Change the National Anthem, Amhrán na bhFiann??

Stinicker · 19-03-2010 03:53PM #1

Sinne Fianna Fáil...... I know Fianna Fáil doesn't directly represent the party but I think it is national shame to have such words of national disgrace on our National anthem. The swastika represents many things but it is still banned in Germany. Surely if we are to collectivly move on as nation we must begin the cleaning process and as a symbolic act against this political entity we should remove references to it from our National Anthem.

Not since the days of Oliver Cromwell and the Auxiliries (Black and Tans) has any group commited such acts against the Irish people and its economy. What we are witnessing is akin to the Nazi's theft of the Jewish wealth and art which ended up in Swiss banks. Ireland is being bankrupted while the developers and FF elite are creaming off enourmous sums of money at the expense of everyone else. :mad: Cronie Capitalism at its worst

Jesus Wept · 19-03-2010 03:55PM

It is utter sh1te alright.

I'd prefer this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wky5H1xC6-I

Korvanica · 19-03-2010 03:57PM

better than that song they use for rugby...

although.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI

chin_grin · 19-03-2010 03:59PM

Nah, this.

Noopti · 19-03-2010 03:59PM

Bit of a confused topic.....

neil_hosey · 19-03-2010 04:00PM

Our national anthem is brilliant and reflects what the country went through to achieve independence. The Sinne Fianna Fáil line does bother me although... there is an alternative version which starts like this "Sinne Laochra Fáil..." where laoch is hero... laochra is heroes.

I vote a change!

davyjose · 19-03-2010 04:03PM

Sinne Boards.ie, a tà .....

etc etc.

chin_grin · 19-03-2010 04:05PM

Nah. Would just be another stupid tune played at the end of a dish-co (I'm old), where you'd get a dirty look for not standing up and being "faux patriotic". Me hole.

RayM · 19-03-2010 04:06PM

I like the national anthem. The lyrics are, for the most part, irrelevant. Only a tiny minority of people actually understand them, and most people only sing the last line anyway.

gonnaplayrugby · 19-03-2010 04:09PM

crap anthem. so boring. the beat is terrible.

chin_grin · 19-03-2010 04:11PM

RayM wrote: »

I like the national anthem. The lyrics are, for the most part, irrelevant. Only a tiny minority of people actually understand them, and most people only sing the last line anyway.

....I usually add the words "play ball" at the end. Best results if shouted and extra points for an American accent.

ScumLord · 19-03-2010 04:14PM

I always shout gerangalway! At the end of the national anthem. I can't help it though I'm a bogger.

smellslikeshoes · 19-03-2010 04:16PM

Would worry more about getting them out of power in the next election than getting them out of the national anthem.

bonerm · 19-03-2010 04:18PM

How about "Sinne Tinna Foil"? At least you'd get the junkies singing.

Takk · 19-03-2010 04:24PM

Embedding disabled: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ2oXzrnti4

Irish Halo · 19-03-2010 04:28PM

Nah keep it but use the original English lyrics and boom no reference to FF.

dRNk SAnTA · 19-03-2010 04:29PM

Who cares

pickarooney · 19-03-2010 04:31PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWuUcAjuWjQ

DazMarz · 19-03-2010 04:36PM

No, and if you think the lyrics of the national anthem have anything to do with the current political party, your post is laughable. ''Fianna'' means warriors/soldiers in old Irish. ''Fáil'' is an ancient word for Ireland, again in old Irish. Fianna Fáil, in the context of our national anthem, means nothing about Brian Cowen and his merry men but rather refers to brave Irish warriors fighting enemies from beyond the wave.

Learn your history propely first, before making histrionic posts...

Stinicker · 19-03-2010 04:50PM

DazMarz wrote: »

No, and if you think the lyrics of the national anthem have anything to do with the current political party, your post is laughable. ''Fianna'' means warriors/soldiers in old Irish. ''Fáil'' is an ancient word for Ireland, again in old Irish. Fianna Fáil, in the context of our national anthem, means nothing about Brian Cowen and his merry men but rather refers to brave Irish warriors fighting enemies from beyond the wave.

Learn your history propely first, before making histrionic posts...

If you had read my post you would seen my immediate acknowledgement of it having multiple meanings. :rolleyes: I would suggest in future you read things before proceeding to criticise.

Fianna Fail in Irish means Irish warriors but to over 95% of the population it represents a corrupt incompetent political party that has destroyed our economy and made life a misery for the population. I think it should be removed from the Anthem on these grounds.

Gay meant happy and even previously straight, yet we don't hear it used in that context anymore.

There are multiple examples and we need to upgrade our Anthem to represent modern meanings and language.

Guy:Incognito · 19-03-2010 04:54PM

Stinicker wrote: »

There are multiple examples and we need to upgrade our Anthem to represent modern meanings and language.

Or we could stop wastign time on such trivial matters.

Noopti · 19-03-2010 04:54PM

Stinicker wrote: »

If you had read my post you would seen my immediate acknowledgement of it having multiple meanings. :rolleyes: I would suggest in future you read things before proceeding to criticise.

Fianna Fail in Irish means Irish warriors but to over 95% of the population it represents a corrupt incompetent political party that has destroyed our economy and made life a misery for the population. I think it should be removed from the Anthem on these grounds.

Gay meant happy and even previously straight, yet we don't hear it used in that context anymore.

There are multiple examples and we need to upgrade our Anthem to represent modern meanings and language.

No we don't. Most anthems reference a countries wars & history, so should all those anthems change because don't represent the modern & relevant?

Prof.Badass · 19-03-2010 04:59PM

Bhí me ag deánamh gneás
le do mhathair aréir
bhí a faighin mar
muincille driadóir.

Ach níl sí chomh donna le harney,
mar tá sí anna ramhar......

ugh, too much effort....:P

Fago! · 19-03-2010 05:05PM

God save the queen wha?

I hate you all.

Tellox · 19-03-2010 05:22PM

It's become a bit of a contradiction in itself. Mentioning Fianna Fail and moving on to state "we're children of a fighting race, that never once has known disgrace".. Fighting race? Ah shur, let's let FF run out their stay and dig the hole that little bit deeper. No use kickin up any stir. Anyone up for some dole-powered pints later?

gonnaplayrugby · 19-03-2010 05:46PM

i think the anthem should be irelands call becoz it has more emotion and means more

Xavi6 · 19-03-2010 05:52PM

gonnaplayrugby wrote: »

i think the anthem should be irelands call becoz it has more emotion and means more

That song is a farce and means fuckin nothing.

It's a sham, and a fraud and.........a sham.

gonnaplayrugby · 19-03-2010 05:54PM

a sham to who? i bet u dont even watch rugby like. its an anthem that all rugby lovers sing proudly and if you dont like it well thats your problem

sron · 19-03-2010 05:58PM

Maybe like Britain we could work the current ruling party into the song, so depending on the results of an election the lyrics would read either

Sinne Fianna Fail
Sinne Fianna Gael
Sinne La-a-bour
Sinne Si-i-nn Fein
Sinne Rainbow Coalition

etc.

Xavi6 · 19-03-2010 05:59PM

gonnaplayrugby wrote: »

a sham to who? i bet u dont even watch rugby like. its an anthem that all rugby lovers sing proudly and if you dont like it well thats your problem

They sing it because they have no choice.

It's a horrible tune with no history that was just put together because an alternative had to be played at games.

And yes I do watch rugby, but don't acknowledge that ear sore.

gonnaplayrugby · 19-03-2010 06:00PM

my family love it and so do others i know.

Change the National Anthem, Amhrán na bhFiann??

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