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Gay couple turned away from B&B

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  • #62
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    My point exactly, if they werent quite clearly defined as being gay, the owner would not have mentioned a thing and may not have known about their type of relationship until the morning after, or not at all even! Privacy is something of value and the so called 'gays' hated being 'in the closet' about it, then they come out and hate the stick they get? If it was all private, nobody would be harmed and everyone happy, as long as being gay was recognised but didn't have to be bluntly known to everyone!

    Should have they arrived separately? The issue was they were both men and it was a double bed, they didn't have the gimp mask (yet) on AFAIK


  • #63
    Millicent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    My point exactly, if they werent quite clearly defined as being gay, the owner would not have mentioned a thing and may not have known about their type of relationship until the morning after, or not at all even! Privacy is something of value and the so called 'gays' hated being 'in the closet' about it, then they come out and hate the stick they get? If it was all private, nobody would be harmed and everyone happy, as long as being gay was recognised but didn't have to be bluntly known to everyone!

    Wait, I posted before I saw that post. You're saying they should act as if they have something to be ashamed of and be closeted again about it? Why the fuck should they?

    Who honestly, in this day and age, gives two craps whether two people who love or fancy each other are the same gender? Why the hell should they get stick for that?


  • #64
    Midnight_EG
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    efb wrote: »
    Should have they arrived separately? The issue was they were both men and it was a double bed, they didn't have the gimp mask (yet) on AFAIK
    So you're assuming that two men turning up at a B&B looking for a bed comes across as gay, immediately, with no thought?


  • #65
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,849 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Millicent wrote: »
    Wait, I posted before I saw that post. You're saying they should act as if they have something to be ashamed of and be closeted again about it? Why the fuck should they?

    Who honestly, in this day and age, gives two craps whether two people who love or fancy each other are the same gender? Why the hell should they get stick for that?
    No no, you took it the wrong way :rolleyes:


  • #66
    efb
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    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    So you're assuming that two men turning up at a B&B looking for a bed comes across as gay, immediately, with no thought?

    She made reference to the double bed, did you read the article?


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  • #67
    Tail Wagger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Tail Wagger


    Sure a gay couple at 62 & 56 respectively, what are they going to do in a B&B,
    Wreck it.....
    I'd be more worried about two gay guys in their 20s, being drunk and disorderly and annoying other guests. Some people will never move on!


  • #68
    Millicent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    No no, you took it the wrong way :rolleyes:

    How did I take it the wrong way? Why do they have to be "private" about it?

    And don't roll your eyes at me, it's bloody rude! :D


  • #69
    Degsy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    efb wrote: »
    She made reference to the double bed, did you read the article?


    B&B owners dont care about two men sharing a double bed..they will happily cram as many people in as they can for the cash..the complainant obvioulsy indicated to her that they were gay and this must've triggered her latent prejudice.


  • #70
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,849 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    efb wrote: »
    She made reference to the double bed, did you read the article?
    I did, yes, and the fact she assumed it straight away then turned them away changes nothing?
    Millicent wrote: »
    How did I take it the wrong way? Why do they have to be "private" about it?
    No, they campaigned so much to be known, then get embarassed and hide away again when 'being gay' is called out? I don't mean for them to be private, I mean it shouldnt have to be known to everybody about someones personal sexuality, which brings on the insults as such.


  • #71
    The Big Red Button
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    Regardless of what the law says on this, I think it's fair enough that you should be allowed make your own decisions on who stays in your home. I completely disagree with her reasons for refusing the men, but I think that it's fair enough really that she shouldn't have someone stay in her home if she's not comfortable having that person/people under her roof - for whatever reason. I know that they were going to be paying for staying there, but B&Bs are not like hotels, they don't have security etc. If it was my own mother running a B&B, I'd like to think that she'd be under no obligation to allow people sleep there unless she felt happy and comfortable about it.

    Having said all that, if you're going to be that closed-minded and judgemental and irrational, then hospitality is not a good business to be in - and I'm sure that this will have a negative impact on her business!

    I've often stayed in B&Bs around Ireland with my fiancé, and in two seperate places the "landlady" made a point of asking if we were married, and hummed and hawed a bit about letting us stay in the same room. I didn't get all righteous and go demanding our "rights" or whatever - it's their home. And while I sympathise with the two men involved - it was a crap situation to get caught up in - I'm not really sure what they'd have hoped to achieve by going to the media with this. Some people are just set in their ways and nothing's going to change that.


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  • #72
    Millicent
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    Degsy wrote: »
    B&B owners dont care about two men sharing a double bed..they will happily cram as many people in as they can for the cash..the complainant obvioulsy indicated to her that they were gay and this must've triggered her latent prejudice.

    Nope, she refused them when it was clear they intended to share a bed. By her own admission.


  • #73
    Millicent
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    Midnight_EG wrote: »

    No, they campaigned so much to be known, then get embarassed and hide away again when 'being gay' is called out? I don't mean for them to be private, I mean it shouldnt have to be known to everybody about someones personal sexuality, which brings on the insults as such.

    Where are they hiding out? I'm sure if you walked down the street hand in hand with a girlfriend, people could infer your sexual preference. Who gives you stick? Would anybody? But two men walk hand in hand and they are flaunting their sexuality apparently. Double standards, no?


  • #74
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,849 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Millicent wrote: »
    Where are they hiding out? I'm sure if you walked down the street hand in hand with a girlfriend, people could infer your sexual preference. Who gives you stick? Would anybody? But two men walk hand in hand and they are flaunting their sexuality apparently. Double standards, no?
    Ahhh, not what I'm thinking at all!:P

    It's damn hard to explain without confrontation!


  • #75
    efb
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    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    I did, yes, and the fact she assumed it straight away then turned them away changes nothing?


    No, they campaigned so much to be known, then get embarassed and hide away again when 'being gay' is called out? I don't mean for them to be private, I mean it shouldnt have to be known to everybody about someones personal sexuality, which brings on the insults as such.

    She turned them away for being gay, and they shouldn't make an issue of this?

    They should go back in the closet and pretend that gayness doesn't exist maybe?


  • #76
    Millicent
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    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    Ahhh, not what I'm thinking at all!:P

    It's damn hard to explain without confrontation!

    Sorry, if I'm being confrontational, I apologise. Do explain it. I'm genuinely curious.


  • #77
    Midnight_EG
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    efb wrote: »
    She turned them away for being gay, and they shouldn't make an issue of this?

    They should go back in the closet and pretend that gayness doesn't exist maybe?
    See above post -.-


  • #78
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,849 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Millicent wrote: »
    Sorry, if I'm being confrontational, I apologise. Do explain it. I'm genuinely curious.
    No, as in I'd need to explain face to face, it's rather hard to convey every bit of thought in my head onto a messageboard.

    Nobody ever gets my way of thinking -.-


  • #79
    Millicent
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    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    No, as in I'd need to explain face to face, it's rather hard to convey every bit of thought in my head onto a messageboard.

    Nobody ever gets my way of thinking -.-

    Is it that you have a problem with the "out and proud" types? If you don't want to explain you don't have to but I'm baffled! :p


  • #80
    BongoJuice
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    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Whenever I'm staying in a double room in a B&B with my gay lover we just pretend he's my uncle and it's all ok.

    Seems to be the norm for the backward child-raping, inbred f*ckhead regions anyways.
    I never knew your uncle was in the christian brothers.


  • #81
    efb
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    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    No no, you took it the wrong way :rolleyes:

    On a lighter note, what is the right way to take it???:p


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  • #82
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,849 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Millicent wrote: »
    Is it that you have a problem with the "out and proud" types? If you don't want to explain you don't have to but I'm baffled! :p
    Well they can be quite annoying, but I have no problem with them?


    I have no problem with anyone usually :]



    Before anyone attacks, they can be annoying by flaunting so very much, liek trying to make it very obvious and looking for attention!


  • #83
    Millicent
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    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    Well they can be quite annoying, but I have no problem with them?


    I have no problem with anyone usually :]



    Before anyone attacks, they can be annoying by flaunting so very much, liek trying to make it very obvious and looking for attention!

    That's because, after years of being forced to hide away and feel ashamed, they want to shove it in people's faces to make them deal with the fact that gay people exist, have existed for millenia and aren't gonna go away.


  • #84
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,849 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Millicent wrote: »
    That's because, after years of being forced to hide away and feel ashamed, they want to shove it in people's faces to make them deal with the fact that gay people exist, have existed for millenia and aren't gonna go away.
    Therefore, people around for millenia are not a minority ;) :P


  • #85
    starbelgrade
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    efb wrote: »
    On a lighter note, what is the right way to take it???:p

    With a good smattering of lube, I'd imagine.


  • #86
    Millicent
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    Midnight_EG wrote: »
    Therefore, people around for millenia are not a minority ;) :P

    Ah, I see what you did there! :P They still are though. I think it's something like 1 in 10 people are gay so they're still in a minority.


  • #87
    Degsy
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    Millicent wrote: »
    Ah, I see what you did there! :P They still are though. I think it's something like 1 in 10 people are gay so they're still in a minority.


    Well obviously they're still a minority,if they ever became a majority the human race would die out.


  • #88
    Millicent
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    Degsy wrote: »
    Well obviously they're still a minority,if they ever became a majority the human race would die out.

    If only science could discover some way to artificially inseminate a woman, lest this ever happen... :eek::p


  • #89
    Mountainsandh
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    Hi people, and sorry to butt in but...
    I see lots of people saying : "this is her home, surely she can choose who she wants in her home, etc...".

    But really, a B&B is a business in your home, there's money changing hands. When you choose to make your home a business opportunity, surely you should have a good think beforehand, and consider what situations may arise, and whether you are willing to go for it.

    I would personnally hate to run a B&B. There are people I'd love to have staying at my house, and other people I'd hate to have around. There are people who would simply scare the youknowwhat of me, because they looked like a junky, or an ex-con, or whatever.
    Sooooo... well, I'm not opening a B&B anytime soon. Simple.

    If you decide to provide a service, you are committing yourself to providing a service to any potential customer.

    We've an old saying in French that says, you can't have the butter and the money from the butter. She made a choice. Open a B&B, provide a service.
    I would be furious if that happened to my gay friends. In fact, I'm furious just thinking about it. The cheek of her.


  • #90
    matc66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭matc66


    A business is a business whether it is Ikea or out of a cardboard box. From the point of view of the customer it is a B&B not her home. I'd imagine she doesn't have a leg to stand on.
    I'm sure she wasn't being malicious and felt quite uncomfortable turning them away. But that just isn't good enough.

    Also I'm sure legally it also wouldn't matter if they turned up wearing a leather g-string and waist coat.


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  • #91
    starbelgrade
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    matc66 wrote: »
    Also I'm sure legally it also wouldn't matter if they turned up wearing a leather g-string and waist coat.

    I think yr confusing B&B with S&M.


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