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Magpie Call Bird
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02-03-2010 08:12PM#1
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Whilst ye're on the topic lads, I have noticced in the last few weeks in my area that there is fe** all magpies around. Plenty of the dirty grey crows alright as if they know the ewes are about to start lambing:mad: Any reason for the sudden decline in magpie numbers you think? Maybe the incline in grey crow numbers have taken over is all I can come up with
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Whilst ye're on the topic lads, I have noticced in the last few weeks in my area that there is fe** all magpies around. Plenty of the dirty grey crows alright as if they know the ewes are about to start lambing:mad: Any reason for the sudden decline in magpie numbers you think? Maybe the incline in grey crow numbers have taken over is all I can come up with
Can get you a greycrow if you have a large larsen, they don't like them around these here parts!0 -
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Whilst ye're on the topic lads, I have noticced in the last few weeks in my area that there is fe** all magpies around. Plenty of the dirty grey crows alright as if they know the ewes are about to start lambing:mad: Any reason for the sudden decline in magpie numbers you think? Maybe the incline in grey crow numbers have taken over is all I can come up with
I wonder if your around my neck of the woods, we have over 150 mag's traped and shot in the last 3 months, at probably more than that in grey's!
We added bigger roof panels to all our cages, clear plastic so it doesn't affect visibility of the call bird, large drinkers added the same as John mentioned. I use household waste, dinner leftovers, spud skins, bread etc pill it under the cage.. works a threat in the frosty weather!JohnGalway wrote:Two seperate perches and lots of room to hop and flutter about it. Lock him up in a shoe box and he'll surely die.
Good perches to keep them off the ground is a must!0 -
Whilst ye're on the topic lads, I have noticced in the last few weeks in my area that there is fe** all magpies around. Plenty of the dirty grey crows alright as if they know the ewes are about to start lambing:mad: Any reason for the sudden decline in magpie numbers you think? Maybe the incline in grey crow numbers have taken over is all I can come up with
Theres plenty of both around me here and I cleared a lot of magpies out last year. I was out today with another lad working and there in a field of sheep was a grey crow staring at a ewe and some lambs within about 2 meters of each other and me with no gun!!!:eek:0 -
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We added bigger roof panels to all our cages, clear plastic so it doesn't affect visibility of the call bird,
Ah! Now! Here's something I've been pondering. I've questions, and comments, if you don't mind
For the past while I have been trying to figure out an alternative material Larsen roof. I'm currently using plywood and don't find it acceptable at all regarding the effect the weather has, de-lamination and curling it is the biggest problem.
Do you mind me asking what type of plastic ye're using and where ye got it? Have ye asked or do ye know is it UV proofed?
I'm looking for an opaque plastic myself. The reason for that is a conversation I had some time back with a very experienced trapper in the UK. His thinking, and perhaps it related to UK regulations, was that not only did the bird have the right to shelter, but it also had the right to shade from the sun!
Anyone else suggestions for an alternative roofing material would be welcome Not looking for a metal, as cut edges might rust. 0 -
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You will have to excuse my ignorrance on this subject JR but just curious as to where you put the nest? In the trap or out side it? I presume what you mean is that they will go straight into the nest in the trap with this setup?
Cheers...
I would try the 'nest' in the larsen trap first.
Magpies hunt by travelling along & through the hedges looking for food, nests, eggs etc.
I would place the larsen trap close to the hedge with the 'nest' in it. Don't place the 'nest' in a very visible spot out in the wide open....no bird would ever build a nest there....and they will cop that....place it close to the hedge and blend it in to look natural. Usually drop in within a day or two.
If they're very wary and you don't get any leave the larsen trap where it is a move the 'nest' about 10 metres away from it, near the hedge. They will eat the eggs and also get used to the trap.
Next day put another egg in and move it about 5 metres from trap. They will quickly cop on that this is a free lunch with easy pickings and no danger. Once they are used to raiding the 'nest' place it in the larsen trap. They won't be able to resist it and will drop in.
here's one I mounted raiding a nest. The nest is handmade from moss and twigs but looks realistic....give you an idea of what you're aiming to build.
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johngalway wrote: »Ah! Now! Here's something I've been pondering. I've questions, and comments, if you don't mind
For the past while I have been trying to figure out an alternative material Larsen roof. I'm currently using plywood and don't find it acceptable at all regarding the effect the weather has, de-lamination and curling it is the biggest problem.
Do you mind me asking what type of plastic ye're using and where ye got it? Have ye asked or do ye know is it UV proofed?
I'm looking for an opaque plastic myself. The reason for that is a conversation I had some time back with a very experienced trapper in the UK. His thinking, and perhaps it related to UK regulations, was that not only did the bird have the right to shelter, but it also had the right to shade from the sun!
Anyone else suggestions for an alternative roofing material would be welcome Not looking for a metal, as cut edges might rust.
John, use an old election poster. Those yokes are brilliant, easily cut, last a good while in all weather conditions and there will have been at least one usefull politician in your neck of the woods.0 -
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shoud i check the trap during the day and dispatch of these lads?
the reason i havent been doing so already is because i was told to be at the trap as little as possible??
The more often you're at the trap, the higher the chances become of the resident magpies spotting you there. If there are magpies watching, fair enough you won't see most of them, I'd avoid the trap. Especially avoid killing birds in view of other birds.meathstevie wrote: »John, use an old election poster. Those yokes are brilliant, easily cut, last a good while in all weather conditions and there will have been at least one usefull politician in your neck of the woods.
I'd have to look at them all year then
Interesting idea though.rock garden wrote: »Good evening to all. As regards larsen traps i find april. may. june. and july the best time for catching corvids. and have been told there this no point in running traps after the end of july As after this the area will be filled with new birds almost at once . now i dont trap after july. but when i did i caught 47 1 october and thought it must be doing good.But the talk from big estate keepers in england is it does more harm than good to trap outside the breeding season . Also find the call bird hard to keep alive after november.just my 2 cents worth.
Hi RG, I have a question for you regarding what the UK keepers are saying that trapping beyond April, May and June doing more harm than good. What's their reasoning for this?
Trapping in harsh weather can result in call bird deaths. I've kept birds over winter, though not any more, by being mindful of the weather, providing adequate shelter from wind (covering two sides, facing into the prevailing winds and locating the LT in a sheltered area) and cold (keep the LT out of frost pockets, in an area to make most of any sun and cover the traps with old duvet/blanket or similar if frost is expected) and providing plenty of food and water at all times.0 -
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