Dwarf Star

kryogen · 04-03-2010 11:52PM

Emkay wrote: »

You are choosing to ignore a good part of what I posted.

Robert Harrington devoted more than a decade to finding the exact location and having found the planet, Planet X, he met an untimely end. He was not a backyard astronomer, nor was he promoting any theory, conspiracy or otherwise.

The conspiracy behind this thread is surely that the truth of this planet's existence, and more importantly its path in our solar system, has been hidden from us, by and large, for nearly three decades now, while those in power have been steadily building their underground hidyholes and setting up seed banks, deep, deep underground. Do you really think Bill Gates likes gardening? He has another agenda entirely, as do all his ilk.

by underground hidyholes, do you mean things like what they are doing in Norway?

Whats happening in Norway can be seen as strange, and i would have thought it would be discussed more on the CT forum but it isnt, it seems only unrealistic or very very reaching theories get talked about while something that could be perceived as preparing for doomsday, or at least cause for concern for us goes unnoticed

funny, if you dont know what im on about i apologise, I am trying to find some links for it, but cant remember the exact name of the place anymore!

I have a new theory on whats in the photo, if it is that big, can move that fast, and can change direction so quickly, there is only one explanation

Its the Death Star

bonkey · 04-03-2010 11:52PM

beyosoco wrote: »

And the reasonable explanations for the series of images of what appear to be planets in our inner solar system are?

The reasonable explanations are the ones you reject - explanations such as camera anomalies.

From a quick google, they're the same type of explanations you were offered for the same pictures on the cameralabs forum.

kryogen · 05-03-2010 12:00AM

heres the one in Norway

there are many more being built in other countries

why are they being built? why is the EU and the US helping the Norway one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Global_Seed_Vault

http://www.croptrust.org/main/arctic.php?itemid=211

have a good search about this topic, some of the info and theories on it are much more valid and worth discussing imo, and since the CT angle on them relates to 2012 i guess its relevant!

EDIT: anyone else really curious as to what JammyDodger was investigating!

EDIT again!

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=116684

heres a link to another message board, CT influenced and their discussion of it

namloc1980 · 05-03-2010 12:02AM

kryogen wrote: »

heres the one in Norway

there are many more being built in other countries

why are they being built? why is the EU and the US helping the Norway one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Global_Seed_Vault

have a good search about this topic, some of the info and theories on it are much more valid and worth discussing imo, and since the CT angle on them relates to 2012 i guess its relevant!

EDIT: anyone else really curious as to what JammyDodger was investigating!

A seed vault to maintain a sample of and a record of all edible plants. I don't see anything particularly sinister about that to be honest. Probably makes good sense. What if disease or something were to wipe out a particularly valuable crop?

Truthrevolution · 05-03-2010 12:05AM

There is something really, really dodgy going on here.I said it already that there is a lot more to this story than we think

namloc1980 · 05-03-2010 12:06AM

Truthrevolution wrote: »

There is something really, really dodgy going on here.I said it already that there is a lot more to this story than we think

In relation to?

kryogen · 05-03-2010 12:06AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

A seed vault to maintain a sample of and a record of all edible plants. I don't see anything particularly sinister about that to be honest. Probably makes good sense. What if disease or something were to wipe out a particularly valuable crop?

yep, good points, just wanted to bring it up in the discussion as i feel its a more realitic CT!

there has been lots of discussion on the reasons for building these things around the planet, there has been politicians who have come out and mentioned 2012 in relation to them etc...

not saying i believe they are sinister, just pointing out a CT with a little bit of substance rather then a camera anomaly

Captain Chaos · 05-03-2010 12:09AM

beyosoco wrote: »

You win, I give up (third time), I find it totally impossible to deal with your logic and reasoning.

Ok, look at it this way. You are the only one that can this and have your own proof of doing so. It's been hidden from all the rest of us yet can only be seen during the day because it's beside the sun.

You don't believe NASA but what about everyone sent up in a shuttle, everyone sent to ISS. What about the space tourists Russia sent up to the ISS. Were they all told to keep shut or else?

What about all the people that fly in airliners every day above your so called chemtrails. What about all the military pilots all over they word that fly fighter jets that regularly fly at least 20,000ft above airliners. Or how about all the regular civilian that spent a few grand to go to Russia for a ride in a MiG-25 supersonic to 70,000ft, the edge of space. These people are all being kept quiet by the NWO?

You are the only one to have claimed to have seen this during the day, why no one else?

Truthrevolution · 05-03-2010 12:14AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

In relation to?

All the large (secret) underground bunkers that have been built

namloc1980 · 05-03-2010 12:17AM

Truthrevolution wrote: »

All the large (secret) underground bunkers that have been built

Not being smart but if they are secret, how do you know they have been built?

Kepti · 05-03-2010 12:26AM

The Svalbard Global Seed Vault's mission is to provide a safety net against accidental loss of diversity in traditional genebanks. While the popular press has emphasized its possible utility in the event of a major regional or global catastrophe, it will certainly be more frequently accessed when genebanks lose samples due to mismanagement, accident, equipment failures, funding cuts and natural disasters. Such events occur with some regularity. In recent years, some national genebanks have also been destroyed by war and civil strife. There are some 1,400 crop diversity collections around the world, but many are in politically unstable or environmentally threatened nations.

Where's the conspiracy?

Truthrevolution · 05-03-2010 12:28AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Not being smart but if they are secret, how do you know they have been built?

Whistleblowers, leaked information, alternative media research etc. I remember reading before that there are around 60 large underground bunkers in the US alone.It was a few years ago but i will try dig up some links if i can

kryogen · 05-03-2010 12:31AM

Kepti wrote: »

Where's the conspiracy?

tut tut, dont you know your not gonna find the conspiracy on their mission statement?

you have to go to CT websites and the like, i think i posted a link to one a couple of posts ago, they will give you the CT angle on it

eg, nibiru going to cause massive trouble and these underground bunkers being built and maintained so that the elite have somewhere to go etc.. like a modern day Noahs ark in fact, they are all reputed to be linked together too

id imagine thats the main CT angle, that the surface is gonna be ****ed so they have to keep all the seeds in a cave so that they can grow them again after the catastrophe and most of the population is fecked

cant say i buy into the whole evil part, but i think its worth looking into i guess.... i find it interesting anyway

beyosoco · 05-03-2010 12:35AM

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Ok, look at it this way. You are the only one that can this and have your own proof of doing so. It's been hidden from all the rest of us yet can only be seen during the day because it's beside the sun.

You don't believe NASA but what about everyone sent up in a shuttle, everyone sent to ISS. What about the space tourists Russia sent up to the ISS. Were they all told to keep shut or else?

What about all the people that fly in airliners every day above your so called chemtrails. What about all the military pilots all over they word that fly fighter jets that regularly fly at least 20,000ft above airliners. Or how about all the regular civilian that spent a few grand to go to Russia for a ride in a MiG-25 supersonic to 70,000ft, the edge of space. These people are all being kept quiet by the NWO?

You are the only one to have claimed to have seen this during the day, why no one else?

There are many around the world who post images of this, that is all I have done, post images, do with this information what you will. If your so sure that nothing is untoward with the planet, the recent spate of earthquakes, the multiple ships iced in and huge waves smashing through cruise liners is normal and that my images are not what I know them to be then no more can be said to you by me. If I was the only one who photographed this I would not have posted the images or even started to look through old images of chemtrails for more proof and I would not spend endless hours searching the skies for yet more images, would you?

kryogen · 05-03-2010 12:41AM

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I am a Norwegian politician. I would like to say that difficult things will happen from the year 2008 till the year 2012.

The Norwegian government is building more and more underground bases and bunkers. When asked, they simply say that it is for the protection of the people of Norway. When I enquire when they are due to be finished, they reply “before 2011”.

Israel is also doing the same and many other countries too.

My proof that what I am saying is true is in the photographs I have sent of myself and all the Prime Ministers and ministers I tend to meet and am acquainted with. They know all of this, but they don’t want to alarm the people or create mass panic.

Planet X is coming, and Norway has begun with storage of food and seeds in the Svalbard area and in the arctic north with the help of the US and EU and all around in Norway. They will only save those that are in the elite of power and those that can build up again: doctors, scientists, and so on.

As for me, I already know that I am going to leave before 2012 to go the area of Mosjøen where we have a deep underground military facility. There we are divided into sectors, red, blue and green. The signs of the Norwegian military are already given to them and the camps have already been built a long time ago.

The people that are going to be left on the surface and die with along the others will get no help whatsoever. The plan is that 2,000,000 Norwegians are going to be safe, and the rest will die. That means 2,600,000 will perish into the night not knowing what to do.

All the sectors and arks are connected with tunnels and have railcars that can take you from one ark to the other. This is so that they can be in contact with each other. Only the large doors separate them so that the sectors are not compromised in any matter.

I am very sad. Often I cry with others that know that so many will learn too late, and then it will all be over for them. The government has been lying to the people from 1983 till now. All the major politicians know this in Norway, but few will say it to the people and the public - because they are afraid in case they too will miss the NOAH 12 railcars that will take them to the ark sites where they will be safe.

If they tell anyone, they are dead for sure. But I don’t care any more about myself. Mankind must survive and the species must survive. People must know this.

All the governments in the world are aware of this and they just say it is going to happen. For those of the people that can save themselves I can only say reach for higher ground and find caves up in the high places where you can have a food storage for at least five years with canned food and water to last for a while. Radiation pills and biosuits are also advisable if your budget allows it.

For the last time I say may God help us all... but God will not help us I know. Only each person individually can make a difference. Wake up, please...!

I could have written to you using another name but I am not afraid of anything any more. When you know certain things, you become invincible and no harm can come to you when you know that the end is soon.

I assure you 100% that things will happen. There are four years to prepare for the endgame. Get weapons, and make survival groups, and a place where you can be safe with food for a time.

Ask me anything and I will answer as much as I know about the Norwegian connection to all this. And just look around: they are building underground bases and bunkers everywhere. Open your eyes, people. Ask the governments what they are building, and they will say “Oh, it’s just storage for food”, and so on. They blind you with all the lies.

The marks of the alien presence are also there, and I often see the Norwegian elite politicians are not what they say they are. It’s like they are controlled in every thought, and what they have to say is just as they are told to do things in such manners. It is clear for me who they are, and who they are not. You can see it in their eyes and in their minds.

Remember that those who are going to be in and around the city areas in 2012 are those that are going to be hit first and die first. Later the army will purge the rest of the survivors and they have a shoot to kill order if there is any resistance to bring them into the camps where every one will get marked with a number and a tag.

I also see that Benazir Bhutto is spoken of on your site. Her death was tragic. I have met Benazir, as you can see. You will also see from the photographs that I have met with a number of other notable politicians and world leaders.

The public will not know what happens till the very end, because the government does not want to create mass panic. Everything will happen quietly and the government will just disappear.

But I say this: don't go quietly into the night. Take precautions to be safe with your family. Come together with others. Work together to find ways to solve all the many problems you will face.

I have been to several underground bases [number given]. We used the railcars to get around. Only a few special people were selected to be shown around. Those that run with the elite know of this.

I have evidence of my claims. I trust my sources 100%, but they are afraid to tell what they know. People are afraid for their lives and that is how it is. I just also want the public to know what the hell is going on. I am not afraid of death or any other thing.

All the elite politicians in Norway know of this. They also know that if they reveal anything they will be removed from office and will be denied access to the different underground bases when the time is up.

The NOAH 12 railcars are transport railcars between the different bases underground. They have a support system of these all around from one base to another. They are mainly used by the military and they control all of them. There are orange triangle symbols in each base and the check-ins are a kind of energy field that everyone has to go through.

The future for my children is all I think of - and that for all the other children growing up in the new world. We have to make a difference for them so that they grow up knowing what their parents did for them, such as giving this information to people like yourselves.

In 2009 the government of FRP will come into power and Siv Jensen will be elected Prime Minister. This is already known. It's important to understand that. The elections are all fake and the same persons and power elite get elected each time in turn. Look up the political history of Norway, and the people that run the country now.

Please share this information with the rest of the internet. When the time comes people will survive because of the information they have learned from the different sites on the net.

I will not get anything but trouble from posting this, and I have no need to mislead anyone. I do this only to expose what is to happen in my country and that maybe some people will survive what is to come.

Kind regards

thats apparently the words of a Norwegian politician, but i will say right now, it has not been indepoendantly verified as even being someone from Norway so who knows for sure how credible it is

beyosoco · 05-03-2010 12:48AM

bonkey wrote: »

The reasonable explanations are the ones you reject - explanations such as camera anomalies.

From a quick google, they're the same type of explanations you were offered for the same pictures on the cameralabs forum.

Would you like a full size original image to play with, as a moderator on a CT forum you might be more familiar with experiences that are to say the least unusual as opposed to those who photograph sunsets and sheep. I can assure you that should you investigate them with an open mind and devise any test you wish to prove camera anomaly you will come up short. Why else would there be seven other images taken by a different person on a different camera showing the same planet moving rapidly towards the position I photographed it in. My two images being 62 seconds apart show this movement.

I know how difficult this is to comprehend, do you not think that it took my family weeks of argument before we decided to put this out on you tube?

Emkay · 05-03-2010 12:56AM

Truthrevolution wrote: »

Just out of interest, would you be able to give us a brief description of what some of these Sumerian texts are actually saying, if its no trouble of course......

I am not dodging the question, but I really think you would be better looking yourself. There is so much which you will find startling, to say the least.

I suppose the most interesting aspect of the clay tablets as regards this thread is that they refer to "those who from heaven to earth came", the annunaki from Nibiru or maybe one of its moons. They were space travellers who splashed down in the middle East, probably in the area we now know as Iraq. They apparently do a flyby every 3600 years. They drained the land, built canals and cities and spread out into Africa where they mined gold. They tired of doing the labouring themselves and bred us as a ready source of slave labour! Genetic engineering in ancient times. Later on they took a fancy to the females they had created and bred with them.

When the first test tube baby was born, Sitchin declared that in fact she wasn't the first because that was Adamas.

Really, those tales of long, long ago are fascinating, and relevant today because the Sumerians described details of our solar system which have been discovered only in very recent times, and of course, they knew of the existence of the tenth planet.

Jim Marrs, in his book Rule By Secrecy, has a large section at the end which summarises the importance for us today of the Sumerians and what they knew.

There are those also who believe that the Sumerian connection was one of the reasons for the US led invasion of Iraq. The US troops are said to have made a beeline for the national museum in Baghdad. It was certainly comprehensively looted at the time.

If I can find it, I will post you a link to a really good site on the whole subject of the Sumerians in their garden of EDIN.

Read any of it, and you will have a whole new take on the Bible, if nothing else!

kryogen · 05-03-2010 01:03AM

Emkay wrote: »

I am not dodging the question, but I really think you would be better looking yourself. There is so much which you will find startling, to say the least.

I suppose the most interesting aspect of the clay tablets as regards this thread is that they refer to "those who from heaven to earth came", the annunaki from Nibiru or maybe one of its moons. They were space travellers who splashed down in the middle East, probably in the area we now know as Iraq. They apparently do a flyby every 3600 years. They drained the land, built canals and cities and spread out into Africa where they mined gold. They tired of doing the labouring themselves and bred us as a ready source of slave labour! Genetic engineering in ancient times. Later on they took a fancy to the females they had created and bred with them.

When the first test tube baby was born, Sitchin declared that in fact she wasn't the first because that was Adamas.

Really, those tales of long, long ago are fascinating, and relevant today because the Sumerians described details of our solar system which have been discovered only in very recent times, and of course, they knew of the existence of the tenth planet.

Jim Marrs, in his book Rule By Secrecy, has a large section at the end which summarises the importance for us today of the Sumerians and what they knew.

There are those also who believe that the Sumerian connection was one of the reasons for the US led invasion of Iraq. The US troops are said to have made a beeline for the national museum in Baghdad. It was certainly comprehensively looted at the time.

If I can find it, I will post you a link to a really good site on the whole subject of the Sumerians in their garden of EDIN.

Read any of it, and you will have a whole new take on the Bible, if nothing else!

the bible also mentions the nephilim and those who from heaven to earth came, saw the women here were fair and mated with them etc..

kryogen · 05-03-2010 01:10AM

couple of links to Sumerian texts for anyone interested

http://www.ianlawton.com/mes4.htm

that will give ya a list of names to search and also gives the opinions of the guy who runs the site

http://www.sacred-texts.com/ane/index.htm

another good site to get people started

Captain Chaos · 05-03-2010 01:23AM

beyosoco wrote: »

There are many around the world who post images of this, that is all I have done, post images, do with this information what you will. If your so sure that nothing is untoward with the planet, the recent spate of earthquakes, the multiple ships iced in and huge waves smashing through cruise liners is normal and that my images are not what I know them to be then no more can be said to you by me. If I was the only one who photographed this I would not have posted the images or even started to look through old images of chemtrails for more proof and I would not spend endless hours searching the skies for yet more images, would you?

You didn't address a single point in my post. You just carried on with the same story you post to every one else.

kryogen · 05-03-2010 01:26AM

Captain Chaos wrote: »

You didn't address a single point in my post. You just carried on with the same story you post to every one else.

thats all he can do

anyone who refuses to accept any other possibilty but what they have already decided in their head to be true is not going to be someone you will be able to have a real discussion with on a theory such as this

Wibbs · 05-03-2010 01:37AM

Emkay wrote: »

Be a bit difficult to post Sumerian texts for they are 'written in stone' as it were!

They are very ancient clay tablets inscribed with an ancient language and pictures in relief.

Yep mostly cuneiform text, written in wet clay tablets with the end of a reed.

If you want to know more about the Sumerians, read Z. Sitchin's many works, or google Sumer, Sumeria, Sumerian etc. There is a website where you can read the texts in translation, of course. Or you could trawl through youtube's many videos on the subject - there are some good ones among the dross.

Only a handful of scholars around the world are proficient in the language and can decipher the writings. It is said there are still many hundreds of tablets awaiting translation.

The vast majority are record keeping lists. They can be easy enough to read as they're things like "3 sheep" "four horses" kinda thing. Some have ancient tales like Gilgamesh of Uruk and other religious and epic stuff. Ive not read about future death planets and the like. Not to say that's not in the texts though.

They were great astronomers though. Recorded all sorts of amazing stuff. May even have recorded the passing over head of the meteorite that struck central europe and dropped tons of ash on the middle east which gave rise to the story of sodom and gamorrah.

The heavens were a soruce of worship and study long before them it seems. The bronze disk found in germany that is astronomical in design. Hey up the road from dublin you have Knowth one of the passage graves on the boyne. It contains 70% of the entire neolithic art in neolithic art in europe. 70% wasnt a typo. And a lot of that art if not most of it seems to be astronomical in intent. Newgrange is famous for one particular solar event. Less famous is the fact that every 19 years the moon shines in just before the sun(which the greeks may have refered to in their stories of a temple of the moon in a northern island). An apollo moon mapper(feck off

) on a visit to the boyne tombs claims that he can see the very first "maps" of the moon. The egyptians also had precise stuff on this too. There are theories not quite mainstream but well believable IMHO that many tombs and pyramids had star alignments. The incas 1000's of years later had similar. Ditto the aztecs. The khmer, the chinese, the indian civilisations all had a handle on the observable sky.

The ancients were very clued in on the movements of the heavens. Well...there was no telly.. :)There were Newtons and aristotles and Galileos in those days. We just don't know their names. So if they observed something consistently I would tend to put store in it. I dont recall any peer reviewed stuff about a second sun/dwarf star/planet though.

Ostrom · 05-03-2010 01:38AM

beyosoco wrote: »

I'm shocked, wouldn't you think that those watching the sun all day with telescopes would have seen this before now? :rolleyes: Me thinks the scopes come out at night and it ain't out at night it's playing on the other side of the earth where the light is and where they are trying to hide it with chemtrails.:)

Is this a joke? What the feck is a chemtrail?

kryogen · 05-03-2010 02:00AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory

you hear chemtrails, this is what they talking about

bonkey · 05-03-2010 08:05AM

beyosoco wrote: »

Would you like a full size original image to play with, as a moderator on a CT forum you might be more familiar with experiences that are to say the least unusual as opposed to those who photograph sunsets and sheep.

If I said yes, it would only be because I like the photos, to be honest. (Those lenticular clouds in one or two are fantastic).

I've no expertise in digital analysis...and even if I was, my suspicion that its a camera anomaly (again, of the type suggested on cameralabs to you) would lead me to expect analysis to show that the effect was there, on the original, unaltered image.

In other words, I believe that the image you're showing is an accurate representation of what was captured by the CCD in your camera. What I do not (yet) believe is that this was an accurate representation of what was in the sky at the time.

I know how difficult this is to comprehend, do you not think that it took my family weeks of argument before we decided to put this out on you tube?

May I ask why?

To clarify....

If the object was visible in the sky, to the naked eye, when you were taking these pictures, then surely there was nothing to argue about. You both would have seen an object of immense size moving at improbable speed across the sky.

Indeed, the only questions this would raise is why you have so few photos of the event, and why - as you stated previously - that you pore over photos after taking them looking for a glimpse of it.

If, on the other hand, the object is not generally visible to the naked eye, but when you pore over photos photos you sometimes find something and think "aha! how did I miss that", then the question is indeed how you missed it....and how you miss it repeatedly. Perhaps its because its not in the sky.

Again, referring to your posts on cameralabs, you admit in the thread there that you took additional pictures both shortly before and sortly after the one that you had an anomaly in...and they showed nothing.

So where does this leave us?

You have some series of photos where the alleged-object is apparently moving "rapidly" across the sky over a period of time, and others where it only exists in one shot, with nothing in the picture before and the picture afterwards. Of the photos you've presented here, there are seperate and distinct anomalies (one looking like a second sun, in front of the first, and one looking like a ghost-moon, for example).

To me, this suggests one of two things:

Either you've discovered something that is violating the laws of physics as we know them (orbital patterns could not explain these vastly-differing rates of movement) or you've got camera anomalies, (which you're getting from shooting into the sun, at a guess).

If you're seeing this thing with the naked eye, then I'd suggest that rather than framing some beautiful shots of sunset, you either shoot some video of it, or you take a series of shots in burst-mode, with you moving around, including shots where you are shooting from shadow and/or with the sun behind you. In other words....get some footage which rules out the "camera anomaly" argument, rather than insist that its not valid because you've seen multiple cameras produce similar results.

beyosoco · 05-03-2010 09:12AM

bonkey wrote: »

If I said yes, it would only be because I like the photos, to be honest. (Those lenticular clouds in one or two are fantastic).

I've no expertise in digital analysis...and even if I was, my suspicion that its a camera anomaly (again, of the type suggested on cameralabs to you) would lead me to expect analysis to show that the effect was there, on the original, unaltered image.

In other words, I believe that the image you're showing is an accurate representation of what was captured by the CCD in your camera. What I do not (yet) believe is that this was an accurate representation of what was in the sky at the time.

May I ask why?

To clarify....

If the object was visible in the sky, to the naked eye, when you were taking these pictures, then surely there was nothing to argue about. You both would have seen an object of immense size moving at improbable speed across the sky.

Indeed, the only questions this would raise is why you have so few photos of the event, and why - as you stated previously - that you pore over photos after taking them looking for a glimpse of it.

If, on the other hand, the object is not generally visible to the naked eye, but when you pore over photos photos you sometimes find something and think "aha! how did I miss that", then the question is indeed how you missed it....and how you miss it repeatedly. Perhaps its because its not in the sky.

Again, referring to your posts on cameralabs, you admit in the thread there that you took additional pictures both shortly before and sortly after the one that you had an anomaly in...and they showed nothing.

So where does this leave us?

You have some series of photos where the alleged-object is apparently moving "rapidly" across the sky over a period of time, and others where it only exists in one shot, with nothing in the picture before and the picture afterwards. Of the photos you've presented here, there are seperate and distinct anomalies (one looking like a second sun, in front of the first, and one looking like a ghost-moon, for example).

To me, this suggests one of two things:

Either you've discovered something that is violating the laws of physics as we know them (orbital patterns could not explain these vastly-differing rates of movement) or you've got camera anomalies, (which you're getting from shooting into the sun, at a guess).

If you're seeing this thing with the naked eye, then I'd suggest that rather than framing some beautiful shots of sunset, you either shoot some video of it, or you take a series of shots in burst-mode, with you moving around, including shots where you are shooting from shadow and/or with the sun behind you. In other words....get some footage which rules out the "camera anomaly" argument, rather than insist that its not valid because you've seen multiple cameras produce similar results.

It leaves us with you not answering my question which is: How do you get the same alleged camera anomaly on two totally different cameras with totally different CCDs held by two different people in two different positions?
These two images were shot in a rush, they were not framed as you suggest and if you look at my earlier posts you will see my method which is that of shooting in continuous shutter mode as is evident in my other videos which you might not have looked into.

beyosoco · 05-03-2010 09:26AM

kryogen wrote: »

thats all he can do

anyone who refuses to accept any other possibilty but what they have already decided in their head to be true is not going to be someone you will be able to have a real discussion with on a theory such as this

This is a long thread for no real discussion, or maybe you meant it's not really going your way?

beyosoco · 05-03-2010 09:27AM

Captain Chaos wrote: »

You didn't address a single point in my post. You just carried on with the same story you post to every one else.

Why would I change what I have to say?

Emkay · 05-03-2010 09:48AM

kryogen wrote: »

couple of links to Sumerian texts for anyone interested

http://www.ianlawton.com/mes4.htm

that will give ya a list of names to search and also gives the opinions of the guy who runs the site

http://www.sacred-texts.com/ane/index.htm

another good site to get people started

kryogen, Truthrevolution, Wibbs

This is the site on the Sumerians which I mentioned before.
http://xfacts.com/ancient/

This site has lots of information (and photographs) relating to the following:
annunaki, artifacts, cylinder seals, astronomy, seals and art and Sumerian.

It is interesting that they had special symbols to denote the numbers 360 and 3600.

The Bible does indeed mention those who came from heaven to earth and found the females fair etc , but the Sumerian writings predate the Bible.

namloc1980 · 05-03-2010 09:51AM

beyosoco wrote: »

It leaves us with you not answering my question which is: How do you get the same alleged camera anomaly on two totally different cameras with totally different CCDs held by two different people in two different positions?
These two images were shot in a rush, they were not framed as you suggest and if you look at my earlier posts you will see my method which is that of shooting in continuous shutter mode as is evident in my other videos which you might not have looked into.

Unfortunately you have refused to post these other alleged images of the same phenomenon taken by other people with different cameras. Until you do, this point is spurious at best.

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