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Would You Support A Visit by British Queen in 2011?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    About as exciting as the visit of any other foreign monarch. That is: not very.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    No. She is not a democratic elected representative for the people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Why not? She's the head of state of one of our most important trading partners and they are our closest neighbours. People living in the past waffling on about the famine and 800 years and all that crap need to move on. All of this nationalistic "Us vs Them" crap breeds only hatred. It's 2010, not 1910.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    If she was in my front garden, Id pull the curtains.

    Thats not the right way to do things, id tell her to get the fcuk off my garden! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭mailforkev


    aDeener wrote: »
    i dont fancy the millions being spent on security for an unelected head of state to be honest

    Errr... I don't remember being able to vote on Mary's second term


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    If she was in my front garden, Id pull the curtains.

    Good idea! Not many people would want to see some naked guy leering at them through a living-room window.:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    If she was in my front garden, Id pull the curtains.

    She wouldn't really be, when you think about it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    mailforkev wrote: »
    Errr... I don't remember being able to vote on Mary's second term
    It's not as if our president does much.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    mailforkev wrote: »
    Errr... I don't remember being able to vote on Mary's second term
    At least we had the opportunity to vote for those that voted for Mary and thats the difference!
    I'm 100% agreeing with aDeener.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    mailforkev wrote: »
    Errr... I don't remember being able to vote on Mary's second term

    errrr not her fault no one ran against her and errr she was voted in in 1997 errr which lizzy never was



    errrr


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Can't they just send Phil the Greek, at least he's got a gaff-filled sense of humour? His missus is a boring old fart.

    Can you imagine some of the humdingers he'd come out with on his first trip here. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    How would a meeting between two unelected members of state help ties between Ireland and Britian?:confused:

    It would be seen a show of Solidarity and Friendship between the two nations. I know it's stupid but I just think it would show that we can put our histories aside and allow the Head of state of a country we've had problems with in the past come here in the name of friendhsip without people making it out as if she's sh*tting on the 1916 Risers or something, for stepping foot on our land. It just seems wrong to make a fuss over it, is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭who the fug


    no

    when she apologises for the famine and brutality then maybe
    if she does come ill make sure i have plenty of hard boiled eggs to bring into town with me that day



    And give back Lancashire & bits of North Wales and pieces of Scotland

    and my final demand

    Return Mick the Millars remains to Ireland

    and gets Snickers back to their proper name

    Ditto Opal Fruits

    Plus a free Nuclear Power station

    Keeps the remaining Nordies in the six counties

    Shoots the makers of Big Brother

    Force the Scots to admit that we invent whiskey

    Shoot jedward, Simon Cowell, Loius Walsh

    Moves the Olympics from London


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭Bumble32


    Only if she apologies for the crimes against our country carried out over the last 800 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭who the fug


    stovelid wrote: »
    Can you imagine some of the humdingers he'd come out with on his first trip here. :D



    That bubble has been here a few times


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    I think it's kind of insulting to the British that we have'nt ever invited her. If the British said Mary McAleese was not welcome to visit there'd be uproar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    stovelid wrote: »
    Can you imagine some of the humdingers he'd come out with on his first trip here. :D

    A famine quip would be guaranteed in the first five minutes.:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    My money would be on something crass about potatoes..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Can I just remind some folk about something?

    We give out (and rightly so in my opinion) about TD's who treat their seats JUST like something to be handed down to the next generation in their family - then we come along and worse, supposedly allow a non-elected person to come and say they are representing their "people" because - there were handed this job down ONLY by birthright from their people!!!

    I smell something wrong here. Is this not a form of hypocrisy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭who the fug


    Bumble32 wrote: »
    Only if she apologies for the crimes against our country carried out over the last 800 years.

    What by them French Welsh Scotish Dutch and German Royalty


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭IrishManSaipan


    Will she be visiting the families holiday home around Mullaghmore?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Bumble32 wrote: »
    Only if Cowen apologies for the crimes against our country carried out over the last 80 years.

    We can use that one now.:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Bumble32 wrote: »
    Only if she apologies for the crimes against our country carried out over the last 800 years.
    Sorry, don't get me wrong but.

    Are you serious? You're expecting the queen of England (Who took charge in the early 50s) and has very little say these days in the runnings of the country to apologise for the "800 years of horror" or whatever the hell you want to call it?

    I see no other former colony of England still complaining about "them damn brits" except us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Will she be visiting the families holiday home around Mullaghmore?

    Only if it's school holidays. You need innocent schoolboy fodder for that stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    Bumble32 wrote: »
    Only if she apologies for the crimes against our country carried out over the last 800 years.

    In all honesty, I couldn't support a visit from her unless she apologised for the crimes carried out against the people of Ireland in the last 800 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Hell no!

    Her loo-lah, racist husband on the other hand? Sure, why not. He's good for a laugh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭An tSaoi


    You could argue that the visits of all foreign heads of state or government are costly because of the security measures that are needed, but such visits aren't totally without merit. Now if it was the Queen of Sweden or the King of Cambodia (or wherever) who were due to visit, then I'd think it was a bit pointless, seeing as we don't have any shared history or culture with those nations. But Britain is very close to us, and I think it's appropriate that we should let their monarch visit us, if only to bury the hatchet and show that we're not bitter grudge-holders who dwell on the past (well half the people in this thread have ruined that idea for a start).

    I don't agree with the idea of Monarchs, and I don't like our President, but that's besides the point; this visit would be a valuable gesture for both sides. If the ones in the North can work together, you'd think we'd be able to get along with Britain in this day and age, and welcoming the Queen could prove that. No-one's denying that Britain historically gave Ireland a rough time, but to cling onto that idea forever is childish. Quite simply we should put aside our past differences in the name of diplomacy - that means no grumbling about apologies for things that have nothing to do with The Queen.

    Would the people who are complaining about '800 years of slavery', the Famine, and 'what the Brits done' be moaning if it was the US President dropping in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭MickShamrock


    No way.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    She can come over all the heck she wants but untill she is an elected official of the British people, she is just another person here on holiday - and by god, she is fully paying for her own trip and all costs involved with it. You know, like the rest of other ordinary citizens.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    So has herself never been in this country during her 80some years then? That's some achievement.


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