Beware - New Scammers about

allthedoyles · 17-03-2010 11:25AM

Theta wrote: »

Plus id be interested to find out what they are trying to get you to do.

Exactly - what type of scam could this be ?

moonpurple · 17-03-2010 11:28AM

i have never had my fone number in a public lit for a long time

Pot Noodle = · 17-03-2010 11:32AM

That happened to me about a month ago i posted it on Boards foret where

tomhappens · 17-03-2010 11:48AM

OP Did your dad every fill in one of those stupid lottery type scratch card things that fall out of magazines and papers?

People who actually do those and post them off for their surprise gift tend to end up on a thing called the Stupid List.

That is then sold on to lots of devious companies who take advantage of people stupid enough to post off for those prizes.

Theta · 17-03-2010 12:23PM

allthedoyles wrote: »

Exactly - what type of scam could this be ?

Id say they were trying to get you to download something nasty on the sly or maybe it is a round about way of making it look like something is wrong then take CC details over the phone or something!

star.chaser · 17-03-2010 12:34PM

only heard about a new scam last week so this could be connected. scammers access your computer, usually business, and encrypt all you customer data effectively crippling your business. then they leave a note asking for usually just a couple of hundred euros for the password.

Forest Master · 17-03-2010 02:15PM

Theta wrote: »

Plus id be interested to find out what they are trying to get you to do.

Then just stay on the phone & buzz off them for a few mins. The OP actually went over to his parents PC & starting typing in CMD prompts. He didn't "mess" with the caller - he entertained him.

Fizman · 17-03-2010 02:45PM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

And he got you as far as typing stuff on your pc. lol.

Tbh I was hoping that I was in with a shout of winning millions of Nigerian dollars.

Ya I know I could have hung up immediately, but in a way I wanted to entertain him for another minute or so just to see what his plan was. Of course after a few seconds of the conversation I knew he was full of sh1t.

Theta · 17-03-2010 02:46PM

Forest Master wrote: »

Then just stay on the phone & buzz off them for a few mins. The OP actually went over to his parents PC & starting typing in CMD prompts. He didn't "mess" with the caller - he entertained him.

Yeah well I have to say I most likely would not have bothered to goto the computer either. Just gone "yes alright yes uhuh yeah right i see it click the x yes"

ash xxx · 17-03-2010 02:54PM

Same thing happened to my nana, they had her on the phone for 2 hours, the wan*ers. They try get access to your PC for cc details and the like by saying they'll get rid of the viruses for you.

My cousin luckily got rid of anything they may have put on there as he works in IT but trying to scam 70 year olds, thats low!! :mad:

Fizman · 17-03-2010 03:06PM

Burning Eclipse wrote: »

Thanks for the info Fizman. I'd hazard a guess that your parents phone number is in the directory if he asked for your dad by name.

As for the people questioning the duration of the call, I'd string it out for a while, get the scammers hopes up, before informing the guy that his scam was going nowhere! 419eater style.

This is exactly why I gave him a bit more of my time.

On reading back.....and just to explain to the folks who are amazed that I even went to the PC.......the phone and the computer are yards away from each other. I didn't scramble in a panic to another floor of the house in the hope of rescuing it.

The point of staying on the phone a few extra seconds was to find out what they wanted me to run.

Fizman · 17-03-2010 03:11PM

tomhappens wrote: »

OP Did your dad every fill in one of those stupid lottery type scratch card things that fall out of magazines and papers?

People who actually do those and post them off for their surprise gift tend to end up on a thing called the Stupid List.

That is then sold on to lots of devious companies who take advantage of people stupid enough to post of for those prizes.

No, my parents are certainly not the type to entertain any of the spam crap that is found in rags.

lamai · 17-03-2010 03:19PM

Fizman wrote: »

This is the first instance of this I've come across (haven't read about it either) but thought it would be worth posting.

I popped back to my folks this evening for some grub. The house phone started ringing at about 18:50. I answered and some lad ask for my dad (by name). Told him he wasn't home so then asked if I was a family member. I said yes.

To paraphrase what he said as best I can (not exactly verbatim but close enough):

"Hello Sir. I am ringing from xxxx (didn't hear the name of the company as the line was terrible) in connection with some harmful infections that may have affected your computer. Several connections in your area have been infected and I need to perform a check on your IT system."

At this point I was like "riiiiiiiight".

He then asked me what operating system our pc was and he then asked if he could speak to me while on the PC. More than suspicious at this point I went to the PC. He then asked me to click on Start, and Run, and to type something along the lines of "eventncr" into the run field and hit Enter. At this point I asked him again what he thought may be wrong with the PC, and what viruses could be present (and why).

"No they are not viruses, these are harmful infections". :rolleyes:

I replied "Well our system has fully licensed internet protection as well as a firewall (Kaspersky Internet Security 2010), so everything should be ok".

"No these Anti virus programs cannot detect these harmful infections".

I then asked him could he explain the difference between a harmful infection and a virus, as I work in the IT industry (which I do) and I come across malware and viruses on a regular basis.

There was a long pause and he hung up. This cowboys number was also strange. It was 001219. Foreign sounding guy on a terrible line. Sounds like he was trying to either get into the registry of the system or something along those lines. Good thing my parents or sisters didn't answer as they could have played along.

Just thought I'd give a heads up. There's cowboys out there!

I wish they would ring me I would fcuking wreck his head. Run where is that.

anykey where is the anykey:D

Qs · 17-03-2010 03:31PM

These lads rang me yesterday, soon as they said who they were I searched here, seen it was a scam and abused the hell out of him over the phone.

Boards 1 - scammers 0

littlehedgehog · 17-03-2010 03:44PM

Same call to my parents. They were from 'Microsoft'. They basically get you to look at your event viewer, and say, oh, all those red and yellow symbols mean your computer is RIDDLED with viruses *rolls eyes*.

Then they tell you to go back to the Run box and put in a URL (I assume to make it seem all above board, because 'Oh, I'm not going on the internet, so it couldn't be an internet scam'? I presume?)

Then, I guess, the site either asks for credit card, or downloads something onto the computer, or.. yeah, any number of things. My mam was suspicious from the start and didn't go that far.

Scum. Absolute scum.

Dermot Illogical · 17-03-2010 03:50PM

They're a company calling themselves online pc doctor. They offer to 'fix' problems you don't have by getting you to allow them remote access. They charge €90 for the privilege. If you're really lucky they will offer you their extended deal and you can sleep peacefully for another €200.

Fizman · 17-03-2010 03:51PM

Bingo!
"Eventvwr" was what they asked me to type in. A quick google and it seems like a scam that's running a few months now.

o1s1n · 17-03-2010 03:53PM

Thing about these guys is they're probably dumb enough to be scammed themselves 419 scam bait style.

'No my computer is fine, but I can tell over the telephone like that your computer is actually infected with the H1N1 virus. If you follow my commands it will fix your pc'

'Oh really?'

'Yes, to fix it go to run, and type 'CMD'..>insert command to format C: drive< and confirm'

stovelid · 17-03-2010 05:22PM

Situations like this I love my air horn.

Forest Master · 17-03-2010 05:36PM

Fizman wrote: »

The point of staying on the phone a few extra seconds was to find out what they wanted me to run.

You work in IT, yet you needed to be at the PC to find out this info?

Forest Master · 17-03-2010 05:37PM

stovelid wrote: »

Situations like this I love my air horn.

Joke's on you. An airhorn would be louder for you than the person down the phone.

galwayrush · 17-03-2010 07:04PM

I got one of them, i let him hang on for over 10 minuted acting dumb until he hung up, hope it cost the ****e a fortune in his phone call bill.:)

Fizman · 17-03-2010 08:28PM

Forest Master wrote: »

You work in IT, yet you needed to be at the PC to find out this info?

Did you not read the part where I said the phone is beside the PC? There was also a chair beside the PC. I wanted to sit down. How would you have gotten the info?

AnonoBoy · 17-03-2010 10:09PM

Fizman wrote: »

Did you not read the part where I said the phone is beside the PC? There was also a chair beside the PC. I wanted to sit down. How would you have gotten the info?

Hah! You fell for the classic double bait and switch scam. They know you know that the Eventvwr bit is a scam but they know you'll play along and want to sit down and that's all they really needed you to do. They now control the chair. I'd tell your Mam to not sit in that chair for a while until it gets virus-checked. Jaysus, imagine if they installed a trojan in your Mam? Feck's sake!

I'll sort it out for you though. PM me your bank account details for payment. Thanking you.

allthedoyles · 17-03-2010 10:22PM

I don't need your bank account details - you can pay me using paypal , -

Its safe and secure and you don't need to reveal your credit card number .

K-9 · 17-03-2010 10:23PM

Wonder could you turn it around some way. Think this was posted by a boardsie, brilliant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQBU4cLUQaw

me-skywalker · 18-03-2010 12:05AM

Can I speak to the drug dealer of the house?

I want to ask you a couple of questions?, who is your daddy and waht does he do?

opinion guy · 18-03-2010 12:25AM

RT66 wrote: »

They're a company calling themselves online pc doctor. They offer to 'fix' problems you don't have by getting you to allow them remote access. They charge €90 for the privilege. If you're really lucky they will offer you their extended deal and you can sleep peacefully for another €200.

hahaha - if you are gonna scam you might as well scam big!

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Hah! You fell for the classic double bait and switch scam. They know you know that the Eventvwr bit is a scam but they know you'll play along and want to sit down and that's all they really needed you to do. They now control the chair. I'd tell your Mam to not sit in that chair for a while until it gets virus-checked. Jaysus, imagine if they installed a trojan in your Mam? Feck's sake!

I'll sort it out for you though. PM me your bank account details for payment. Thanking you.

Your ma needs an iPad so - inbuilt firewall and virus scanner apparently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs

the_syco · 18-03-2010 01:56AM

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

Things like this really shouldn't work as if people applied the least amount of common sense

I've worked in a few tech support centres, so I stopped reading there. A lot of the public are completely stupid when it comes to PC's, and I've come across a few people who deleted their Windows directory, as they wanted to save space "and never used Windows at all"... :rolleyes:

hal9000 · 18-03-2010 10:46AM

Guuuud Afternooon Sir Im calling to let you know that your computer is infected with cash prize monies!! all I need is your bank account no. and sort code to fix the problem.

Beware - New Scammers about

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