibel said the students' actions were "primarily conducted on school grounds during school hours and while school was in session." She said any use of electronic social networks was secondary to "commonly understood bullying methods."

The girl was harassed in the library, in the halls, on the way home and in her home via facebook.
Its seem pretty clear that she did have a relationship with another student 6 weeks earlier and that was enough for this group of animals to turn on her.

And it is true that they continued to mock and ridicule her after her death, no remorse, no guilt. This is awful.

Id like to think that this school is an exception but we all know that it is not!

Sentences for and criminal records for the accused is what i'd like to see! Maybe cancel their Prom, that always seems to be the highlight of their sad existance.

prinz · 30-03-2010 12:09PM

bazmaiden wrote: »

But she should be able to log in whenever she wants without being harrased...

Yes she should, but that's not the point. My OH should be able to feel safe walking alone at nights in parts of Dublin. She doesn't. We all should be able to do a lot of things, but we can't. So we take precautions.

This is a horrible story, but everyone who takes it as given in the US should remember that bullying is happening day and day out in this country, between kids and adults.

Gummy Panda · 30-03-2010 12:16PM

I usually find these bullies in hunt in packs and are weak & pathetic on their own.

They feed their egos with someone else's suffer until they pick on the wrong person.

Kiera · 30-03-2010 12:26PM

Gummy Panda wrote: »

I usually find these bullies in hunt in packs and are weak & pathetic on their own.

They feed their egos with someone else's suffer until they pick on the wrong person.

The second you stand up to idiots like this they back down. They're nothing without their little pack.

BaZmO* · 30-03-2010 12:26PM

Kev37 wrote: »

Just on the statutory rape charges I assume the two boys charged planned to have sex with her in order to be able to tell everyone she was a slut and target her?

Absolutely horrible if true.

Is that assumption based on watching Carrie too many times?

I'd say it's more likely that the guy(s) had sex with her because they could. And the fact that she was under age makes it statutory rape.

Ironically enough the same social networking site that they used to bully her has posted pictures of some of the people involved.

Jaxxy · 30-03-2010 12:28PM

seamus wrote: »

No, not everyone only a handful of complete scumbags. They also posted abusive/congratulatory messages after she'd killed herself.

They're dirt of the lowest order.

This is a prime example of the horrors of the mob mentality. Once they have the numbers they feel safer, and obviously now completely devoid of guilt. They will soon realise that not only have they ruined and subsequently caused this girl to end her life, but their lives are due to take a severe downhill slide. I'm thankful that some of the names have been released, and I hope that this goes on all of their permanent records.

There is something very wrong with those children. It's despicable and now I find myself fearing for my little cousin who is due to start middle school in FL next year.

Kiera · 30-03-2010 12:29PM

BaZmO* wrote: »

Is that assumption based on watching Carrie too many times?

I'd say it's more likely that the guy(s) had sex with her because they could. And the fact that she was under age makes it statutory rape.

Ironically enough the same social networking site that they used to bully her has posted pictures of some of the people involved.

I have no clue about FB, is it modded? As in, is there an option to report comments/emails?

IvyTheTerrible · 30-03-2010 12:29PM

Kiera wrote: »

I have no clue about FB, is it modded? As in, is there an option to report comments/emails?

Yeah you can report comments and emails, I don't know how quick they are to act on reports though.

mikom · 30-03-2010 12:47PM

pickarooney wrote: »

I don't understand how you can be bullied by Facebook. .

Ahhhh...... Johnny has set you a happyslap via Farmville.
Do you wish to accept it.

SlabMurphy · 30-03-2010 01:32PM

Kiera wrote: »

The second you stand up to idiots like this they back down. They're nothing without their little pack.

Easier said than that. Whatever for girls/women, for lads the bullies tend to be older/larger. If a bloke risks it by standing up to one and physically comes off second best, life is made much, much worse for him.

Another thing about this happening in America, I'm sure a young American can be on the receiving end of nasty comments when they come over here. Mel Gibson spoke of this when his family moved to Australia from America as a teenager and how he faced a terrible time about been a " yank " unitl he lost his accent.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 30-03-2010 01:47PM

Poor girl, RIP...

Scum of the earth done this, may they have a terrible terrible life for what they have done.

chuky_r_law · 30-03-2010 02:05PM

looks like someone is in denial

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1243311&format=comments#CommentsArea

'strong values' me arse

ejmaztec · 30-03-2010 02:37PM

Here's the nice school's website. The school's working mission obviously isn't working too well.

http://shschools.com/shhs/shhs.htm

Our Working Mission:

"We pledge to create a challenging and supportive academic community in which each student will acquire the knowledge and skills needed to successfully pursue post-secondary options of their choice and act as a responsible citizen in a diverse and global society."

Bonito · 30-03-2010 02:47PM

Kiera wrote: »

The second you stand up to idiots like this they back down. They're nothing without their little pack.

QFT. They may bully you when you're younger but when you wise up as you get older and have a proper look at them you realise they're nothing but snivelling little fúcks protected in their little group. Catching them on their own they wont even raise their head to you. It always comes to the day where they will mess with the wrong person and have their arses handed back to them while they run home licking their wounds and crying to their mammy.

ejmaztec · 30-03-2010 03:01PM

chuky_r_law wrote: »

looks like someone is in denial

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1243311&format=comments#CommentsArea

'strong values' me arse

There aren't many parents who would admit that their "angel" of a child is an obnoxious, shallow and retarded fuckwit.

I knew a guy years ago in the UK, who was driven home on a regular basis in the back of a police car, but he was never guilty of anything according to his mother. On one occasion, he was caught behind the wheel of a car that he and his pals nicked, and even then his mother said it was the other lads' fault, and that they had forced him to drive it. The guy was an out and out little sh1t.

LittleBook · 30-03-2010 03:02PM

Statement from Northwestern DA

"Contrary to previously published reports, Phoebe’s harassment was common knowledge to most of the South Hadley High School student body. The investigation has revealed that certain faculty, staff and administrators of the high school also were alerted to the harassment of Phoebe Prince before her death. Prior to Phoebe’s death, her mother spoke with at least two school staff members about the harassment Phoebe had reported to her."

For crying out loud, what's the point in teaching kids to report bullying if the "grown-ups" can't/won't deal with it!

L.Jenkins · 30-03-2010 03:11PM

pickarooney wrote: »

In before Kim Wilde

I don't understand how you can be bullied by Facebook. If people are sending you messages surely you would just unfriendalise them or, you know, stop logging in all the time.

How about real life, it's not so easy to avoid!!!

Fuhrer wrote: »

Yes because you can block people and unfriend them in real life...

:mad: As a teenager in a horrible ****ty situation, how is this possible when you attend the same school and there always in your face.

Bonito wrote: »

QFT. They may bully you when you're younger but when you wise up as you get older and have a proper look at them you realise they're nothing but snivelling little fúcks protected in their little group. Catching them on their own they wont even raise their head to you. It always comes to the day where they will mess with the wrong person and have their arses handed back to them while they run home licking their wounds and crying to their mammy.

Freaks like that will never say shit outside the protection of there little social group and will make sure to look over there shoulder because they know the consequences. Any person who bullied me as a teen, I gladly kick the shit out of them outside a hospital of there choice!

mojesius · 30-03-2010 03:12PM

Bonito wrote: »

QFT. They may bully you when you're younger but when you wise up as you get older and have a proper look at them you realise they're nothing but snivelling little fúcks protected in their little group. Catching them on their own they wont even raise their head to you. It always comes to the day where they will mess with the wrong person and have their arses handed back to them while they run home licking their wounds and crying to their mammy.

I agree but it's very difficult to see the light at the end of the tunnel if you're being bombarded with this crap day in day out. I'm thankful that social network sites weren't around in my day, some of girls in my school were right little b*tches (still are when I have the misfortune of running into them). We had a student-run 'anti-bullying committee' but the reality is that most bullying went completely unreported.

This poor girl had the added pressure of fitting into a new culture, a new school. Yes, the kids involved deserved to be punished but across the board, there needs to be major changes to stop this from happening - a strict zero tolerance policy, an open culture of communication within schools, a mentoring scheme with older pupils/ teachers, immediate expulsion. And of course, parents need to be very vigliant not to confuse visible behavioral changes, such as depression with adolescent growing pains. This is not purely an issue bred within American society. It is rampant in Ireland too.

L.Jenkins · 30-03-2010 03:17PM

If I were a parent of a child subjected to this sort of carry on which could potentially lead to suicide, I would go fucking balubass!!!! If the situation wouldn't drive me to kill, then I'd bankrupt myself using every legal process to make them all suffer!

Fighting Irish · 30-03-2010 03:31PM

Melion wrote: »

The same as they would get if they had murdered her themselves.

:rolleyes:

Fuhrer · 30-03-2010 03:33PM

djhunter30 wrote: »

:mad: As a teenager in a horrible ****ty situation, how is this possible when you attend the same school and there always in your face.

Just click the unfriend button.

L.Jenkins · 30-03-2010 03:36PM

Fighting Irish wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Unfortunately, Murder and Manslaughter doesn't even come into as it would imply they were directly involved in her death. Before someone says it, suicide as a result couldn't be any more direct besides literally murdering the poor girl, but they would had to have handed her the rope!

Melion · 30-03-2010 03:37PM

Fighting Irish wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Amazing insight

Melion · 30-03-2010 03:38PM

Fuhrer wrote: »

Just click the unfriend button.

Is there a reason you are still posting in this thread?

You obviously dont have an interest and are just trying to be funny and failing miserably.

Fuhrer · 30-03-2010 03:42PM

Melion wrote: »

Is there a reason you are still posting in this thread?

You obviously dont have an interest and are just trying to be funny and failing miserably.

Any reason why in a thread about someone commiting suicide over being bullied on the internet you have to keep up your internet tough guy persona?

L.Jenkins · 30-03-2010 03:45PM

Melion wrote: »

Is there a reason you are still posting in this thread?

You obviously dont have an interest and are just trying to be funny and failing miserably.

No point feeding the troll!!!! Can we start a thread in R&R based on the associated article and vent our fury and mal intent for those individual wastes of human life and precious oxygen!

Melion · 30-03-2010 03:46PM

Fuhrer wrote: »

Any reason why in a thread about someone commiting suicide over being bullied on the internet you have to keep up your internet tough guy persona?

What?

L.Jenkins · 30-03-2010 03:48PM

Melion wrote: »

Is there a reason you are still posting in this thread?

You obviously dont have an interest and are just trying to be funny and failing miserably.

Melion wrote: »

What?

He's a troll and he's hungery!!!

Fighting Irish · 30-03-2010 03:49PM

Melion wrote: »

Amazing insight

OK, i'm dead against bullying, i'm also dead against suicide, i'm also a huge fan of survival of the fittest