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Would you kiss a Bishop's Ring?

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  • #32
    pikachucheeks
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    prinz wrote: »
    More of an Irish Catholic thing tbh. My OH is a German Catholic and nearly fell to the floor laughing when I asked if she had kissed a Bishop's ring. The practice is unheard of in her family.

    Interesting! Maybe it's something to do with showing respect towards clergy?

    I'm going to ask a bishop I know about this ... He's always on Facebook! :pac:


  • #33
    hinault
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    prinz wrote: »
    More of an Irish Catholic thing tbh. My OH is a German Catholic and nearly fell to the floor laughing when I asked if she had kissed a Bishop's ring. The practice is unheard of in her family.

    I kissed the Pope's ring!

    Fisherman's ring to be more precise.


  • #34
    bonerm
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    Are you allowed to kiss a nun's ring?


  • #35
    Victor
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    That would be an ecumenical matter. :)


  • #36
    prinz
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    pikachucheeks wrote: »
    Interesting! Maybe it's something to do with showing respect towards clergy?

    Respect me arse. Here they just loved prancing around the place acting like royalty up on high. The ring kissing was just another measure to put themselves over everyone else, like some medieval lord.

    For example I met my OH's local bishop in Germany and he was in lay dress, walking around chatting and laughing, had great English, my OH went to introduce us, but he went for the handshake and told me to call him by his first name.. no airs and graces whatsoever. I didn't even know he was a bishop until after he'd gone. He got my instant and utmost respect.

    Maybe the reformation just had a better effect on the Catholic church over there.


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  • #37
    flowersagogo
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    foreplay?


  • #38
    Elenxor
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    bonerm wrote: »
    Are you allowed to kiss a nun's ring?


    Yes!! and yo have to call her Sister!!
    Now THAT would be an ecumenical matter!!!


  • #39
    pikachucheeks
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    prinz wrote: »
    Respect me arse. Here they just loved prancing around the place acting like royalty up on high. The ring kissing was just another measure to put themselves over everyone else, like some medieval lord.

    I didn't want to offend anyone by saying something like that! :P But yeah, I agree with you.
    I'd suspect that the kissing rings idea is to get people to show their respect for the priests and to give the priests themselves a sense of entitlement.

    It's a very ... intimate thing to do, I think. I wouldn't be comfortable doing it.

    It's also been known for people to come up and bless themselves against members of clergy.
    prinz wrote: »
    For example I met my OH's local bishop in Germany and he was in lay dress, walking around chatting and laughing, had great English, my OH went to introduce us, but he went for the handshake and told me to call him by his first name.. no airs and graces whatsoever.

    That seems more like what I'm used to! I don't like this idea of putting clergy on a pedestal. They're normal people too (for the most part).


  • #40
    Elenxor
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    flowersagogo wrote: »
    foreplay?

    grooming?


  • #41
    hinault
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    prinz wrote: »
    Respect me arse. Here they just loved prancing around the place acting like royalty up on high. The ring kissing was just another measure to put themselves over everyone else, like some medieval lord.

    For example I met my OH's local bishop in Germany and he was in lay dress, walking around chatting and laughing, had great English, my OH went to introduce us, but he went for the handshake and told me to call him by his first name.. no airs and graces whatsoever. I didn't even know he was a bishop until after he'd gone. He got my instant and utmost respect.

    Maybe the reformation just had a better effect on the Catholic church over there.

    I agree.
    I think the Irish RCC needs to be less formal.
    The bestowal of titles and genuflecting in front of Bishops and Cardinals is crazy.

    As a practising RC, I would like to see a less formal way of greeting these people.
    handshake shoudl suffice.

    Bishop Diarmuid Martin insists on people referring to him as Diarmuid or Dermot.
    Welcome change.


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  • #42
    prinz
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    pikachucheeks wrote: »
    I didn't want to offend anyone by saying something like that! :P But yeah, I agree with you.
    I'd suspect that the kissing rings idea is to get people to show their respect for the priests and to give the priests themselves a sense of entitlement..

    No I wasn't offended :D Respect has to be earned IMO anyway. I don't give it automatically and unconditionally and I say that as a lapsed Catholic returning to the faith. I will never stoop to kiss a ring again.
    pikachucheeks wrote: »
    That seems more like what I'm used to! I don't like this idea of putting clergy on a pedestal. They're normal people too (for the most part).

    +1


  • #43
    flowersagogo
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    Elenxor wrote: »
    grooming?
    only stroking.


  • #44
    star.chaser
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    i'd kiss Leilani Bishops ring


  • #45
    Bolag_the_2nd
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    bonerm wrote: »
    Are you allowed to kiss a nun's ring?

    only if your a bishop!!!! ;)


  • #46
    Teddy Chips
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    Such a superp thread title. Well done. To answer your question I wouldn't kiss his ring and the associated guilt that comes with it.


  • #47
    BennyLava
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    Not a bishop

    how about a nun

    http://beconfused.com/images/2007/05/Nacho-Libre-Sister-Encarnacion-looks-pretty-here.jpg


  • #48
    witty_name
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    No.

    Couldn't bring myself to do it. It'd be praising an organisation I completely disagree with.


  • #49
    thegen
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    Bishops ring, and still no mention of the Canon's balls:D


  • #50
    pikachucheeks
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    thegen wrote: »
    Bishops ring, and still no mention of the Canon's balls:D

    Hey! It takes balls to be a Canon ... They're the only member of the clergy who can be fired! :pac:


  • #51
    the_syco
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    Hill Billy wrote: »
    Surely kissing the Pope's ring would be one of the greatest things that a Catholic could do.
    Gives ass kissing an entirely new meaning!


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  • #52
    Proxy
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    I find it hilarious that so many people said they'd kiss Dougal's ring since there was no lesser option. You know you CAN just refuse to choose... *CoughLisbonCoughCough* :P


  • #53
    ChocolateSauce
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    I'd tell whoever I met, from Ratzy to the Priest down the road, to get off his high horse, resign from his disgraced institution and get a real job.


  • #54
    CrazyRabbit
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    No, I wouldn't. You never know what part of a childs body that ring was in contact with.


  • #55
    Outrage
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    The person who started this thread is an ignoramus.

    Priests don't have rings. Only bishops do (Cardinals and the Pope are just higher level bishops).

    Kissing of the ring is a sign of respect for the office that that bishop holds. It's a well-established tradition - just like shaking hands with someone is a tradition. Next, the Church-haters will be looking to ban shaking hands with politicians.


  • #56
    Bolag_the_2nd
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    Outrage wrote: »
    The person who started this thread is an ignoramus.

    Priests don't have rings. Only bishops do (Cardinals and the Pope are just higher level bishops).

    Kissing of the ring is a sign of respect for the office that that bishop holds. It's a well-established tradition - just like shaking hands with someone is a tradition. Next, the Church-haters will be looking to ban shaking hands with politicians.



    ahem maybe you missed the name of the thread...
    Would you kiss a Bishop's Ring? :confused:


  • #57
    Tail Wagger
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    Hill Billy wrote: »
    The Bishop of Kerry has said that he was embarrassed & uneasy about kissing the Pope's ring recently. (See Indo article.) Said Bishop also mentions that people still try to kiss his ring too.

    Surely kissing the Pope's ring would be one of the greatest things that a Catholic could do.

    If you are (or were) a Catholic at what level in the clergy would you stop kissing rings?

    25 years ago people would have fallen on their knees to kiss a Bishops ring,
    I doubt today that people would even wish one a good day. Religion it's a funny old tradition.


  • #58
    OxfordComma
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    No, absolutely not.


  • #59
    Thomas828
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    No. I didn't kiss Bishop Cahal Daly's ring at my confirmation in 1983, and I wouldn't do it now.


  • #60
    Hank_Jones
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    Kiss a ring?

    Not a feckin chance.

    That would mean that I support the church, which I don't.


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  • #61
    antodeco
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    Beyonce liked it a lot, so she put a ring on it


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