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57,000 X-rays not reviewed by consultant at Tallaght

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  • #32
    yoshytoshy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭yoshytoshy


    Rosco1982 wrote: »
    2 mistakes in 57,000 isn't a bad statistic I'd imagine.

    They haven't checked the 57,000 yet.


  • #33
    deisedevil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    Someone has said it already and I agree, it didn't even shock me that much to read this. I know someone, now deceased, with similar issues relating to all clears and things not being checked properly.
    The amount of times I have had experience of things not being looked into correctly or misdiagnoses is crazy, to the point where I just expect hospitals to get things wrong on a regular basis. We shouldn't have to put up with this poor class of health system we have and I think that these days we have become so immune to being shocked by the failures of our country in so many areas we just don't even bat an eyelid anymore when we hear these stories. Sad state of affairs indeed.

    My heart goes out to you OP, I have lost a lot of friends and family to cancer and the way in which your father was treated was deplorable to say the least. I hope some day someone is held accountable.


  • #34
    OutlawPete
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    yoshytoshy wrote: »
    They haven't checked the 57,000 yet.

    24,000 yet to check.


  • #35
    OutlawPete
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    deisedevil wrote: »
    My heart goes out to you OP, I have lost a lot of friends and family to cancer and the way in which your father was treated was deplorable to say the least. I hope some day someone is held accountable.

    Cheers but my Dad's story isn't unique by a long way.

    I have heard so many first hand stories of people with similar experiences. We just don't hear about them as they don't really have a voice. My Dad was harmless man from the country and he always had an inbuilt respect for Doctors, Guards, Priests etc so it broke him to think they could say he was fine, then say he wasn't and not explain it.

    He was lied to in the hospital to by the Oncologist and had a row that took the last bit of strength he had.

    Oh I don't know.


  • #36
    m@cc@
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    Absolutely scandulous Pete, can't even imagine the anger I'd feel if I was put in that situation.

    Something similar happened (although not as serious) to the gf's mother in Enniskillen. She went to hospital complaining of severe cramps. The consultant done some scans and diagnosed it as 'Crohn's disease' (inflammation of the intestines). They sent her home with medication. But she was still having the cramps so she went back again. Again they sent her on her way with medication.

    So she then went to the Royal Hospital in Belfast. It turned out, half the tissue in her bowel was dead and they had to remove it to save the remaining tissue. If it had been allowed to continue, she'd have been dead within months.

    Thankfully, we live in an age where we're not afraid to question doctors opinions.


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  • #37
    hooradiation
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    deisedevil wrote: »
    The amount of times I have had experience of things not being looked into correctly or misdiagnoses is crazy, to the point where I just expect hospitals to get things wrong on a regular basis.

    This is because nobody drones on and on about the time they were seen in a timely fashion and nothing went wrong. People only remember the bad things.

    If the health system was as bad as people say it is, we'd all be dead.


  • #38
    OutlawPete
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    m@cc@ wrote: »
    So she then went to the Royal Hospital in Belfast. It turned out, half the tissue in her bowel was dead and they had to remove it to save the remaining tissue. If it had been allowed to continue, she'd have been dead within months..

    It happens more than we think:

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/my-wife-died-after-twice-getting-the-allclear-for-cancer-1473392.html

    http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2008/11/17/story77610.asp


  • #39
    m@cc@
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    hooradiation wrote: »
    This is because nobody drones on and on about the time they were seen in a timely fashion and nothing went wrong. People only remember the bad things.

    If the health system was as bad as people say it is, we'd all be dead.

    We pay a lot of money to make sure we're seen in a timely fashion and nothing went wrong. I have the utmost respect for the work that the medical profession does but it's this 'never question' culture that gives them a God complex and means that they make mistakes. It we get crap service in a hotel, we'd have every right to complain. Only difference is, in a hotel, it's not people lives that are in danger.
    OutlawPete wrote: »
    It happens more than we think:

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/my-wife-died-after-twice-getting-the-allclear-for-cancer-1473392.html

    http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2008/11/17/story77610.asp


    Sad as it is, I think the message is, go to as many hospitals as it takes until you get the answer you want.


  • #40
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    hooradiation wrote: »
    This is because nobody drones on and on about the time they were seen in a timely fashion and nothing went wrong. People only remember the bad things.

    If the health system was as bad as people say it is, we'd all be dead.

    That's a seriously flippant attitude for someone to take on such a real issue, and one that I would have thought you were better than tbh

    It's not an isolated incidence either.. as far back as records have being kept about medical practices in Ireland there have been discrepancies with how things are done

    Sure it's only one doctor though so lets ignore it :rolleyes:.. well no, it's not just one doctor, it's not just one hospital.. it's one in a long list of scandals that have been uncovered in this country within the medical profession

    Doctors train doctors after all.. is sweeping it away as a non-issue really the way to go about bettering things?

    Just tonight on Prime Time there was a piece about survivors of Thalidomide being fobbed off by the government and given little support, are they just droning on too.. do they not at least deserve the satisfaction of those responsible being held to account for what happened to them?


  • #41
    littlefriend
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    Sorry to all those who have posted about people they have lost. Horrendous stories all of them

    Every week a new story breaks about some atrocity that has or is taking place in this country. What is it going to take for everyone to snap? I mean, how much more can everybody take?


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  • #42
    [Deleted User]
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    :(


  • #43
    talla10
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    this is an absolute disgrace and surely now mary harney has to be sacked as minister she has overseen a terrible health service turn into a 3rd world health service surely we deserve much much better!!


  • #44
    ilovelamp2000
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    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Cheers but my Dad's story isn't unique by a long way.

    I have heard so many first hand stories of people with similar experiences. We just don't hear about them as they don't really have a voice. My Dad was harmless man from the country and he always had an inbuilt respect for Doctors, Guards, Priests etc so it broke him to think they could say he was fine, then say he wasn't and not explain it.

    He was lied to in the hospital to by the Oncologist and had a row that took the last bit of strength he had.

    Oh I don't know.


    Did you ever get you fathers x-rays reviewed by an independent expert ?


  • #45
    OutlawPete
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    Rosco1982 wrote: »
    Did you ever get you fathers x-rays reviewed by an independent expert ?

    Too long a story to go into here, but not as of yet for, a plethora of reasons.


  • #46
    m@cc@
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Too long a story to go into here, but not as of yet for, a plethora of reasons.

    I'm right in thinking you have a legal right to access the records?


  • #47
    OutlawPete
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    m@cc@ wrote: »
    I'm right in thinking you have a legal right to access the records?

    Yup, can't say much more on here but should things go the way we hope, I will post it.


  • #48
    littlefriend
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    Is there any possibility that our nations paragon of health Mary Harney will have to resign over this?


  • #49
    Biggins
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    littlefriend wrote: »
    Is there any possibility that our nations paragon of health Mary Harney will have to resign over this?
    Not a hope in hell.

    1. FF need her seat even more so now for a start and they will try to keep her in it till the two year away election date.

    2. She has a neck like a jockeys arse. She is gone missing again and is again trying to ride out the storm by saying nothing.


  • #50
    littlefriend
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    Biggins wrote: »
    She is gone missing again and is again trying to ride out the storm by saying nothing.

    What an extraordinary time we are living in.


  • #51
    orourkeda
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    This point has probably been made before but dont the HSE and health professionals stress the importance of checking your health on a regular basis. Turns out youre not even safe doing that.


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  • #52
    Biggins
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    Mary Harney, Minister for Health, says that she was made aware of the problem in December, but only came to appreciate the full scale yesterday
    http://www.rte.ie/news/morningireland/

    To re-quote some words I stated in the politics section:
    I love the bit "Mary Harney, Minister for Health, says that she was made aware of the problem in December, but only came to appreciate the full scale yesterday"

    So she knew about 58,000+ x-rays not being looked at (since December at least) but as it came into public light in the last 24 hours, she amazingly at the same time "came to fully appreciate..." - is she taking the proverbial piss out of us all or what?

    ...again!


  • #53
    SEPT 23 1989
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    Can i assume the person or people responsible for this will get handsome bonuses and/or and an obscene pension,surely a reward of a sentence of manslaughter would be more fitting


  • #54
    Mad_Max
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    Thank christ I'm not in that hospital anymore!

    Was admitted there for a while and during my checkups (with several registrars and 1 consultant) I pointed out that I had a lump in my mouth, to which each and every one said nah don't worry about that just a blister.

    So I left it, went to a GP about it a few months later as an aside, he also said leave it (and specifically said it's not cancer).

    Finally went to James' about it and.. boom cancer.

    Thanks Tallaght. Have half my mouth removed because it was there nearly a year longer than it needed to be.


  • #55
    Biggins
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Can i assume the person or people responsible for this will get handsome bonuses and/or and an obscene pension,surely a reward of a sentence of manslaughter would be more fitting
    Well when Harney and Drum leave office, they will get the former (big time!) but I think people feel, they deserve the latter!

    O' and by the way, Harney in that interview for Morning Ireland she stated that "she was very far away" HER WORDS - Strange!


  • #56
    yoshytoshy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭yoshytoshy


    What worries me about this also is ,it all started during the latter of the boom years ,when funding wasn't an issue.


  • #57
    OutlawPete
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    Mad_Max wrote: »
    Thank christ I'm not in that hospital anymore!

    Was admitted there for a while and during my checkups (with several registrars and 1 consultant) I pointed out that I had a lump in my mouth, to which each and every one said nah don't worry about that just a blister.

    So I left it, went to a GP about it a few months later as an aside, he also said leave it (and specifically said it's not cancer).

    Finally went to James' about it and.. boom cancer.

    Thanks Tallaght. Have half my mouth removed because it was there nearly a year longer than it needed to be.

    Christ Max, sorry to hear that.


  • #58
    hooradiation
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    That's a seriously flippant attitude for someone to take on such a real issue, and one that I would have thought you were better than tbh

    Not really.
    If i were to take the sum total of anecdotes on this thread as a measure of the state of the medical profession in Ireland, then I'd never allow myself within half a mile of any medial personnel for the rest of my days. infact we have people claiming they're terrified to go near Tallaght (or in some cases any hospital)

    Which, is of course nonsense.

    The reality isn't as bad as it's being made out. I'm not making light of this incident, I'm giving these overreactions the contempt they deserve.


  • #59
    Biggins
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    hooradiation wrote: »
    ...I'm giving these overreactions the contempt they deserve.
    If I am one of those "over-reactions, I hope you will forgive me.
    In one of my child's short life of 4 and a half, four of those years we have been struggling to get her help, after cancelled treatments, cancelled operations, lost charts, wrong charts, mis-diagnosis and now future strikes!

    The wife thinks I have reason to react loudly to Harney and the HSE!


  • #60
    yoshytoshy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭yoshytoshy


    The problem isn't trolleys in A&E ,it's waiting lists and people getting sicker while waiting.
    Nobody wants to go to hospital for anything ,but if people were confident in the health service ,people might not leave things too late.

    This scandal only encourages people ,not to bother getting checked out ,because nothing is being done about it.
    It's sickening.


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  • #61
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Biggins wrote: »
    If I am one of those "over-reactions, I hope you will forgive me.

    Unlikely, i find you contemptible.
    Biggins wrote: »
    In one of my child's short life of 4 and a half, four of those years we have been struggling to get her help, after cancelled treatments, cancelled operations, lost charts, wrong charts, mis-diagnosis and now future strikes!

    The wife thinks I have reason to react loudly to Harney and the HSE!

    Not what i was talking about at all, but thanks for sharing.

    Let me be clearer. Some people seem to be operating under the idea that should they EVER go to tallaght (or in some cases any hospital or doctor) that they are guaranteed to be misdiagnosed and/or a series of other awful things will happen.

    There are no words to describe how dumb attitude this is, because if it were an accurate reflection of reality then, as i said, we'd all be dead or at the very least crippled or maimed.

    Just as assuming that doctors are incapable of making mistakes is stupid so is the other extreme.


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