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Clean Windows 7 install. Nelp needed!

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  • #2
    old_aussie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Hi,

    Is the windows 7 disc that you are using to install win7 an original disc?


  • #3
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    It is. I bought the full version of the Home Premium from Amazon.

    I tried again and now it's asking where I want to install Windows. There are no options to pick anything though.

    It's asking for a mass storage driver for installation now.


  • #4
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    Hi The Oggmonster

    its sounds like its asking for sata drivers for you hard drive. what motherboard do you have.


  • #5
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    This one here

    http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=584454

    Gigabyte GA-H55M-USB3, H55, Socket-1156


  • #6
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    did you plug into the blue or white sata connectors


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  • #7
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    A blue one.


  • #8
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    Ok go in to your bios, is you hdd and cd listed.


  • #9
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    Ok, I'm in the bios now. It doesn't seem to have them listed anywhere. But I could be looking in the wrong place?


  • #10
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    Ok go to (boot, boot priority) for asus motherboards, are the drives in the list.


  • #11
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    is you bios like this
    Attachment not found.
    if its this bios goto standard cmos features
    your drives should be listed


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  • #12
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    Sorry, I tried to install again and it's stuck on the setup is starting page now. I'll see if anything happens in the next 10 mins.


  • #13
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    dun79 wrote: »
    is you bios like this
    Attachment not found.
    if its this bios goto standard cmos features
    your drives should be listed
    Yes my bios is like that. I'll have a look if it doesn't install this time.


  • #14
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    Ok when it has (press F6 to load drivers) on the screen dont press it.
    win7 should have the drives.


  • #15
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    Ok, earlier when I was looking through the bios my drives weren't showing up. But now they are. My hard drive is in IDE Channel 0 Master and my dvd drive is in IDE Channel 1 Master.

    I tried installing a SATA driver from the disc I got with the motherboard. I didn't think it had worked. I'm not sure if that has now made them show up.

    I will try again now. Hopefully it works now.

    Nope that didn't work either :-(

    Where should I press F6 for the drivers?


  • #16
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    There is an option at startup

    Sata is found running at IDE MODE!

    In the motherboard manual it says "The message that follows asks if you want to change it to AHCI mode and enable hot plug functionality for the SATA connectors.

    Should I pick AHCI mode?


  • #17
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    im not sure about ahci mode.
    if there listed in the bios you should be able to install


  • #18
    Anti
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    your hdd should be runnign in sata not ide mode. The ide mode is pretty much only used for 2nd gen ssd's.


  • #19
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    Anti wrote: »
    your hdd should be runnign in sata not ide mode. The ide mode is pretty much only used for 2nd gen ssd's.
    So I should click Y to change it to AHCI?


  • #20
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Host_Controller_Interface

    from the looks of it ahci is sata mode.
    yes press Y to change.


  • #21
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    I changed it to AHCI mode.

    I'm still having the same problem. Windows can't seem to find my hard drive. It wants me to install a mass storage driver.


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  • #22
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    do you have another copy of windows you can try.


  • #23
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    I have the 32bit disc. I bought the full copy from Amazon so don't have access to any more copies.

    I'm going to try and boot from the disc drive in this pc. I'll just connect it up and see will that work.


  • #24
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    after a bit of googling i think you need to download sata drivers.

    SATA RAIDDateDescriptionVersionSize2009/12/03GIGABYTE SATA2 Preinstall driver (For AHCI / RAID Mode)
    Note: Press F6 during Windows setup to read from floppy.
    Download from :
    Asia Asia(China) America Europe Europe(Russia) : ftp / http1.17.52.020.19 MB


  • #25
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    Using another disc drive didn't work. It's definitely something to do with the hard drive.

    Can I run that driver from a USB key? I don't have a floppy drive.


  • #26
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    i think you can.

    use 7zip and extract to your usb.

    let us know if it works.


  • #27
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    That hasn't worked either :-(

    What if I was to connect my new hard drive to this pc and format it? Would Windows 7 recognise it then?


  • #28
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    Yes try it in another computer. the hard might be broken.
    do you have another hard drive.


  • #29
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    Just thinking. I have one from my PS3 from when I replaced the hard drive in that.

    It's a 40GB 2.5". Would I be able to connect that?

    I connected the 2.5" drive up. It had SATA connection so I'll see if that's any different.


  • #30
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    i think you can.


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  • #31
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    Ok, with my other disc I can pick where to install Windows. This is a step further than I was getting. How do I know get my new hard drive to do this?

    I have a 3.5" external enclosure. Could I connect it to this pc and format it? What file system should I use NTFS?


  • #32
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    Yes use the external enclosure and format to NTFS


  • #33
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    in your manual and goto chapter 2-6 Integrated Peripherals
    goto that screen in your bois

    in the bios what are the settings for

    PCH SATA Control Mode == ??

    SATA Port0-3 Native Mode == ??


  • #34
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    I put the new hard drive into this pc with my other one and it's not showing up in my computer or device manager.

    I'll try with the external enclosure but that doesn't sound good does it?

    Edit: I think I have the 2nd hard drive turned off in BIOS.

    Windows 7 installed on that other drive. Thanks a lot for your help. You're a legend!! I'm sorry for taking up all your Saturday morning/afternoon.


  • #35
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    no that doesn't sound good. where did you get the drive from.

    thats ok im not doing anything today.

    when you try the external enclosure if it dosen't comeup, right click on computer in the start menu and goto manage, then goto disk management.
    if the drive is there right click on it and create a partition.


  • #36
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    I did have it turned off in bios. It is showing up now but there's no info on it. The file system is RAW. I'm sure when I reformat it everything should work out ok.

    I thought all drives were pre-formatted when you buy them. I could've saved a lot of hassle if I did this first. icon_redface.gif

    I'll know for next time icon_lol.gif


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  • #37
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    Edit:When I reformat do I need to create a partition or will Windows do it when it's installing?

    I meant to edit there, not quote


  • #38
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    in windows right click on computer in the start menu and goto manage, then goto disk management.
    the drive will be unallocated right click on it and create a new partition.


  • #39
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    There isn't an option to create a new partition. Just this:

    2rzyj9g.jpg

    Will I just format as NTFS? If I was doing a partition, how big would the partition need to be for Windows Home Premium 7 64bit?


  • #40
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    Ok the partition is there format NTFS, give windows about 100gb

    you can format the full drive as one partition if you want


  • #41
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    I fecked up with my drive there but have it formatting now.

    I won't have a chance to install Windows today but I reckon it'll work now. The fact it was unformatted must have been the problem. I'm just surprised Windows 7 couldn't format as it installed. XP could do it (Although I don't know if I ever tried it with a RAW drive).

    Again, I'd like to thank you for your help. I'll post again tomorrow to let you know if it worked.


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  • #42
    slowlydownwards
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭slowlydownwards


    Without too much hacking, you can install win7 from a memory stick / external hd*. Google it, lot of blogs have detailed instructions.


    * Provided you have a second pc to throw the stuff from win7 install dvd to a memory stick.


  • #43
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    Hi slowlydownwards

    you must have only read the first post.

    nobody asked about installing from a usb key

    he had a problem with a hard drive not the cd drive.


  • #44
    The Oggmonster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭The Oggmonster


    Hey, dun79, I'm posting this from my new pc with Windows 7 installed :-)

    The problem was that the new drive wasn't formatted. I used my old pc to format it and it installed no problem.

    God knows what I would have done if I didn't have another pc.

    Thanks for all your help trying to get it sorted.


  • #45
    dun79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭dun79


    Hi Oggmonster

    good to hear it worked out for you


  • #46
    DECEiFER
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭DECEiFER


    It seems you've solved the problem.

    Just note the following:

    - There is no F6 command when installing Windows Vista or 7, that was for XP. Windows Vista and 7 have default AHCI drivers, but do allow you to install your own in a sub-section of the OS installation drive selection. You can use a USB key or take it from the hard drive, or indeed a floppy drive (unlike with XP, you have a choice). The default drivers normally suffice for the purpose of the installation, though.

    - You should run your SATA drives in ACHI mode and not in IDE, or run them in RAID, if applicable. This is selectable from within the BIOS. Some el cheapo OEM motherboards don't have ACHI mode, but any half decent one should.


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