World population

BraziliaNZ · 23-03-2010 12:19AM

dont have kids or murder more kids than you have. Problem solved.

Cookie_Monster · 23-03-2010 12:21AM

don't put a cap as such on.

do a kind of reverse child benefit where the first kid is free, the 2nd means you have to pay 5% more tax, 3rd 15% more etc.

Financial pain is the only way people will go for it.

BraziliaNZ · 23-03-2010 12:23AM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

don't put a cap as such on.

do a kind of reverse child benefit where the first kid is free, the 2nd means you have to pay 5% more tax, 3rd 15% more etc.

Financial pain is the only way people will go for it.

no government will introduce this, they are not interested in the long term, only the short term i.e. money and getting elected again. Plus, with a massive ageing population and not many young people to work and pay taxes to look after them, where will they get the money?

For these reasons the world is doomed, and no one is going to do anything about it

m@cc@ · 23-03-2010 12:24AM

tbaymusicman wrote: »

Okay so with there being so many people alive in the world today and life expectancy greatly improved do you think there should be some sort of cap on the amount of children people can have ??

You mean like a diaphragm?

billymitchell · 23-03-2010 12:28AM

tbaymusicman wrote: »

Hi all this is just a random question thought why not let it be talked about in the after hours spot .

Okay so with there being so many people alive in the world today and life expectancy greatly improved do you think there should be some sort of cap on the amount of children people can have ??
I know in Europe it's not a major issue but in places like India and China and many other country's there is massive birth rates and slowing death rates so if the billion people in china were coupled and had a child each that would be another half billion and if the people in india were pared off and had a child that would be a few hundred million how does the world feed them :O:O

Im not a hippie or tree hugger just curious as to what will happen long after we have all died

46 :cool:

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 23-03-2010 12:29AM

We are but a blink of an eye on this planet and in this universe even less than that. Amazing isn't it?

Min · 23-03-2010 12:38AM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

don't put a cap as such on.

do a kind of reverse child benefit where the first kid is free, the 2nd means you have to pay 5% more tax, 3rd 15% more etc.

Financial pain is the only way people will go for it.

The Australian government told the nation to that couples should have three children, one for the mother, one for the father and one for their country.

m@cc@ · 23-03-2010 12:38AM

Avalyn Substantial Cursor wrote: »

We are but a blink of an eye on this planet and in this universe even less than that. Amazing isn't it?

The most amazing question ever posed is what started it all? (Yes, the Big Bang, but what caused that?)

starbelgrade · 23-03-2010 12:40AM

m@cc@ wrote: »

(Yes, the Big Bang, but what caused that?)

God farted. Scientific fact.

Sea Sharp · 23-03-2010 12:42AM

(Yes, the Big Bang, but what caused that?)

The big imaginary friend?

Min · 23-03-2010 12:43AM

m@cc@ wrote: »

The most amazing question ever posed is what started it all? (Yes, the Big Bang, but what caused that?)

A Belgian priest who came up with the theory.

cleremy jarkson · 23-03-2010 12:53AM

m@cc@ wrote: »

(Yes, the Big Bang, but what caused that?)

Our brains probably can't comprehend the answer to a question like that, assuming absolute, objective reality even exists.

sock puppet · 23-03-2010 01:08AM

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

no government will introduce this, they are not interested in the long term, only the short term i.e. money and getting elected again. Plus, with a massive ageing population and not many young people to work and pay taxes to look after them, where will they get the money?

For these reasons the world is doomed, and no one is going to do anything about it

Hold on. Ireland are barely at the replacement fertitlity rate, and dozens more countries are well below it.

BraziliaNZ · 23-03-2010 01:13AM

sock puppet wrote: »

Hold on. Ireland are barely at the replacement fertitlity rate, and dozens more countries are well below it.

I thought we were leading the pack in Europe for population growth

AlmightyCushion · 23-03-2010 01:22AM

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

I thought we were leading the pack in Europe for population growth

We are (or at least we were last time I checked) but we're really the best of a bad bunch. Our population growth still isn't high enough to replace our population though. I imagine our recent spurt of immigration has helped us though. If some of those foreigners stay and have families then it will be something we will be very thankful for in the future when every other EU country is being over run by old people.

BraziliaNZ · 23-03-2010 01:23AM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

We are (or at least we were last time I checked) but we're really the best of a bad bunch. Our population growth still isn't high enough to replace our population though. I imagine our recent spurt of immigration has helped us though. If some of those foreigners stay and have families then it will be something we will be very thankful for in the future when every other EU country is being over run by old people.

so you want the population of the world to keep increasing?

sock puppet · 23-03-2010 01:30AM

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

I thought we were leading the pack in Europe for population growth

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2127rank.html

To be honest I don't fully understand the differences between how the birth rate and fertility rates are calculated, but according to the CIA factbook, fertility rates have been in steady decline. High rates may be a problem for countries in which they exist, but from looking at that list not many of those countries would be considered major consumers of energy, so I'd guess any increase in their population would have a minimal impact on the environment.

23-03-2010 01:33AM

tbaymusicman wrote: »

Okay so with there being so many people alive in the world today and life expectancy greatly improved do you think there should be some sort of cap on the amount of children people can have ??

Just be sure to wear your "cap" the next time you are with her?

bnt · 23-03-2010 01:34AM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

FFS does nobdy pay attention

No, I guess they don't. Back on pg. 2 I tried to point out the fallacies in seeing overpopulation as a global, yes/no, live/die issue. I'd hope for more from life than mere survival - otherwise, how are we any better than animals?

AlmightyCushion · 23-03-2010 01:47AM

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

so you want the population of the world to keep increasing?

It's a catch 22 situation. If it doesn't the age of the average person will increase more and more until we have a lot more pensioners than we do working people to support them. In the extreme this could eventually lead to us dying off.

Huge population growth isn't ideal. Steady population growth would be best. This lets us replace our old with out massively increasing the amount of resources needed.

I imagine the earth can support a lot more than what is currently on it. If we went vegetarian that would greatly increase the amount of food we can produce as animals use a lot of food over their lifetime and don't give anywhere near the amount they use back. Plus our farming techniques are much better than they were 100 years ago and in 100 years time they'll be better again no doubt. If genetically modified foods ever get off the ground then this should make a big difference as well.

As for energy requirements, same as above. We make more efficient use of oil than we did when we first started using it. Plus we have nuclear fission now as well which is also becoming more efficient. If we ever manage to contain the massive heats that nuclear fusion creates (which I'd say we will) then that will greatly increase our energy production.

Physical space isn't too bad either as all we have to do is start building up instead of out. Much more efficient use of land which will let us cram more people into the planet.

This is all just using technology that we have now or are relatively close to putting to use. In 50 years time we'll have technology vastly superior to what we can even imagine now which will enable earth to support a much larger population than it currently can. Hell we could even be colonising other planets by then for all we know.

profitius · 23-03-2010 01:51AM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

We are (or at least we were last time I checked) but we're really the best of a bad bunch. Our population growth still isn't high enough to replace our population though. I imagine our recent spurt of immigration has helped us though. If some of those foreigners stay and have families then it will be something we will be very thankful for in the future when every other EU country is being over run by old people.

So we still NEED immigration? I thought that argument has been well settled by now.

bigbadbear · 23-03-2010 01:58AM

The world is going to run short of oil in our lifetime which will result in the price being so high that we cant use it for anything useful. If your car is burning oil your Fcuked! AAAAAnyway oil runs out - world goes into massive permanent recession- only countries to survive are the agricultural community based ones- THE WORLD IS FCUKED -AAAAAAAAGGGGGHHH

profitius · 23-03-2010 02:06AM

bigbadbear wrote: »

The world is going to run short of oil in our lifetime which will result in the price being so high that we cant use it for anything useful. If your car is burning oil your Fcuked! AAAAAnyway oil runs out - world goes into massive permanent recession- only countries to survive are the agricultural community based ones- THE WORLD IS FCUKED -AAAAAAAAGGGGGHHH

There'll be free energy from magnetic devices.
:cool:

Sheebs · 23-03-2010 02:23AM

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 23-03-2010 03:13AM

m@cc@ wrote: »

The most amazing question ever posed is what started it all? (Yes, the Big Bang, but what caused that?)

No idea, I don;t know enough about it to answer any questions on the theory, but I have more than enough friends that would love to give their answers and theories on the subject.

OutlawPete · 23-03-2010 03:51AM

Where does Space end?

AlmightyCushion · 23-03-2010 03:53AM

OutlawPete wrote: »

Where does Space end?

The alt gr button on my keyboard.

starbelgrade · 23-03-2010 03:56AM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

The alt gr button on my keyboard.

What the hell is that button for?

molloyjazz · 23-03-2010 04:05AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

What the hell is that button for?

€ áéíóú ..that kinda thing really.

OutlawPete · 23-03-2010 04:07AM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

The alt gr button on my keyboard.

Ahem ...

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