RAW vs Impact Ratings : will contain spoilers from both shows

pudgeydev · 09-03-2010 08:48PM #1

Hi all,
Any word on the ratings for last night's show??
Thanks!

D2D · 09-03-2010 09:13PM

pudgeydev wrote: »

Hi all,
Any word on the ratings for last night's show??
Thanks!

They should be in late tonight/early tomorrow, afaik

Jolt2007 · 09-03-2010 11:57PM

F4Online are saying just the numbers 3.4 and 1.0. I'm assuming the 3.4 is for Raw and the 1.0 for Impact.

Vince135792003 · 09-03-2010 11:58PM

From the Observer:

TNA 1.0
Raw 3.4

Poor numbers for both.

TNA should have promoted some of their surprises. They should also go from 8 till 10 and not directly against Raw.

Very worrying for TNA for next week given what Raw has and that their show is taped.

Rjd2 · 10-03-2010 12:01AM

Vince135792003 wrote: »

From the Observer:

Poor numbers for both.

TNA should have promoted some of their surprises. They should also go from 8 till 10 and not directly against Raw.

Very worrying for TNA for next week given what Raw has and that their show is taped.

Was their anything else they can blame this on, like sport or a popular show?

Vince and Dixie must be pissed. :pac:

Mr.Nice Guy · 10-03-2010 12:02AM

I figured they'd do around that number. TNA that is. Raw's one seems surprisingly low but they more than tripled the rating nonetheless.

Can we start calling this the phoney war?

Vince135792003 · 10-03-2010 12:03AM

Rjd2 wrote: »

Was their anything else they can blame this on, like sport or a popular show?
Vince and Dixie must be pissed. :pac:

There are plenty of things Dixie can blame but it's all within her company. They did an abysmal job hyping their Monday night show.

As for Vince, Raw was a very lazy show to me.

It will be interesting to see the quarter breakdowns.

DM_7 · 10-03-2010 12:19AM

Do the ratings mean RAW and Impact share a low amount of viewers?

Vince135792003 · 10-03-2010 12:23AM

DM-ICE wrote: »

Do the ratings mean RAW and Impact share a low amount of viewers?

There was very little cross over on January 4th.

I get the impression there might be a little bit more this time give that Raw was down a .4 you might be able to argue that some of the went to TNA but.........TNA only did a 1.0 so you can't really lead to that conclusion.

We'll have to wait for quarter breakdowns.

rossie1977 · 10-03-2010 12:25AM

DM-ICE wrote: »

Do the ratings mean RAW and Impact share a low amount of viewers?

the scary thing for tna is did those 0.5 extra that watched raw last couple of weeks watch tna this week and if so what happens if and when they return to watch raw, will impact being doing 0.5 :eek:

Vince135792003 · 10-03-2010 12:27AM

Pwinsiders opinion

As mentioned earlier, Raw did a 3.4 rating. The show did hours of 3.25 and 3.5. They averaged 5,091,000 viewers.

Impact did a 0.98 rating, which rounds up to a 1.0. The show did 1,361,000 viewers.

Honestly, I think both sides can say positive things about the number. TNA averaged a 1 at a big time of year for WWE. WWE didn't see their number drop all that much from last week. This could end up being a win/win for everyone, including the fans.

I disagree completely.

waltersobchak · 10-03-2010 12:45AM

I dont think thats too bad a rating for TNA it just means their gonna have to start giving the fans more reasons to watch and slowly buildup the ratings and then the fanbase.. TNA obviously have their loyal viewership or else they wouldnt have even gotten a 1.0. now they just need to hook more people. That rating vs WWE in full Wrestlemania mode just means TNA need to keep chipping away.

flahavaj · 10-03-2010 12:47AM

They can't keep having surprise debuts every week. Downhill all the way from here.

Vince135792003 · 10-03-2010 12:49AM

waltersobchak wrote: »

TNA obviously have their loyal viewership or else they wouldnt have even gotten a 1.0. now they just need to hook more people.

That line has been said for about 4 years on TNA. 4 years later, we're still in the same rating range.

More information on ratings courtesy of the observer board:

Vince vs. Cena did a 4.0

Hogan & Abyss vs. Flair & AJ did a 1.0

Machismo Fan · 10-03-2010 12:49AM

flahavaj wrote: »

They can't keep having surprise debuts every week. Downhill all the way from here.

We'll see how they do next week when people actually know who's going to be there. Next Week's iMPACT!

Plus, Styles vs. Hardy is their ME next week.

Vince135792003 · 10-03-2010 12:53AM

Machismo Fan wrote: »

We'll see how they do next week when people actually know who's going to be there.Next Week's iMPACT!
Plus, Styles vs. Hardy is their ME next week.

I appreciate the fact that they want to get people tuning into to a taped show but giving that match away (if that's what they do) for free never mind with no build up is ridiculous.

They did a horrible job hyping this show. The Hogan/Flair angle was poor and the fact they didn't even advertise one of their surprises was so foolish.

They put more effort advertising the show on youtube a day and a half before the show aired than on their own tv show.

flahavaj · 10-03-2010 12:54AM

How many times did they mention the next PPV on Impact?

Vince135792003 · 10-03-2010 12:56AM

flahavaj wrote: »

How many times did they mention the next PPV on Impact?

They have given up on ppv. At least if they are going to have free big matches on tv, they could build up to them.

waltersobchak · 10-03-2010 12:59AM

Vince135792003 wrote: »

That line has been said for about 4 years on TNA. 4 years later, we're still in the same rating range.

More information on ratings courtesy of the observer board:

Vince vs. Cena did a 4.0

Hogan & Abyss vs. Flair & AJ did a 1.0

Very true, TNA have certainly been relying on their new flavour of the month debuts for the last 4 years to spike the ratings.. And i suppose it proves that also people dont care about matches between Hulk and Flair in 2010.. But TNA had the better show last night, and if they continue having the better show people will start watching

Vince135792003 · 10-03-2010 01:05AM

waltersobchak wrote: »

And i suppose it proves also people dont care about matches between Hulk and Flair in 2010..

To an extent it does prove that. Apparently their match did have good growth the second time going from a .8 to a 1.0. Even saying that's a positive for Hogan and Flair is quite sad though.

At the same time fans don't care about anything if you don't do the story well. The story they told was very poor.

This was Hogan and Flair's first matches on free American tv in quite sometime. TNA did not promote the magnitude of that.

Flair is miscast as a heel and I'm not sure portraying Hogan as a broken down old man (even if that's clearly what he is) is what people want in Hogan.

Mr.Nice Guy · 10-03-2010 01:06AM

waltersobchak wrote:

Very true, TNA have certainly been relying on their new flavour of the month debuts for the last 4 years to spike the ratings.. And i suppose it proves also people dont care about matches between Hulk and Flair in 2010.. But TNA had the better show last night, and if they continue having the better show people will start watching

I agree they had the better show last night but WWE have had the better shows for the past few months and with the plans they have in place for next week I'd be astonished if WWE follow up with a poor show.

If TNA's rating drops the next few weeks, which I would expect, it might be a blessing in disguise if it gets rid of Russo and forces a change in philosophy.

TNA reminds me of a little jack russell that's trying to pick a fight with a rottweiler. Perhaps a mauling, assuming they're not destroyed totally, would be a worthwhile wake-up call.

waltersobchak · 10-03-2010 01:11AM

Vince135792003 wrote: »

To an extent it does prove that. Apparently their match did have good growth the second time going from a .8 to a 1.0. Even saying that's a positive for Hogan and Flair is quite sad though.

At the same time fans don't care about anything if you don't do the story well. The story they told was very poor.

This was Hogan and Flair's first matches on free American tv in quite sometime. TNA did not promote the magnitude of that.

Flair is miscast as a heel and I'm not sure portraying Hogan as a broken down old man (even if that's clearly what he is) is what people want in Hogan.

I wonder how many of the fans who invested so much time, energy and frankly money, watching Flairs retirement match at Wrestlemania, and then saw him get the greatest send off of any wrestler ever. Actually now give a sh*t when he returns to the ring for absolutely no reason..

waltersobchak · 10-03-2010 01:15AM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I agree they had the better show last night but WWE have had the better shows for the past few months and with the plans they have in place for next week I'd be astonished if WWE follow up with a poor show.

If TNA's rating drops the next few weeks, which I would expect, it might be a blessing in disguise if it gets rid of Russo and forces a change in philosophy.

TNA reminds me of a little jack russell that's trying to pick a fight with a rottweiler. Perhaps a mauling, assuming they're not destroyed totally, would be a worthwhile wake-up call.

Absolutely Raw has been brillant recently, Its shows like last night that sometimes make me wonder maybe Russo does in fact know what hes doing.. But then again the odd good show doesnt make up for the muck they've been throwing up since January 4th

Rjd2 · 10-03-2010 01:50AM

From pro wrestling.net

TNA

The following are the quarter-hour ratings for Monday's TNA Impact television show.

Q1: 0.99 rating - Hulk Hogan, Abyss, A.J. Styles, Ric Flair, Sting appearance

Q2: 0.98 rating - Sting and Dixie backstage, Styles and Flair, X Division setup and match

Q3: 1.00 rating - Continuation of X Division match, Shannon Moore run-in, Dixie Carter, Beautiful People tease

Q4: 1.07 rating - Knockouts Tag Title match, Tazz teases RVD, RVD vs. Sting

Q5: 1.07 rating - Sting and Hogan confrontation, Kevin Nash, Eric Young, Scott Hall, Sean Waltman

Q6: 1.03 rating - Young vs. Waltman, Ken Anderson and Kurt Angle

Q7: 0.95 rating - Bubba The Love Sponge with Hogan, Beer Money vs. Jeff Jarrett

Q8: 0.76 rating - Beer Money vs. Jarrett conclusion, Hulk and Brooke Hogan, Hogan and Abyss vs. Flair and Styles

Overrun: 1.01 rating - The bulk of the main event match, various run-ins, Jeff Hardy save

Powell's POV: It looks like the Beer Money vs. Jarrett handicap match is a big part of the ratings drop in the second hour, as the bulk of the main event match took place during the overrun.

WWE

he following are the quarter-hour ratings for Monday's TNA Impact television show.

Q1: 3.45 rating - Undertaker and Shawn Michaels

Q2: 3.15 rating - Six-Diva tag, Criss Angel

Q3: 3.27 rating - Miz and Big Show vs. John Morrison and R-Truth, Angel backstage,

Q4: 3.15 rating - Randy Orton vs. Legacy

Q5: 3.39 rating - Orton vs. Legacy continuation, Batista promo, Triple H promo, Sheamus out

Q6: 3.56 rating - Hunter and Sheamus confrontation, Angel backstage, Evan Bourne vs. William Regal

Q7: 3.27 rating - Main event hype, WrestleMania teaser, Vince McMahon vs. Bret Hart video, multiple commercial breaks

Q8: 3.6 rating - Angel in-ring, Vince McMahon vs. John Cena gauntlet match,

Overrun: 3.98 rating - Main event conclusion

Powell's POV: Am I the only person thrilled to see that the handicap matches on Raw and Impact both performed poorly in the ratings? The talent involved surely played a part, but the handicap match concept is tired. It's interesting to note that while the TNA Knockouts generally lead to high-rated segments for TNA, the WWE Divas were part of WWE's lowest rated segment.

paddyismaddy · 10-03-2010 04:11PM

both shows werent great this week

Bounty Hunter · 10-03-2010 04:15PM

just changed the thread title, have some fun guys. fun within limits of course

Gerard.C · 10-03-2010 04:28PM

Ha, delighted impact got humiliated. Can't wait to see the massacre next week when Austin goes up against a taped show.

Vince135792003 · 10-03-2010 04:33PM

The spoilers for TNA's show next week are amazing, albeit not surprising.

On paper, it feels like they have about 5 thousand things going on in 2 hours.. I was tired after just reading about it all.

Dean820 · 10-03-2010 06:23PM

Time for Russo to get fired ?

geeky · 10-03-2010 06:40PM

I think we can safely say from the ratings breakdown that nobody really cares anymore about Hogan, Bubba, or Flair's comeback. to suffer such a dramatic drop in the leadup to the main event is indicative of something.

TBH, I figured 1.00 would be decent enough, even going against a Raw with vince in the main event. It's a good number to build on if Hogan's gotten the message that he's no longer a draw as a wrestler in 2010. Maybe he has the brains to make a backstage contribution - from the inordinate amount of time given to his mates, though (many of whom are way past it) I'm getting pretty skeptical.

DM_7 · 10-03-2010 06:44PM

So looking at the ratings is it fair to say the number of people interested in watching wrestling on a Monday is in the region of 6 million?

No matter what TNA do they are fighting for a share of the six million against WWE. They don't have a major network behind them that has the capabilities of helping wrestling become a bigger attraction.

So why don't/didn't they
A)just go Live on a friday night and take on smackdown? Its on a smaller network, doesn't get huge ratings and there is no monday night football to compete with during the year.

Stay on thursday's but go live. Attempting to get as big a chunk of the 6 million that watch wrestling on monday to tune in on thursday.

RAW vs Impact Ratings : will contain spoilers from both shows

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