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St. Patricks day backlash

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  • #32
    Hank_Jones
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    If I'm being honest about this, I feel that the negativity towards Paddy's Day is probably justified.
    I remember the shit that went on when I was younger and I certainly think that it is just an excuse for the whole country to get completely hammered.
    (Which isn't always a good thing)


  • #33
    thebman
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    I think the day is pretty pointless with the parade and all. I don't mind having a day off and going out for a drink though.

    Of course St.Patrick's day is bollocks as is everything that comes along with it but who really gives a crap. Its an excuse for a bit of fun for most people I guess so might as well enjoy it or close your curtains.

    I hate the hats and all that and people plastered drunk myself though. It just looks cheap/tacky/crap and people falling all over the street is not a good thing.

    Just drink semi-responsibly :P


  • #34
    fontanalis
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    Splendour wrote: »
    Saint Patricks should be about celebrating the Christianity that St. Patrick brought to our isle. The celebrations are a far cry from that... :rolleyes:

    Zing.


  • #35
    Rebelheart
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Rebelheart


    I'm surprised nobody has given us the "St Patrick's Day is a sectarian festival. It should be banned."

    Anyway, no self-respecting Gael would call his/her children 'Patrick', 'Pádraig' or any such disrespectful name: 'Giollaphádraig', servant of (Saint) Patrick, was the norm, just as MaolMuire, devotee of (the virgin) Mary was the norm instead of Máire. The same practice existed (exists?) in Spanish culture where Mercedes and Dolores serve as more respectful names for Mary.

    /history lesson over (yes, I'm fierce bored anocht).


  • #36
    Mint Sauce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    donfers wrote: »
    the institution the day has become, no other national day has such a worldwide reach, I can't count how many times I have heard English people say "I bet they're not partying on Sr. George's day in Dublin"

    So all in all how do you feel about the day, embarrassed, mortified, proud????

    i dont even know many english people who celebrate st georges day in england/london or would even know when it is

    as for paddys day it just an excuss for many of us to break lent and do what we do best... drink!

    me, i'll be working and pushing my way through the drunks on my way home.


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  • #37
    Leftyflip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,463 ✭✭✭Leftyflip


    Just like any other holiday really, Mother's Day, Father's, oh sorry, they aren't holidays...
    Nice to have the day off though.


  • #38
    bnt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,245 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Its worse in America, half the country claim to be Irish. :rolleyes:
    In America they make cakes for everything, including St. Patrick's Day. Imagine walking up the bakery counter in Poughkeepsie and asking for a "Shamrock Cake" ... time to call CakeWrecks. Too bad I can't post pictures in this forum. :pac:

    Government resting upon the will and universal suffrage of the people has no anchorage except in the people's intelligence.

    — Grover Cleveland



  • #39
    Herb Powell
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    Irish people love to drink, that is a fact, not a stereotype.


  • #40
    m@cc@
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    Splendour wrote: »
    Saint Patricks should be about celebrating the Christianity that St. Patrick brought to our isle. The celebrations are a far cry from that... :rolleyes:

    Should there be a day of mourning for it's passing?


  • #41
    Aidric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,598 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    St Patrick on a plane would have been a boring movie.


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  • #42
    dublin 16 lad
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    I love the sexy slither of a woman snake


  • #43
    fuelinjection
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    There are lots of countires that would kill for the connection that St. Patricks's Day has worldwide and I don't think I can name any other National Holiday that is celebrated in so many cities across the World.


  • #44
    sron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭sron


    fuelinjection wrote: »
    There are lots of countires that would kill for the connection that St. Patricks's Day has worldwide and I don't think I can name any other National Holiday that is celebrated in so many cities across the World.

    What I and I suspect others object to is using this "connection" as a) a marketing tool, and b) a spectacle that misrepresents our culture and portrays an Ireland that doesn't exist and never has. If we celebrated national heroes, poets, mythology etc. I could tolerate the appearance of the odd leprechaun, but Paddy's Day as it is turns the Irish into the dancing monkeys of the world. I have no problem with saying that Ireland has a rich cultural history - it does - but the Irish figures we laud from Joyce to Pearse to Swift would be embarrassed and ashamed to see how we've sold their culture for tourism money.


  • #45
    landsleaving
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    But we're broke!


  • #46
    Gillington
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    You can either sit home and do nothing or go out and embrace it,in my eyes its a bit of fun,fair enough there's more messing,lads getting sick etc. but thats cos there is a greater number of people of out.It's basicall the same as any other Saturday night but on a bigger scale.

    Australia have Anzac day,fair enough its not a "Saints" day but everyone goes out and gets fluthered aswell as going out Paddy's Day.And I guarantee most of the people who give out about Paddy's Day would be the same people who would love to go to Spain for the Bull run or La Tomatina thinking they are more cultured and all they are at the end of the day/week are piss-ups.


  • #47
    Splendour
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    m@cc@ wrote: »
    Should there be a day of mourning for it's passing?

    No need...Christianity is alive and well... :)


  • #48
    thebman
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    sron wrote: »
    What I and I suspect others object to is using this "connection" as a) a marketing tool, and b) a spectacle that misrepresents our culture and portrays an Ireland that doesn't exist and never has. If we celebrated national heroes, poets, mythology etc. I could tolerate the appearance of the odd leprechaun, but Paddy's Day as it is turns the Irish into the dancing monkeys of the world. I have no problem with saying that Ireland has a rich cultural history - it does - but the Irish figures we laud from Joyce to Pearse to Swift would be embarrassed and ashamed to see how we've sold their culture for tourism money.

    I think it represents the aspects of our culture that are most appealing to other cultures.


  • #49
    m@cc@
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    donfers wrote: »
    So all in all how do you feel about the day, embarrassed, mortified, proud????

    How about you offer some opinion first?
    Splendour wrote: »
    No need...Christianity is alive and well...



    In the same way a zombie is......


  • #50
    __________
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    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I'm spending the entire day in bed, goodnight losers!!


  • #51
    Fergus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Fergus


    sron wrote: »
    What I and I suspect others object to is using this "connection" as a) a marketing tool, and b) a spectacle that misrepresents our culture and portrays an Ireland that doesn't exist and never has. If we celebrated national heroes, poets, mythology etc. I could tolerate the appearance of the odd leprechaun, but Paddy's Day as it is turns the Irish into the dancing monkeys of the world. I have no problem with saying that Ireland has a rich cultural history - it does - but the Irish figures we laud from Joyce to Pearse to Swift would be embarrassed and ashamed to see how we've sold their culture for tourism money.

    Have to agree. The recent morphing of a day off into this "festival" looks like some sort of "leveraging of brand value" delivered by a foreign marketing consulting group.


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  • #52
    fryup
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    St Patricks Day means nothing to me any more, its fast becoming a national embarrassment to be honest with you.......

    it brings out the worst in the irish if you ask me....young lads gettin sh*t faced and spoilin for a fight, lads with sellthick shirts chantin oh ahh up the ra!!, young lassies wearin small tops showin off their fat bellies makin a holy show of themselves

    and as for the parade > seen it once seen them all

    no not for me, i think i'll hide in my bunker for the day


  • #53
    Canis Lupus
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    Paddys day... The only day I truly feel nervous if I'm unlucky enough to be in Dublin.


  • #54
    ItsAWindUp
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    ****ing hate it. This is the conversation that I had with a friend yesterday after school:

    Friend: You going drinking tomorrow?
    Me: Nah I don't really fancy it.
    Friend: What?! You have to go drinking!
    Me: Says who exactly?
    Friend: Sure it's Patrick's Day!
    Me: ............and?


  • #55
    sron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭sron


    thebman wrote: »
    I think it represents the aspects of our culture that are most appealing to other cultures.

    My point is that what Paddy's Day sells isn't Irish culture; it's a falsified version. If Yanks can't handle the thought that melancholy poetry and warriors like Cúchulainn are more culturally relevant to us than leprechauns then they can **** off to Dubai, which is the only place I know of that sells its dignity and morals for tourism money even quicker than we do.


  • #56
    BraziliaNZ
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    I think it's great, was just cycling around in the warm sunshine and there are people at bus stops everywhere dressed in green, kids with parents dressed in green etc, it's nice to see it. Enjoy yourselves. The only problem is the inner city gets a bit rough, all the local scum seem to come out of their holes and make the place undesirable.
    Well I'm off to a wedding now to get plastered, happy St Pats!


  • #57
    BraziliaNZ
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    ItsAWindUp wrote: »
    ****ing hate it. This is the conversation that I had with a friend yesterday after school:

    Friend: You going drinking tomorrow?
    Me: Nah I don't really fancy it.
    Friend: What?! You have to go drinking!
    Me: Says who exactly?
    Friend: Sure it's Patrick's Day!
    Me: ............and?

    Me: I'm too young to be drinking anyway I'm in school


  • #58
    orourkeda
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    Drink


  • #59
    threein99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,596 ✭✭✭threein99


    Early in Paddys days its good, parades , kids having fun etc etc , this time of night is an absolute nightmare , people think they can drink twice their normal amount for some reason on paddys day


  • #60
    Dudess
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    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Its worse in America, half the country claim to be Irish. :rolleyes:
    Where's the harm in that? It's only a bit of fun.


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  • #61
    walrusgumble
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    Dudess wrote: »
    Where's the harm in that? It's only a bit of fun.

    damn lot nicer than the old signs "no blacks, dogs, or Irish"


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