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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

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  • #15302
    jaykay74
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,610 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    andrewie wrote: »
    Rooney is a doubt for tomorrow.

    Is that from this mornings press conference ?


  • #15303
    Spud83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    /* waits for a gloating Mr Alan */


  • #15304
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    What injury did Macheda have that he was out so long?


  • #15305
    Spud83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    Rooney should not have been playing for England midweek. He was carrying something through the CC final, and then playing 80 minutes in an English friendly is crazy.

    Still I bet he starts tomorrow.


  • #15306
    jaykay74
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,610 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    alanmurphy83 wrote: »
    /* waits for a gloating Mr Alan */

    there was more than one. There are a few Liverpool fans who will be delighted with this judging by a few threads on the subject. Its a bit like winning a trophy I guess. :pac:


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  • #15307
    andrewie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 631 ✭✭✭andrewie


    jaykay74 wrote: »
    Is that from this mornings press conference ?

    Yeah, was posted on manutd.com


  • #15308
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    jaykay74 wrote: »
    there was more than one. There are a few Liverpool fans who will be delighted with this judging by a few threads on the subject. Its a bit like winning a trophy I guess. :pac:
    Well ya gotta give them something.


  • #15309
    Nalz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,092 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    alanmurphy83 wrote: »
    /* waits for a gloating Mr Alan */

    Is there not an auto ignore for everyone on that guy in this thread? :)

    Enter the Diouf so
    keane2097 wrote: »
    I'll believe that when I see it.

    The constant lies about his recovery have left me a little skeptical...

    2 weeks :)


  • #15310
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,018 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Hibbs: Good news, Owen Hargreaves 'almost ready to play'. Pencilled in for next Thursday's reserves game v City

    :eek:
    Wow .


  • #15311
    _blank_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Headshot wrote: »
    Wow .

    It isn't true Headshot, you know it in your heart and soul


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  • #15312
    Mr Alan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Trilla wrote: »
    Is there not an auto ignore for everyone on that guy in this thread? :)
    That hurts man.


  • #15313
    _blank_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Did anyone hear something there? Or was it the wind?


  • #15314
    Nalz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,092 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    That hurts man.
    lol we love you Mr Alan you know that!


  • #15315
    Spud83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    Anyone else think its too late for Hargreaves for this season. I mean we have ten league games left.

    Even if he plays for the reserves next week he will miss at least this weekends game, and next weeks game.

    That leaves eight games. Eight games that we will be hunting the title. I just can't see him being back good enough and fit enough to make any decent contribution this season.

    He isn't in the CL squad, and we have no FA Cup games. Really will be limited opportunities to give him a run.

    Maybe if we have the league won or lost with one or two games to go he might get a start or two, but apart from that I can't see it.


  • #15316
    Vanbis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Vanbis


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    That hurts man.

    I'm a fan Mr Alan... :)


  • #15317
    SlickRic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,715 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    Owen out for the season.

    he should just do everyone a favour and retire.

    yeah, when he's fit, he's still a very handy player to have.

    but you just can't trust him.

    as much as I can't stand the fact he's at your lot, I'd have possibly still taken him to the World Cup if fit. he has a better 'striker's instinct' than any striker England have IMO. even now.

    it's a pity you just can't rely on him.


  • #15318
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,566 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    alanmurphy83 wrote: »
    Anyone else think its too late for Hargreaves for this season. I mean we have ten league games left.

    Even if he plays for the reserves next week he will miss at least this weekends game, and next weeks game.

    That leaves eight games. Eight games that we will be hunting the title. I just can't see him being back good enough and fit enough to make any decent contribution this season.

    He isn't in the CL squad, and we have no FA Cup games. Really will be limited opportunities to give him a run.

    Maybe if we have the league won or lost with one or two games to go he might get a start or two, but apart from that I can't see it.

    1 part of me thinks it is too late and we'd be better off keeping him ok til next season.

    However, I also think that if he does get his fitness up and back to a good standard of playing (big ifs imo) he would still be a usefull player in the last few games, even if only to give Fletcher a bit of a break if needed. I'd prefer a decently fit hargreaves coming on instead of Gibson, for example. With Anderson out too, we can't really afford to limit our midfield choices any more than they already are. We really only have Giggs, Scholes, Fletcher and Carrick.


  • #15319
    Pro. F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    I was just about to post that Rooney absolutely should be rested, not because he might get tired but because he might get injured. Somebody posted earlier that Rooney is like Lampard - that's crazy talk! He's nothing like Lampard, he's been out injured for a period nearly every season. His body clearly doesn't hold up well to the ridiculously long and intense modern season. My biggest worry for him is stress fractures or minor damage in his ligaments - the kind of thing that comes from over working the body, which is what he's doing every season.

    Hopefully, if he is injured now, it's just something very minor and can be taken as the warning sign that he needs some time off to rest.


  • #15320
    davyjose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Good news: Hargreaves will play for the reserves on Thursday

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/manutd/7374910/Owen-Hargreaves-to-play-for-Manchester-United-reserves-on-Thursday.html


  • #15321
    PHB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    With Anderson out, we desperately need Hargreaves to get fit. I'm still annoyed he wasn't included in the CL squad, think it was a mistake.

    But with ten games left, if we could play in just 5 of them, he'd make a big difference, especially, especially, against Chelsea and Liverpool, where him and Fletcher in the middle would form a potent partnership, albeit slightly defensive.

    As for Valencia, I'm just not sure yet that I think he's good enough to punish top class FB's. I'd expect Cole to match him for pace to be honest. I also think he can be still kinda wasteful at times, and against average to poor teams he gets a couple of chances at a cross so its ok. I still think he needs to step up a level in terms of his going down the right crossing, and desperately needs to step up a level in terms of his cutting inside.


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  • #15322
    PHB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Rooney should be rested, Berbatov is in good enough form for him to lead an attack and get a result against Wolves.


  • #15323
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    I doubt you'll see Owen again, in fact I doubt football will see Owen again except in a studio.


  • #15324
    Spud83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭Spud83


    PHB wrote: »
    With Anderson out, we desperately need Hargreaves to get fit. I'm still annoyed he wasn't included in the CL squad, think it was a mistake.

    In hindsight it was a mistake, but when it came down to it I just don't think the staff thought he would be back and fit enough to make contribution in the competition that could still be the case.
    PHB wrote: »
    But with ten games left, if we could play in just 5 of them, he'd make a big difference, especially, especially, against Chelsea and Liverpool, where him and Fletcher in the middle would form a potent partnership, albeit slightly defensive.

    What ever about the Chelsea game he might be back for that, but the Liverpool game? Looking at the fixtures that would be his first start in a competitive game in how long? Far too big game to bring him back into, when I can't say anybody can be sure how he will react.
    PHB wrote: »
    As for Valencia, I'm just not sure yet that I think he's good enough to punish top class FB's. I'd expect Cole to match him for pace to be honest. I also think he can be still kinda wasteful at times, and against average to poor teams he gets a couple of chances at a cross so its ok. I still think he needs to step up a level in terms of his going down the right crossing, and desperately needs to step up a level in terms of his cutting inside.

    In fairness very few wingers get the better of Cole. Our own Ronaldo often struggled against him. Best game Ronaldo had against Chelsea was the Cl final, and he spent that attacking Essien in the left back position rather than facing Cole.

    I think his crossing from the right is fantastic and he constantly gets himself in good positions to do so. I agree about cutting inside though, needs that to keep defenders guessing more.


  • #15325
    The Muppet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,007 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    SlickRic wrote: »
    he should just do everyone a favour and retire.

    yeah, when he's fit, he's still a very handy player to have.

    but you just can't trust him.

    as much as I can't stand the fact he's at your lot, I'd have possibly still taken him to the World Cup if fit. he has a better 'striker's instinct' than any striker England have IMO. even now.

    it's a pity you just can't rely on him.

    It is a pity he's so injury prone but I'd be inclined to keep him on a pay as you play deal, he's scored some important goals for us this season and when fit he's a good addition to the squad.

    I'm sceptical about Hargreaves latest comback rumours, I hope it's true as we could do with him in the squad.


  • #15326
    SlickRic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,715 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    The Muppet wrote: »
    It is a pity he's so injury prone but I'd be inclined to keep him on a pay as you play deal, he's scored some important goals for us this season and when fit he's a good addition to the squad.

    didn't i read he's on 35k a week or something, then the rest in based on playing, scoring, assisting?

    i know that's not much in modern football terms, but his medical bill surely means he can't be all that worth it?

    i don't see him ever playing that regularly again.


  • #15327
    Mikeyt086
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    mike65 wrote: »
    I doubt you'll see Owen again, in fact I doubt football will see Owen again except in a studio.

    Good lord i hope not.

    "Michael, what did you think of the game?"

    "Erm... I, eh... Thought... Yaknow... It was erm... Good."


  • #15328
    JimsAlterEgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭JimsAlterEgo


    didn't i read he's on 35k a week or something, then the rest in based on playing, scoring, assisting?

    i know that's not much in modern football terms, but his medical bill surely means he can't be all that worth it?

    i don't see him ever playing that regularly again.
    I doubt you'll see Owen again, in fact I doubt football will see Owen again except in a studio.

    Hhe didn't miss one training session all season and according to him its his 1st hamstring injury in 5 years but don't let the facts get in the way of your bitterness.


  • #15329
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    It's only his 2nd injury of the season, with the first only keeping him out for 1 game.

    If anything it's just shítty luck.


  • #15330
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    JimsAlterEgo wrote: »
    Hhe didn't miss one training session all season and according to him its his 1st hamstring injury in 5 years but don't let the facts get in the way of your bitterness.

    I have no agenda regarding Owen (beyond thinking Liverpool might or might not have dodged the bullet by not signing him). I just don't see him wanting to play in a mid table team of scruffers or in another league again so I suspect he'll hang up his boots.


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  • #15331
    Mr Alan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    or his body is ****ed.


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