Nicky Byrne - ignorant or just plain stupid?

Turtyturd · 18-03-2010 08:02PM

stepbar wrote: »

Ronan O'Gara anyone?

That was the first thing I thought of, probably considered a "legend" by some of the people condemning this guy.

Also wonder what the reaction would have been had he snubbed Mary Harney.

stepbar · 18-03-2010 08:03PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

That was the first thing I thought of, probably considered a "legend" by some of the people condemning this guy.

Also wonder what the reaction would have been had he snubbed Mary Harney.

She'd have sat on him and killed him stone dead.

rovert · 18-03-2010 08:07PM

Reactionary posters are reactionary

Keano · 18-03-2010 08:08PM

Deleted User wrote: »

For god's sake, the man stood up as much as he could, they're young kids they've got there on their laps ffs.

OP you really should get a grip. What the hell do you want from him? Hand on heart singing Amhran na bhFiann as she walks by.

That would be a start

But in fairness, using his kids as an excuse still does not cut it.

18-03-2010 08:12PM

Keano A Legend wrote: »

That would be a start

But in fairness, using his kids as an excuse still does not cut it.

He hardly used them as an excuse. Where exactly was he supposed to put them? I watched the player from the time the president arrives and it really does look as if she caught them off guard also, in that they weren't expecting her to come directly to them.

In all seriousness though, what a stupid thing to get so worked up about.

El Siglo · 18-03-2010 08:15PM

I don't care, look at it like this. She's a nice woman that most people like. It's manners to stand up and greet such people, regardless of whether she is el presidente. I don't think he was being a knob on purpose, but manners are manners and he should have known better.

Keano · 18-03-2010 08:17PM

Deleted User wrote: »

He hardly used them as an excuse. Where exactly was he supposed to put them? I watched the player from the time the president arrives and it really does look as if she caught them off guard also, in that they weren't expecting her to come directly to them.

In all seriousness though, what a stupid thing to get so worked up about.

He could have had them stand up with him.

But yes it's a silly issue to get worked up. Heads off to the secret place

MrDub84 · 18-03-2010 08:21PM

hidinginthebush wrote: »

He should be tried for treason and executed.

Along with those Bankers.

Bob Z · 18-03-2010 08:30PM

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

But are the Byrne/Aherne part of the Irish Royal family? Way above a mere President? The whole president thing should be scrapped anyway, complete waste of tax payers money tbh that we simply can't afford.

Oh yeah throw another person on the dole

:pac:

Dudess · 18-03-2010 08:40PM

Rogue-Trooper wrote: »

Anybody spot Westlife 'Star' Nicky Byrne's major faux pas at the Paddy's Day Parade yesterday?

No. I also disagree that it's "major".

Nicky was sitting in the front row of the VIP grandstand outside the GPO on O'Connell Street and as the Presidential motorcade approached, everyone was asked by the MC to 'show respect and be upstanding for the guest of honour'. All 300 or so guests did stand up - EXCEPT Nicky Bleedin Byrne and his wife Georgina who remained seated with their kids on their laps! Even when the President approached him to greet him (shouldn't that really be the other way around?) he still remained seated and only managed to raise himself a couple of inches off his seat to 'allow' President McAleese to kiss him. To add insult to injury, he didn't even take off his sunglasses as she approached and the President almost knocked them off his face as she kissed him. How rude can one person be?!!

Do these so-called 'celebrities' think they are immune to the protocols of being in the presence our nation's President? Regardless of your opinion of Mary McAleese, do you not think this showed huge disrespect to the Office of the President? Is North County Dublin's answer to Posh 'n Becks completely ignorant or just plain thick? I imagine he didn't deliberately set out to snubb President McAleese, but do they really think they are 'above' having to stand up? Also, as a daughter of the former Taoiseach, you'd think that Georgina would be a little more savvy regarding the correct protocols surrounding these things. I don't accept the possible excuse either that they had the kids on their laps as lots of the people in the grandstand had small kids with them (Ray D'Arcy among them and he managed to stand up!).

If you missed it, the incident happened live on TV and the parade coverage is available on the RTE Player - the Presidential arrival is around 6 mins into it iirc.

You'd give people a filthy look for not standing for the national anthem in the pub at the end of the night wouldn't you?

sbsquarepants wrote: »

You spend the past 10 years with people (kids are people too remember!) falling over themselves to catch a glimpse of you and you start to believe you must be something special i suppose. She's the f.ucking president, stand up you ill mannered little pox. What a muppet

Crosáidí wrote: »

You are not showing respect to the person, you are showing respect to the office she holds and to the people who elected her to that office and to the many who died for her to be able to hold that office. :rolleyes:
Get a grip of yourself!

Seifer wrote: »

Ignorant twat. With the amount of gardaí on bikes there, you'd think one of them would've smacked him with a leather glove at least.

LOL that you're so bothered by it.

If he was being deliberately ill-mannered (which we don't know for sure) that's unnecessary, but otherwise, WHY... would you give even a grain of a shit? Or notice it at all?

Do you look for things to complain about?

Spot-on comments about O'Gara/the queen and Harney.

Bob Z · 18-03-2010 08:50PM

maybe he was just in a bad mood

:cool:

Bonito · 18-03-2010 09:04PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

Usually with a shotgun ..

S'ok. You win.

Rented Mule · 18-03-2010 09:25PM

stepbar wrote: »

She'd have sat on him and killed him stone dead.

Wouldn't that be 20 stone dead ?

stovelid · 18-03-2010 09:25PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

That was the first thing I thought of, probably considered a "legend" by some of the people condemning this guy.

Being rude to Irish dignitary: shock horror

Being rude to Brit dignitary: freedom of the city, back-slapping etc

Dudess · 18-03-2010 09:28PM

stovelid wrote: »

Being rude to Irish dignitary: shock horror

Unless of course it's Mary Harney...

Prof.Badass · 18-03-2010 10:19PM

Rogue-Trooper wrote: »

Anybody spot Westlife 'Star' Nicky Byrne's major faux pas at the Paddy's Day Parade yesterday?

Nope, i was too busy not watching the parade on tv and enjoying my paddy's day. Seriously I'd choose staring into space over watching that sort of granny-tv.

OutlawPete wrote: »

Couldn't disagree with this more.

No wonder today's society is so fucked.

We have kids smashing bricks into buses, Guards getting treated like shit, Fire and Ambulance men getting stoned trying to their job.

If kids are though that "No one is more deserving to be treated above or below anyone else" then they grow up with a chip on their shoulder, reveling against authority, showing little or no respect for people in holding privileged positions in society.

It's called respect.

Your anecdotes don't add up.

There's a massive difference between respecting everyone equally and not respecting anyone at all. You can believe that a position of power/authority does not grant a person the right to preferential treatment without being a dickhead.

I'd go as far as to say a little rebelliousness wouldn't go too far astray in this country. A nation of mostly pussy whipped idiots is what we are (although boards.ie generally seems more enlightened). Even just reading a personal issues thread i was shocked at the amount of people who honestly believe that parents always know best. Anyone who tried to argue otherwise was shot down by these idiots who seemed incapable of considering simple logic (such as "parents are only people ffs") because it went against their faith in established authority figures.

In particular, i think a degree teenage rebellion (obviously within reason) helps a person become a more free-thinking clued-in individual who can positively contribute to society and help us move forward (unlike the closed-minded squares who never really achieve free thought). Which is why i'd subconciously have just that little bit less respect for someone who never tried a joint or drank underage*.

*Yes, even though a lot of people (probably most) who've done these things did them moreso to fit in than out of any sense of rebelliousness or curiosity.

wobblyknees · 18-03-2010 10:22PM

orourkeda wrote: »

Who's Nicky Byrne

Who's the President?

Jesus Wept · 18-03-2010 10:23PM

I would in my arse stand up for her. He's gone up in my estimation. He's now my favourite Westlife.

phasers · 18-03-2010 10:28PM

He had his kid on his lap yes? Maybe it was too awkward to stand up?

I wouldn't expect somebody holding a child to stand up to greet me, it's just awkward

This thread is retarded. Seriously.

Dudess · 18-03-2010 10:30PM

I'd probably stand (unless something was preventing me from doing so - e.g. a child) as nobody would be forcing me to be there, but I find the outrage here at him not standing to be quite perplexing.

star.chaser · 18-03-2010 10:42PM

Fago! wrote: »

Nicky Byrne is a legend.

so is robin hood

Biggins · 18-03-2010 10:51PM

Looking at the actual video, he did actually rise to greet her but was also weighted down by the child.
He still tried anyway! Thats plainly obvious.

OP's conjecture has been shown to be misguided. End of story.

Rogue-Trooper · 18-03-2010 10:54PM

OutlawPete wrote: »

Wow wow wow now, I take back my comments .. he does get up

As far as he could without totally losing control of the kid that is.

TheInquisitor wrote: »

Lads to be fair they both had their young kids on their laps. Did anyone actually watch the video???

jd007 wrote: »

I just watched it on the rte player. Talk about an over reaction! If he threw the child aside then and stood up there'd be more people complaining!

Deleted User wrote: »

For god's sake, the man stood up as much as he could, they're young kids they've got there on their laps ffs.

OP you really should get a grip. What the hell do you want from him? Hand on heart singing Amhran na bhFiann as she walks by.

Ok, I guess I need to qualify this a little more. I was actually there yesterday, not just watching it on TV (I was standing about 5 feet away from them). What you don't see on TV is that as the car approached, everyone in the grandstand was asked to stand. There were a lot of people with babes-in-arms and they all managed to stand up so I don't accept that as a valid excuse.

Bob Z · 18-03-2010 10:55PM

wobblyknees wrote: »

Who's the President?

Who are you

The Pontiac · 18-03-2010 10:59PM

If I was seated like him I'd probably stand up to greet anyone, not just the President. Anyone that wouldn't stand up to greet her is just acting the tosser tbh. Mary McAlesse is very nice and genuine person and I have loads of time for her. I would have properly greeted any of the past Presidents anyway for the love of christ. He was more than likely prevented from giving her the full on greeting with the kids on his lap in fairness, so I wouldn't look too much into it.

Biggins · 18-03-2010 11:02PM

Rogue-Trooper wrote: »

O...What you don't see on TV is that as the car approached, everyone in the grandstand was asked to stand. There were a lot of people with babes-in-arms and they all managed to stand up so I don't accept that as a valid excuse.

Thats a fair comment. However as she actually approached the man himself, he tried to show some direct respect to her - and not just to her car!
There's a difference - and who is to say, he wasn't having problems controlling the child at the time and/or doing something else instead as the car passed previously?

Rogue-Trooper · 18-03-2010 11:03PM

Dudess wrote: »

No. I also disagree that it's "major".

You'd give people a filthy look for not standing for the national anthem in the pub at the end of the night wouldn't you?

Sorry for my 'misuse' of the phrase major - it does appear a tad OTT on re-reading it!

And, no, I don't give people filthy looks over the National Anthem.

LOL that you're so bothered by it.

If he was being deliberately ill-mannered (which we don't know for sure) that's unnecessary, but otherwise, WHY... would you give even a grain of a shit? Or notice it at all?
Do you look for things to complain about?

I'm not 'so bothered' by it - I just thought it was quite ignorant.

I rarely give out actually but I'm finding it quite invigorating!

You always get a quality debate on the AH forum!

Coriolanus · 18-03-2010 11:04PM

Bonito wrote: »

When my country stops fúcking me over I'll respect it's representatives

Also, I didn't vote her in so, meh.

No one did, remember? areshole FG dropped the ball and refused to nominate a contender.

Mrmoe · 18-03-2010 11:07PM

It doesn't really bother me, I do not really care what he did, it's not as if he got up , pulled down his pants and mooned her. If you get upset over something like this then you will have a coronary failure before your 40 with all the truly important things being ****ed up in this country at the moment. Direct that indignation to where it is needed most.

Rogue-Trooper · 18-03-2010 11:08PM

Biggins wrote: »

Thats a fair comment. However as she actually approached the man himself, he tried to show some direct respect to her - and not just to her car!
There's a difference - and who is to say, he wasn't having problems controlling the child at the time and/or doing something else instead?

The only other thing he was doing at the time was trying to look cool! The kids were sitting quietly in their laps - they were actually very well behaved!

It just looked particularly bad as he was sitting right in the front row, on the aisle where she had to walk past him. If he'd been up in the back corner no one would have even noticed him but he was 'planted' in that spot so the cameras would catch him in shot.

Nicky Byrne - ignorant or just plain stupid?

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