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Change the National Anthem, Amhrán na bhFiann??

  • 19-03-2010 04:53PM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭


    Sinne Fianna Fáil...... I know Fianna Fáil doesn't directly represent the party but I think it is national shame to have such words of national disgrace on our National anthem. The swastika represents many things but it is still banned in Germany. Surely if we are to collectivly move on as nation we must begin the cleaning process and as a symbolic act against this political entity we should remove references to it from our National Anthem.

    Not since the days of Oliver Cromwell and the Auxiliries (Black and Tans) has any group commited such acts against the Irish people and its economy. What we are witnessing is akin to the Nazi's theft of the Jewish wealth and art which ended up in Swiss banks. Ireland is being bankrupted while the developers and FF elite are creaming off enourmous sums of money at the expense of everyone else. :mad: Cronie Capitalism at its worst


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    It is utter sh1te alright.

    I'd prefer this:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Korvanica


    better than that song they use for rugby...

    although.....

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Nah, this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Noopti


    Bit of a confused topic.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭neil_hosey


    Our national anthem is brilliant and reflects what the country went through to achieve independence. The Sinne Fianna Fáil line does bother me although... there is an alternative version which starts like this "Sinne Laochra Fáil..." where laoch is hero... laochra is heroes.

    I vote a change!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Sinne Boards.ie, a tà .....

    etc etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Nah. Would just be another stupid tune played at the end of a dish-co (I'm old), where you'd get a dirty look for not standing up and being "faux patriotic". Me hole.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    I like the national anthem. The lyrics are, for the most part, irrelevant. Only a tiny minority of people actually understand them, and most people only sing the last line anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭gonnaplayrugby


    crap anthem. so boring. the beat is terrible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    RayM wrote: »
    I like the national anthem. The lyrics are, for the most part, irrelevant. Only a tiny minority of people actually understand them, and most people only sing the last line anyway.

    ....I usually add the words "play ball" at the end. Best results if shouted and extra points for an American accent.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I always shout gerangalway! At the end of the national anthem. I can't help it though I'm a bogger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    Would worry more about getting them out of power in the next election than getting them out of the national anthem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    How about "Sinne Tinna Foil"? At least you'd get the junkies singing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭Takk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭Irish Halo


    Nah keep it but use the original English lyrics and boom no reference to FF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭dRNk SAnTA


    Who cares


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,040 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    No, and if you think the lyrics of the national anthem have anything to do with the current political party, your post is laughable. ''Fianna'' means warriors/soldiers in old Irish. ''Fáil'' is an ancient word for Ireland, again in old Irish. Fianna Fáil, in the context of our national anthem, means nothing about Brian Cowen and his merry men but rather refers to brave Irish warriors fighting enemies from beyond the wave.

    Learn your history propely first, before making histrionic posts...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    DazMarz wrote: »
    No, and if you think the lyrics of the national anthem have anything to do with the current political party, your post is laughable. ''Fianna'' means warriors/soldiers in old Irish. ''Fáil'' is an ancient word for Ireland, again in old Irish. Fianna Fáil, in the context of our national anthem, means nothing about Brian Cowen and his merry men but rather refers to brave Irish warriors fighting enemies from beyond the wave.

    Learn your history propely first, before making histrionic posts...

    If you had read my post you would seen my immediate acknowledgement of it having multiple meanings. :rolleyes: I would suggest in future you read things before proceeding to criticise.

    Fianna Fail in Irish means Irish warriors but to over 95% of the population it represents a corrupt incompetent political party that has destroyed our economy and made life a misery for the population. I think it should be removed from the Anthem on these grounds.

    Gay meant happy and even previously straight, yet we don't hear it used in that context anymore.

    There are multiple examples and we need to upgrade our Anthem to represent modern meanings and language.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Stinicker wrote: »

    There are multiple examples and we need to upgrade our Anthem to represent modern meanings and language.

    Or we could stop wastign time on such trivial matters.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Noopti


    Stinicker wrote: »
    If you had read my post you would seen my immediate acknowledgement of it having multiple meanings. :rolleyes: I would suggest in future you read things before proceeding to criticise.

    Fianna Fail in Irish means Irish warriors but to over 95% of the population it represents a corrupt incompetent political party that has destroyed our economy and made life a misery for the population. I think it should be removed from the Anthem on these grounds.

    Gay meant happy and even previously straight, yet we don't hear it used in that context anymore.

    There are multiple examples and we need to upgrade our Anthem to represent modern meanings and language.

    No we don't. Most anthems reference a countries wars & history, so should all those anthems change because don't represent the modern & relevant?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    Bhí me ag deánamh gneás
    le do mhathair aréir
    bhí a faighin mar
    muincille driadóir.

    Ach níl sí chomh donna le harney,
    mar tá sí anna ramhar......

    ugh, too much effort....:P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    God save the queen wha?

    I hate you all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Tellox


    It's become a bit of a contradiction in itself. Mentioning Fianna Fail and moving on to state "we're children of a fighting race, that never once has known disgrace".. Fighting race? Ah shur, let's let FF run out their stay and dig the hole that little bit deeper. No use kickin up any stir. Anyone up for some dole-powered pints later?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭gonnaplayrugby


    i think the anthem should be irelands call becoz it has more emotion and means more :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,981 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    i think the anthem should be irelands call becoz it has more emotion and means more :)

    That song is a farce and means fuckin nothing.

    It's a sham, and a fraud and.........a sham.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭gonnaplayrugby


    a sham to who? i bet u dont even watch rugby like. its an anthem that all rugby lovers sing proudly and if you dont like it well thats your problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭sron


    Maybe like Britain we could work the current ruling party into the song, so depending on the results of an election the lyrics would read either

    Sinne Fianna Fail
    Sinne Fianna Gael
    Sinne La-a-bour
    Sinne Si-i-nn Fein
    Sinne Rainbow Coalition

    etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,981 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    a sham to who? i bet u dont even watch rugby like. its an anthem that all rugby lovers sing proudly and if you dont like it well thats your problem

    They sing it because they have no choice.

    It's a horrible tune with no history that was just put together because an alternative had to be played at games.

    And yes I do watch rugby, but don't acknowledge that ear sore.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭gonnaplayrugby


    my family love it and so do others i know.


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