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porn images at centre of Green Isle row

  • 01-03-2010 03:01PM
    #1
    shqipshume
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭


    GARDAI have been given copies of almost 700 pornographic images at the centre of a row between Green Isle foods and a union, which has resulted in a six-month picket outside the company's offices.:D

    There was a formal request last Friday by gardai and images were handed over to local gardai in Naas. These images came in over a period of two years. All 700 images came from one point, before being stored and sent on the system to other people internally and externally."

    Ah the stuff that crawls out from under the rock.Watch all of you,you will be caught :P

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/gardai-given-porn-images-at-centre-of-green-isle-row-2084145.html


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  • #2
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    my mates know not to send it to my work e-mail... ;)


  • #3
    El Guapo!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,450 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    pics or GTFO...............


  • #4
    WindSock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Dean09 wrote: »
    pics or GTFO...............

    K then.


  • #5
    epgc3fyqirnbsx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    So whats the story, they're all going on strike cos 3 people got fired for sending porn around the office?

    Think most places would fire you in fairness, probably not the wisest thing they could have done


  • #6
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    How do you explain this one to the missus.

    Striker: There'll be no wages for a while dear, i'm going on strike, actually f.uck it, i'm so upset about what them firing poor auld johnny i'm going on hunger strike!
    Missus: Jesus, they must have really treated him badly. Why was he fired again?
    Striker: For absolutely nothing, he just forwarded a mere 700 porno pics!
    Wife: Eat your f.ucking breakfast and get to work!


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  • #7
    chuck eastwood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭chuck eastwood


    They are screwed one way or the other. now they are dragging there familys through the mud but they dont have much choice. Who would hire them...so why did you leave your last job emmmmmmmmmmmm. I said in another post that i worked in there on and off as a contractor and these guys are tossers and make no mistake the unions called the strike not the staff


  • #8
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Watch the sympathy ooze our of people for this one.


  • #9
    flowersagogo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭flowersagogo


    a lot of worn out,pale faced garda about today-must be strong stuff


  • #10
    deise blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭deise blue


    Eliana Glamorous Knob wrote: »
    So whats the story, they're all going on strike cos 3 people got fired for sending porn around the office?

    Think most places would fire you in fairness, probably not the wisest thing they could have done

    Green Isle have stated that the images are not illegal.
    The Labour Court have ruled that the dismissals were unfair and advised that the workers in question should be reinstated or alternatively be paid €160,000 euros.
    However the company have decided to ignore the state's industrial mechanisms.


  • #11
    CreepingDeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    Feckin unions think there should be no such thing as a company code of discipline.

    Best thing for Green Isle to do is slip in a few child pics they hand to the guards and rightly screw the strikers.


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  • #12
    chuck eastwood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭chuck eastwood


    Strong or not. How they expect to get away with that is beyond me and its an abuse of the whole idea of the union to back these guys. What the hell would you have to do before the union tell's you your on your own


  • #13
    chuck eastwood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭chuck eastwood


    deise blue wrote: »
    Green Isle have stated that the images are not illegal.
    The Labour Court have ruled that the dismissals were unfair and advised that the workers in question should be reinstated or alternatively be paid €160,000 euros.
    However the company have decided to ignore the state's industrial mechanisms.


    Are you taking the piss. 700 pic's, if it was your company what would you do. Are they paid to look at porn. how can you justify this. they don't even have the balls to come out and say sorry they made a mistake. They hide behind a union and risk the closure of the factory. A disgrace


  • #14
    Noopti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Noopti


    chuck eastwood wrote: »
    Strong or not. How they expect to get away with that is beyond me and its an abuse of the whole idea of the union to back these guys. What the hell would you have to do before the union tell's you your on your own

    A mate of mine was eventually ditched by the union but only after about 10 years of constantly taking the piss in work (mainly with regards to sick leave).


  • #15
    Zulu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Folks, the labour court ruled in their favor - not the companys.

    That means that a case was presented to a independant judge who reviewed all the facts (something people here don't have) and decided that the employees were unfairly dismissed.

    They are all the facts that you know, yet some of you still believe the employees are guilty of something! Incredible.


  • #16
    bette
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 496 ✭✭bette


    Zulu wrote: »
    Folks, the labour court ruled in their favor - not the companys.

    That means that a case was presented to a independant judge who reviewed all the facts (something people here don't have) and decided that the employees were unfairly dismissed.

    They are all the facts that you know, yet some of you still believe the employees are guilty of something! Incredible.


    Nail on the head!

    How many of you guys surf on the internet in your own time and on your own computer?


  • #17
    flowersagogo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭flowersagogo


    the out come of all this porn is in the hands of the gardai now


  • #18
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    flowersagogo wrote: »
    the out come of all this porn is in the hands of the gardai now

    Ha ha, i bet it is!!


  • #19
    deise blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭deise blue


    chuck eastwood wrote: »
    Are you taking the piss. 700 pic's, if it was your company what would you do. Are they paid to look at porn. how can you justify this. they don't even have the balls to come out and say sorry they made a mistake. They hide behind a union and risk the closure of the factory. A disgrace
    Of course I'm not taking the piss !
    The Labour Court examined the issues after all parties involved made their cases and decided that the company were in the wrong.
    The Labour Court had access to far more information than that you or I have gleaned from the papers.
    Hopefully Green Isle will see sense and abide by the ruling of the state body.


  • #20
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    deise blue wrote: »
    Green Isle have stated that the images are not illegal.
    .

    Porn isnt illegal. Doesnt mean you company will be happy about you looking at it on their time, on their hardware and passing it your mates in their office.

    No looking at porn has been a standard part of contracts for people that will be workign with computers since before the internet.


  • #21
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Will the guards list of perks never end?

    Now their getting free porn.


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  • #22
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    The illegality of it isn't really an issue, is it?

    It's not illegal for me to be drunk but if I come into work drunk I shouldn't be too surprised if I get fired, should I?







    [edit]Note to self: Come to work drunk tomorrow to test this theory[/edit]


  • #23
    TheZohanS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Zulu wrote: »
    Folks, the labour court ruled in their favor - not the companys.

    That means that a case was presented to a independant judge who reviewed all the facts (something people here don't have) and decided that the employees were unfairly dismissed.

    They are all the facts that you know, yet some of you still believe the employees are guilty of something! Incredible.

    Incorrect.

    The Union brought Green Isle foods to the Labour Court, GIF do not recognise the Union so they did not attend.

    Since Green Isle Foods did not attend the court and make a representation the Labour Court found in favour of the Union.

    The Labour Court were not presented with all the facts.


  • #24
    Zulu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Fair enough. Let me rephrase...

    Folks, the labour court ruled in their favor - not the companys.

    That means that a case was presented to a independant judge who reviewed all the facts presented to him/her (something people here don't have) and decided that the employees were unfairly dismissed.

    They are all the facts that you know, yet some of you still believe the employees are guilty of something! Incredible.


  • #25
    Noopti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Noopti


    Zulu wrote: »
    They are all the facts that you know, yet some of you still believe the employees are guilty of something! Incredible.

    They are guilty of being complete tools to be fair. So they are guilty of "something".


  • #26
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Fact is, it is generaly easier to win an unfair dismissal case if you've been fired, than it is for the company. It is very difficult to fire someone legally. I have personal experience of 2 cases over the years where the fired person won damages both times. Both cases hinged on procedures being followed, ie verbal warnings being followed by writen warnings and so on. In 1 case the employee snapped and threatened to kill the general manager, got fired, claimed unfair dismissal and won 5 grand in damages, all because he wasn't warned in writing not to threaten the life of his boss!!
    The labour court is not infallible, even when they have the full facts


  • #27
    Zulu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Noopti wrote: »
    They are guilty of being complete tools to be fair.
    Fair enough this is After Hours...
    But in the event that you actually believe what youre posting: how is that fair? Have you anything other than ill informeded opinion to back up that assertion?


  • #28
    deise blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭deise blue


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Incorrect.

    The Union brought Green Isle foods to the Labour Court, GIF do not recognise the Union so they did not attend.

    Since Green Isle Foods did not attend the court and make a representation the Labour Court found in favour of the Union.

    The Labour Court were not presented with all the facts.

    Green Isle were represented however at the Labour Court by IBEC who were briefed by Green Isle but did not challenge the Union's assertions.
    One of the uncontested assertions was that the workers do not have access to the internet and as such should not be penalised for emails sent to them , these workers did not download pornagraphic images.


  • #29
    TheZohanS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Zulu wrote: »
    Fair enough. Let me rephrase...

    Folks, the labour court ruled in their favor - not the companys.

    That means that a case was presented to a independant judge who reviewed all the facts presented to him/her (something people here don't have) and decided that the employees were unfairly dismissed.

    They are all the facts that you know, yet some of you still believe the employees are guilty of something! Incredible.

    The Labour Court only heard one side, the Unions side, of the story.


  • #30
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    deise blue wrote: »
    these workers did not download pornagraphic images.

    But they did forward them, didn't they?
    So it's not like they're innocent victims or anything.


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  • #31
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    deise blue wrote: »
    Green Isle were represented however at the Labour Court by IBEC who were briefed by Green Isle but did not challenge the Union's assertions.
    One of the uncontested assertions was that the workers do not have access to the internet and as such should not be penalised for emails sent to them , these workers did not download pornagraphic images.

    Is the problem not that they downloaded or recieved porn, but sent it on to others?


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