Aston Villa -V- Man United - 28th Feb

Mitch Connor · 28-02-2010 07:19PM

Iang87 wrote: »

i think they know they stole one today and maybe theres a little shame in their victory because they ahould be ashamed to celebrate that. anyway if i stay i'll get banned. away i go

lol. yeah, shame it is.

United def got the rub of the green with that decision, but people say decisions even themselves out over the season, and maybe that was a little bit of justice for United today, after some of the shocking reffing performances we have had to put up with this season (City in the semi-final first leg for a start)

redout · 28-02-2010 07:21PM

Iang87 wrote: »

i think they know they stole one today and maybe theres a little shame in their victory because they ahould be ashamed to celebrate that. anyway if i stay i'll get banned. away i go

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

SantryRed · 28-02-2010 07:27PM

Iang87 wrote: »

i think they know they stole one today and maybe theres a little shame in their victory because they ahould be ashamed to celebrate that. anyway if i stay i'll get banned. away i go

At least they've won something.

jaykay74 · 28-02-2010 07:29PM

Iang87 wrote: »

i think they know they stole one today and maybe theres a little shame in their victory because they ahould be ashamed to celebrate that. anyway if i stay i'll get banned. away i go

you score 0/10

CR 7 · 28-02-2010 07:45PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

In fairness mitch, its a hamstring niggle, its not like he broke his leg, i'm happy when rival players get injured meaning they'll miss important games etc as long as their not serious injuries.

In fairness, an injury is an injury, he'll be out for some amount of time, it's fair enough to mock players if they fall over their own feet showboating, or hit the corner flag with a penalty, but being happy someone is injured is not on. Go into the Stoke Arsenal thread and see how far that attitude will get you.:rolleyes:

Iang87 · 28-02-2010 07:47PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

lol. yeah, shame it is.

United def got the rub of the green with that decision, but people say decisions even themselves out over the season, and maybe that was a little bit of justice for United today, after some of the shocking reffing performances we have had to put up with this season (City in the semi-final first leg for a start)

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha a united fan saying they got justice today, saying decisions even themselves out over a season haha ok now i'm gone i'm actually going to laugh for the rest of my days thinking of that post. i'd like to thank you for that eternal smile. brilliant

Doyler92 · 28-02-2010 07:51PM

Lads, what did I say? Villa would go one nil up then United win 2-1. Disgrace!!! Fair play United though.

CR 7 · 28-02-2010 07:51PM

Iang87 wrote: »

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha a united fan saying they got justice today, saying decisions even themselves out over a season haha ok now i'm gone i'm actually going to laugh for the rest of my days thinking of that post. i'd like to thank you for that eternal smile. brilliant

It's nice to see the enjoyment one can get from United winning trophies. Infectious, ain't it?

SlickRic · 28-02-2010 07:55PM

utd deserved it, once they got away with Vidic staying on the pitch.

Villa were solid, if uninspiring, apart from Milner, who i thought again looked absolutely brilliant.

utd had just too much going forward in Valencia, Bebratov, and Rooney (even though he was pretty before before the goal). Even Park looked dangerous.

i thought Carrick had one of his better games.

Warnock did not look England class.

Owen looked very sharp, and if only his hamstrings weren't so fragile he could be a real asset to England, and maybe Utd.

overall, Villa can feel hard done by in terms of the sending off, but once it was 11 v 11, i thought utd just edged it, and definitely had the better chances.

i feel sorry for Dunne. he's been superb this season, made a bad mistake, recovered, but got unlucky that it fell to Owen. i hope he and Villa win the FA Cup now.

CHD · 28-02-2010 07:56PM

lol

People trying to stir after a league cup win..... Strange. Also being happy that someone got injured is sad and pathetic.

United are smellyheads hahahaha :rolleyes:

CR 7 · 28-02-2010 08:00PM

SlickRic wrote: »

utd had just too much going forward in Valencia, Bebratov, and Rooney (even though he was pretty before before the goal). Even Park looked dangerous.

This has been very noticeable over the last few weeks, Park seems to be a lot more direct in attcking, he never used to take the ball on himself and shoot, almost always looking for a pass instead, but someone has told him to be more selfish, and it seems to be working out fairly well, he should have had a goal in the West Ham game, and maybe today too.

SlickRic wrote: »

i feel sorry for Dunne. he's been superb this season, made a bad mistake, recovered, but got unlucky that it fell to Owen. i hope he and Villa win the FA Cup now.

Yeah, I hope Villa win it too, but maybe for an ulterior motive.:pac:

CSF · 28-02-2010 08:09PM

Was definitely a robbery of Villa, but by the referee, (who should be suspended for this, he didn't miss something, he just decided not to apply not the rules of football) not by United. So on that note, you'd have to say well done to United, not a deserved win, but nonetheless well done.

redout · 28-02-2010 08:10PM

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Pro. F · 28-02-2010 08:14PM

I thought Park had a good game. I love having him in the squad tbh, he can't shoot or cross much but his link up play and his attitude are spot on.

Berbatov actually ran around a bit today and showed what he can do when he's bothered. But he was absolutely fùcked towards the end of the game so you have to question his fitness.

I was happy for PIG to play and get a medal, he really has improved dramatically this season.

Gutted for Owen, he was playing very well before the injury.

I feel a bit sorry for Villa, this game obviously meant so much to them. They're turning into a proper team now, I hope they have some good success in the rest of the season.

Ps: I hope Rooney was only lying about his knee to get out of international duty :eek:

IvySlayer · 28-02-2010 08:23PM

CSF wrote: »

Was definitely a robbery of Villa, but by the referee, (who should be suspended for this, he didn't miss something, he just decided not to apply not the rules of football) not by United. So on that note, you'd have to say well done to United, not a deserved win, but nonetheless well done.

Did you not watch that second half? United deserved it. It should've been a red for Vidic, I agree. Villa had some decisions gone their way too.

SlickRic · 28-02-2010 08:26PM

IvySlayer wrote: »

Villa had some decisions gone their way too.

of course they did.

but nothing as big as the one in question.

CSF · 28-02-2010 09:14PM

IvySlayer wrote: »

Did you not watch that second half? United deserved it.

Take Vidic out of their defence and they wouldn't have been able to play that way. Rafael, Evans and Evra is not a solid defence and if it was kept Villa would have scored again without doubt. If they'd brought in Neville or Brown, they'd still have been leaky at the back, and would have to remove an attacking threat at 1 nil down.

I'm not debating that United are a better side than Villa, of course they are, so its no surprise they outplayed them in the 2nd half, but if justice had been done, Villa would have been in a situation that would have made them odds on favourites to go on and win the game. So no, United didn't deserve to win the game, the referee gifted it to them, but as has been said thats football, but on this day United did not deserve to win.

28-02-2010 09:17PM

SlickRic wrote: »

of course they did.

but nothing as big as the one in question.

Collins should have got the line for his last man tackle too, but of course the ref couldn't do it after bottling the Vidic one. His was a much more cynical take-down of the man with no intention of playing the ball, rather than Vidic's which was just a poor tackle. And at least Villa got a penalty out of it, United got a free about 35 yards from goal.

SlickRic · 28-02-2010 09:22PM

28064212 wrote: »

Collins should have got the line for his last man tackle too

bullcr*p.

owen was going closer to the corner flag than the goal with his touch.

yellow card all day long.

Agbonlahor was 10 yards out with a shot on.

Mitch Connor · 28-02-2010 10:12PM

SlickRic wrote: »

bullcr*p.

owen was going closer to the corner flag than the goal with his touch.

yellow card all day long.

Agbonlahor was 10 yards out with a shot on.

are you honestly trying to say agbonlahor would have beaten Kuszczak with a shot? There mere fact Kuszczak was in goal mean it simply can not have been a goal scoring opportunity, hence no red card. I fail to see what the problem is. Villa were lucky to get a penalty out of it.

Mr Alan · 28-02-2010 10:14PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

are you honestly trying to say agbonlahor would have beaten Kuszczak with a shot? There mere fact Kuszczak was in goal mean it simply can not have been a goal scoring opportunity, hence no red card. I fail to see what the problem is. Villa were lucky to get a penalty out of it.

Are you drunk?

herbieflowers · 28-02-2010 10:18PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

are you honestly trying to say agbonlahor would have beaten Kuszczak with a shot? There mere fact Kuszczak was in goal mean it simply can not have been a goal scoring opportunity, hence no red card. I fail to see what the problem is. Villa were lucky to get a penalty out of it.

A goal-scoring opportunity is an opportunity to score a goal, not a nailed-on open goal type scenario which you seem to be implying. Vidic should've gone, no doubt about it.

SlickRic · 28-02-2010 10:21PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

are you honestly trying to say agbonlahor would have beaten Kuszczak with a shot? There mere fact Kuszczak was in goal mean it simply can not have been a goal scoring opportunity, hence no red card. I fail to see what the problem is. Villa were lucky to get a penalty out of it.

'goal scoring opportunity' does not mean an open goal.

i'm pretty sure you know this.

hence, by the laws of the game, a red card.

i hate to see a red card that early though, so personally, i'd have possibly left it at yellow.

Villa were lucky to get a penalty? now i know you're taking the p*ss, or are p*ssed.

Ordinary man · 28-02-2010 10:22PM

There's a lot of positives for Villa today. They have a great spine of young players who will only improve. United rode their luck at times but i think we just about deserved the win. I thought the ref was very inconsistant. Vidic deserved red in my opinion but so did collins just after. Did anyone else think that the atmosphere seemed very flat?

PHB · 28-02-2010 10:28PM

I think the reason the ref didn't give the red was because he thought Agbonlahor had overrun his touch and it wasn't a clear goal scoring opportunity. How it wasnt a booking though is beyond me.

Mr Alan · 28-02-2010 10:30PM

he didn't give it cause he totally bottled it in my opinion and the same ref has been harshly criticised by Mr Ferguson in the past for sending off United players.

SlickRic · 28-02-2010 10:30PM

PHB wrote: »

I think the reason the ref didn't give the red was because he thought Agbonlahor had overrun his touch and it wasn't a clear goal scoring opportunity.

i just think he forgot.

Mitch Connor · 28-02-2010 10:33PM

herbieflowers wrote: »

A goal-scoring opportunity is an opportunity to score a goal, not a nailed-on open goal type scenario which you seem to be implying. Vidic should've gone, no doubt about it.

but it was Kuszczak in goal. No way would Agbonlahor have scored, Dowd knew that, hence no red card. Had it been up the other end, with Diouf through on goal, then it would have been a red, but thats life.

JPA · 28-02-2010 10:34PM

He didn't give a red because it was 5 minutes into the game, so ya, he bottled it. The incident isn't even arguable.

SlickRic · 28-02-2010 10:35PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

but it was Kuszczak in goal. No way would Agbonlahor have scored, Dowd knew that, hence no red card. Had it been up the other end, with Diouf through on goal, then it would have been a red, but thats life.

so what is it?

beer? cider? whiskey?

Aston Villa -V- Man United - 28th Feb

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