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Service charges / tipping in restaurants

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Bonito wrote: »
    You don't tip AH. AH tips you.

    AH, Tip , Taxi, nah never in a million years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Which do you prefer a forward member of staff who pesters you to have more tea/coffee or a reserved member of staff who wait's until you look around for a refill?

    She should have known my cup was empty.

    Look, these chicks aren't starvin to death.

    They get at least minimum wage right?.

    When I worked for minimum wage, I wasn't lucky enough to have a job that society deemed tipworthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Bassboxxx


    Is the service charge optional??

    I asked a waitress in a restaurant after receiving bad service once. She didn't know so I said I wasn't paying it, and didn't.

    I think it's something we need to do more of or else we'll have to put up with the bad service we get in a lot of places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭christina_x


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    She should have known my cup was empty.

    Look, these chicks aren't starvin to death.

    They get at least minimum wage right?.

    When I worked for minimum wage, I wasn't lucky enough to have a job that society deemed tipworthy.


    Dear Jesus... im a waitress and if i came across a customer who just expected me to know what he was thinking, id avoid him like the plague.. a few euro isn't worth the hassle, we have plenty other customers to look after and things to be concentrating on. If you want something, just call them over and ask them and i'm sure they will be more than happy to help you, but dont just sit eyeballing your empty cup, how is she ment to know you wanted a refill?! If she automatically did it you could turn around and bitch about the pushy waitress who wouldnt leave your empty cup alone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    a few euro isn't worth the hassle, we have plenty other customers to look after and things to be concentrating on. If you want something, just call them over and ask them and i'm sure they will be more than happy to help you, but dont just sit eyeballing your empty cup, how is she ment to know you wanted a refill?!

    Look I was there a long fcuking time and she'll didn't refill my cup.

    When I order tea I want my cup refilled at least three times.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭WesternNight


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Look I was there a long fcuking time and she'll didn't refill my cup.

    When I order tea I want my cup refilled at least three times.

    I didn't realise the free refill thing applied in Ireland. Only ever came across that in the US. Or is that where you are?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭christina_x


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Look I was there a long fcuking time and she'll didn't refill my cup.

    When I order tea I want my cup refilled at least three times.

    Ask. when i order tea, i can only have one cup. Everybodys different, so keep the blood pressure down and just ask. And i duno about where you go.. but where i work we can refill your teapot with hot water but fresh teabags gonna cost yah, in which case youl be ordering a fresh tea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Ask. when i order tea, i can only have one cup. Everybodys different, so keep the blood pressure down and just ask. And i duno about where you go.. but where i work we can refill your teapot with hot water but fresh teabags gonna cost yah, in which case youl be ordering a fresh tea


    Nah, makes for much better posts if you lose the cool and firebomb the place for failing to offer you a free refill

    Just as a PoI was there a sign saying free refills and did it say to ask or just wait around forlornly?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    I didn't realise the free refill thing applied in Ireland. Only ever came across that in the US. Or is that where you are?

    Yeah, American Diner called Buddy Cadilacs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Just as a PoI was there a sign saying free refills and did it say to ask or just wait around forlornly?

    No, but this is about tipping.

    I don't tip, don't believe in it.

    If she'd refilled my cup three times, I'd tip her.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭WesternNight


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    No, but this is about tipping.

    Nah, it's about whether it's necessary to leave a tip as well as an automatically-charged service charge. Not whether you agree with tipping or are in the habit of doing so/not doing so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Nah, it's about whether it's necessary to leave a tip as well as an automatically-charged service charge..

    Yeah, well I think it's not necessary.

    I'm very sorry that the government taxes their tips, that's fucked up.

    But that ain't my fault, why should I subsidise their pay packet.

    It would appear to me, that waiting staff are one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis.

    You show me a petition that says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it. Put it to a vote and I'll vote for it.

    But what I won't do is play along.

    Don't make enough? Quit.

    I got two words for them: Learn to fuckin type.

    Cause if you're expecting me to pay their rent, they're in for a big fuckin surprise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭WesternNight


    Woah. You really have a bee in your bonnet about this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Woah. You really have a bee in your bonnet about this.

    God damn right I do.

    Society says: "Don't tip these people over here but tip these other people over here" - that's bullshit!

    You don't feel the need to tip the minimum wage workers at McDonalds do you?

    Why not - they're serving you food aren't they??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    No, but this is about tipping.

    I don't tip, don't believe in it.

    If she'd refilled my cup three times, I'd tip her.

    Ah so there's no sign, but you expect free refills ( theft, seeing as there's no sign ) but not only that, you also expect the waitress to be a mindreader.

    Not the most easily pleased customer in the world


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    I'd love someone to explain the logic behind automatic service charges to me.
    You go into a restaurant as a group bringing a nice bit of busisness there way, you are also all seated around one table, making it a much easier job for them then a number of just couples, and they decide to automatically charge you extra.

    I really can't get my head around this, if anything there should be a group discount. So if anyone from the industry can explain the logic behind it I'd love to hear.

    And no I don't tip if there is a service charge already added.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    God damn right I do.

    Society says: "Don't tip these people over here but tip these other people over here" - that's bullshit!

    You don't feel the need to tip the minimum wage workers at McDonalds do you?

    Why not - they're serving you food aren't they??

    But some McDs will give/offer you refills, so why don't you go out of your way to be nice to them? or better still seeing as they do offer refills in other establishments, frequent those instead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭eightyfish


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    It would appear to me, that waiting staff are one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis.

    I would definitely tip anybody who brings food to my table if the service is friendly. This makes all the difference to the enjoyment of the experience. The more pleasant the service, the bigger the tip. For the staff, it makes up for the crap they have to take from some members of the public. But to not tip unless the waiting staff refill your tea cup at least three times??? Who's "fuck"ing them in the ass again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    Not that i eat out too often these day,bar the euro saver menu at Mc donald's, but when i do i don't usually tip if service charge is included. The odd time i might leave a couple of euro on the table if the waiter/ess was really nice.

    Good man Mr Brown(or was he Mr Pink?) :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭beardo81





    Just for you, Pete ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    eightyfish wrote: »
    But to not tip unless the waiting staff refill your tea cup at least three times??? Who's "fuck"ing them in the ass again?

    If they don't make enough money they can quit.

    If they really put forth the effort, I'll tip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 697 ✭✭✭chocgirl


    I always tip but at the same time don't feel I should have to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭Jeanious


    Ah tipping...yet another abhorrent, idiotic practice brought in from America.
    Someone explain to me please, why does it exist?

    Chicken and egg situation in my opinion, i know in america minimum wage for "tippable" jobs is about $2 an hour, but why don't they just raise the minimum wage and do away with tipping altogether?

    Anyway, back to the emerald isle, i used to do shift work and broke my bollix from 4am onwards to get papers and magazines etc into shops in time for the morning rush hour....
    Did i go out of my way to make it happen? Absolutely.
    Did i ever get so much as a cent in tips? Did i bollix.

    Fcuk sake, if im payin for something (product or service) i want to know the exact price of it and not have such wishy-washy yank bullsh1t attached to a simple transaction.

    For me, tipping is no better than the Ryanair website shenanigans, is it too much to ask in both situations to pay the price and receive the service?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 440 ✭✭3qsmavrod5twfe


    OutlawPete wrote: »

    can you do the "Like a virgin" speech now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    can you do the "Like a virgin" speech now.

    Like a Virgin is about a slapper, she's had so much dick that ... :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,065 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    You should email this restaurant and let them know you won't be returning to their restaurant because of this practise.

    I did mail them, the response from the manager was "Was the service good? Did you have any complaints?"

    That attitude sucks so i just forgot about it and them


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,691 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Service charge and tipping is often 2 seperate things. Many restaurants dont pass the service charge onto staff.

    You are under no obligation either to pay the service charge if you werent happy with the service either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭MonkeyTennis


    i was in a very busy pub on sat night. The second round I bought I tipped the barman 2eu. Everytime I went up to the bar after that (which was quite a lot, i can tell you!;-) He served me pretty much straight away.

    Sometimes the tip works both ways


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,162 ✭✭✭✭Degag


    Pete, i've worked in the hospitality industry for 10 years and i agree with you! I hate this tipping culture. I'm not saying that i don't appreciate a tip but i don't expect it, and i certainly wouldn't spit in someones soup if they didn't tip me.

    However, to say that the waitress should have known that your cup is empty is complete bullsh!t. She may be serving multiple tables at a time and something trivial like refilling a cup with tea shouldn't or wouldn't be crossing her mind. I'm sure she'd have been happy to refill it if you asked her. She's a waitress not a mind reader.


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