What Religious/Spiritual Persuasion Are You?

strobe · 24-02-2010 06:36PM

grindelwald wrote: »

I would beleive more in yahweh, but jews believe christ never came to earth - I believe he did. i dont believe christ is god (the father the son and holy spirit) as in the father = GOD(yahweh) his son = jesus
and gods holy spirit that is among us here down on earth (sort of an essence).

I dont believe in use of idols (as stated in the 10 comandments)

I could be a one man cult - or should i say a one woman cult!

I dont like cults...... never have never will.

Jews don't believe Jesus never came to earth, they just don't believe he was their messiah (he was a very naughty boy).

cynder · 24-02-2010 06:40PM

Because i didnt come from an ape!!!!!!

the begining i can put down to gods creation ( but i still question if he made the world in 7 days where the dinosaurs fit in)

the end is more questionable - when i die im dead - i dont beleive i will go heaven or hell. i beleive ther is a heaven but no hell.

god is suppose to bring around armegedon when all the world leaders agree world peace. where i feel armegeon will be more likey to be man made. thats all linked to the signs of the end of days - as in famine - world wars- pestilence- natural disasters (earth quakes, volcanoes, tidal waves)

i dont beleive in ghosts as such i believe they are the fallen angels - demons. i believe there is a satan and the demons are his follwers.

ive read the book of revelation and its stuff nightmares are made of.

i question the length of time adam- abraham- noah and co. lived the longest was 960+ days

Dave! · 24-02-2010 06:45PM

grindelwald wrote: »

Because i didnt come from an ape!!!!!!

the begining i can put down to gods creation ( but i still question if he made the world in 7 days where the dinosaurs fit in)

the end is more questionable - when i die im dead - i dont beleive i will go heaven or hell. i beleive ther is a heaven but no hell.

god is suppose to bring around armegedon when all the world leaders agree world peace. where i feel armegeon will be more likey to be man made. thats all linked to the signs of the end of days - as in famine - world wars- pestilence- natural disasters (earth quakes, volcanoes, tidal waves)

i dont beleive in ghosts as such i believe they are the fallen angels - demons. i believe there is a satan and the demons are his follwers.

ive read the book of revelation and its stuff nightmares are made of.

i question the length of time adam- abraham- noah and co. lived the longest was 960+ days

eep

Scary post....

strobe · 24-02-2010 06:46PM

grindelwald wrote: »

Because i didnt come from an ape!!!!!!

the begining i can put down to gods creation ( but i still question if he made the world in 7 days where the dinosaurs fit in)

the end is more questionable - when i die im dead - i dont beleive i will go heaven or hell. i beleive ther is a heaven but no hell.

god is suppose to bring around armegedon when all the world leaders agree world peace. where i feel armegeon will be more likey to be man made. thats all linked to the signs of the end of days - as in famine - world wars- pestilence- natural disasters (earth quakes, volcanoes, tidal waves)

i dont beleive in ghosts as such i believe they are the fallen angels - demons. i believe there is a satan and the demons are his follwers.

ive read the book of revelation and its stuff nightmares are made of.

i question the length of time adam- abraham- noah and co. lived the longest was 960+ days

I guess church of the other for you so.

Out of curiosity could I ask you a couple of questions?

Do you not believe in evolution at all or just ape like animal to human evolution?
If you believe in Satan but not in hell where do you believe he hangs out?
If you believe there is a heaven but that when you're dead you're dead whats it for?

GLaDOS · 24-02-2010 06:49PM

grindelwald wrote: »

Because i didnt come from an ape!!!!!!

You sure didn't, you came from a primate ancestor that apes also evolved from.

Turtwig · 24-02-2010 06:49PM

grindelwald wrote: »

Because i didnt come from an ape!!!!!!

Now, now, who on earth ever said such a bizarre thing? You came from your Mammy and Daddy, and they in turn came from their mammy's and daddy's, and they in turn for theirs and so on and so forth until, as you wind back the years, various environmental pressures and genetic mutations caused ever so slight changes to become noticeable over the course of millions of years - you probably came from a homo sapien with a smaller nose than now.
Unless of course you're into the whole Stork Theory. Or, Cabbage Sprouts?

strobe · 24-02-2010 06:54PM

Malty_T wrote: »

Now, now, who on earth ever said such a bizarre thing? You came from your Mammy and Daddy, and they in turn came from their mammy's and daddy's, and they in turn for theirs and so on and so forth until, as you wind back the years, various environmental pressures and genetic mutations caused ever so slight changes to become noticeable over the course of millions of years - you probably came from a homo sapien with a smaller nose than now.
Unless of course you're into the whole Stork Theory. Or, Cabbage Sprouts?

Bullplop! Have you ever seen a dog produce a non-dog? Also what about a platypus.........for......ehhh....some reason!

Overheal · 24-02-2010 06:56PM

ScienceNerd wrote: »

You sure didn't, you came from a primate ancestor that apes also evolved from.

This is absolutely correct. Classic Darwinism collects that we Evolved from Apes. This is wrong. It would be like saying the Laptop evolved from the Cell phone. Actually, both the Cell Phone and the Laptop evolved from Microprocessors, and really fall into completely different lines of Development despite having many similarities. Though you might get confused looking at a Palm Pilot.

Similarly both Apes and Humans branched off from eachother millions of years beforehand, from a common ancestor. There is no direct link between the Ape and a Human, unless you move back to the point of the divergence.

The name of the Link species escapes me. It was publicized by Nat Geo within the last year however.

strobe wrote: »

Bullplop! Have you ever seen a dog produce a non-dog? Also what about a platypus.........for......ehhh....some reason!

I've seen a pure-breed Walker Hound produce a Non-Walker Hound with another species of dog as its mate. Ever hear of a Mutt? Yeah.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-breed_dog

Turtwig · 24-02-2010 06:56PM

strobe wrote: »

Bullplop! Have you ever seen a dog produce a non-dog?

I have and it wasn't pretty.

WeeBushy · 24-02-2010 07:00PM

strobe wrote: »

Bullplop! Have you ever seen a dog produce a non-dog? Also what about a platypus.........for......ehhh....some reason!

Are you being serious? I can't tell... If you are serious, I'm genuinely worried.

He (or no other credible human beings for that matter) claimed such a thing. This is the important part of his post which explains succinctly what has happened:

Malty_T wrote: »

various environmental pressures and genetic mutations caused ever so slight changes to become noticeable over the course of millions of years

cynder · 24-02-2010 07:01PM

Never really though of where he (satan) hangs out - think it must be the oval office or downing st........ slipping thoughts into world leaders ears.... he could be in the caves with bin laden.....

GLaDOS · 24-02-2010 07:01PM

Overheal wrote: »

This is absolutely correct. Classic Darwinism collects that we Evolved from Apes. This is wrong. It would be like saying the Laptop evolved from the Cell phone. Actually, both the Cell Phone and the Laptop evolved from Microprocessors, and really fall into completely different lines of Development despite having many similarities. Though you might get confused looking at a Palm Pilot.

Similarly both Apes and Humans branched off from eachother millions of years beforehand, from a common ancestor. There is no direct link between the Ape and a Human, unless you move back to the point of the divergence.

The name of the Link species escapes me. It was publicized by Nat Geo within the last year however.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/05/090519-missing-link-found.html

Think this is it.

I dislike when people attack Darwin's work, saying he was incorrect. He did get a lot wrong, but he got the basic idea right and science is all about refining ideas. Stupid strawman tactic to insist that is what evolution says.

Turtwig · 24-02-2010 07:03PM

WeeBushy wrote: »

Are you being serious? I can't tell... If you are serious, I'm genuinely worried.

Nah, Strobe's just exploiting Poe's Law - Creationist logic is that dumb. As for their overall levels of ignorance...wronger than wrong, maybe?

strobe · 24-02-2010 07:03PM

WeeBushy wrote: »

Are you being serious? I can't tell... If you are serious, I'm genuinely worried.

He (or no other credible human beings for that matter) claimed such a thing. This is the important part of his post which explains succinctly what has happened:

Are you being serious? I suppose you also believe the earth goes round the sun and the universe is more than ten thousand years old? Pfft. People will buy anything the lientists try to sell them.

dvpower · 24-02-2010 07:03PM

aidan24326 wrote: »

That is true. Still no guarantee we'd want to worship him though.

Sure. What is this obsession with worshiping God(s) anyway?

Gods, if they do exist, are certainly very impressive, what with creating the universe and all. But I don't suppose that a being with universe creating abilities would feel any need for humans to worship him.

The God of the bible is like some cosmic permiership footballer with an ego that matches his talents.

Overheal · 24-02-2010 07:04PM

Yes thats the Fossil, ScienceNerd. Thanks.

My this thread is going fast: Strobe in case you missed by edit, dogs give birth to strange new things all the time - we just call them Mutts. So you're being quite silly.

Strobe wrote:

Are you being serious? I suppose you also believe the earth goes round the sun and the universe is more than ten thousand years old? Pfft. People will buy anything the lientists try to sell them.

Oh. Nevermind then obvious troll.

WeeBushy · 24-02-2010 07:05PM

strobe wrote: »

Are you being serious? I suppose you also believe the earth goes round the sun and the universe is more than ten thousand years old? Pfft. People will buy anything the lientists try to sell them.

My ability to detect sarcasm/jokes on the internet sucks

Edit: Wait, I presumed this was a joke, but maybe it wasn't... I'm confused. I give up.

kowloon · 24-02-2010 07:05PM

Feeky Magee wrote: »

Results of polls like this make a mockery of the official statistic of 4-5% atheists in Ireland. People need to start putting it down on the Census...

I remember a good while ago having an argumet with the mammy over being put down as a Catholic for just that reason.

cynder · 24-02-2010 07:06PM

Do you not believe in evolution at all or just ape like animal to human evolution?
If you believe in Satan but not in hell where do you believe he hangs out?
If you believe there is a heaven but that when you're dead you're dead whats it for?

I sort of beleive in a little evolution i didnt do science so really cant got to deep into that one, minor things like say for instance the swine flu how it mutates that to me is sort of a little evoution. dont agree with the thoery of major evolution as in a fish becoming a land animal...or ape to human, if so where the missing links.....

heaven is where god and the angels live

cynder · 24-02-2010 07:06PM

when i die the end...

Turtwig · 24-02-2010 07:08PM

strobe wrote: »

Are you being serious? I suppose you also believe the earth goes round the sun and the universe is more than ten thousand years old? Pfft. People will buy anything the lientists try to sell them.

Pfft, exactly. The earth stays precisely still, it's just every single other iota of matter that moves; making it appear like the earth is going around the Sun. Whereas, in truth, the whole universe! is moving around the earth.

WeeBushy · 24-02-2010 07:09PM

grindelwald wrote: »

Do you not believe in evolution at all or just ape like animal to human evolution?
If you believe in Satan but not in hell where do you believe he hangs out?
If you believe there is a heaven but that when you're dead you're dead whats it for?

I sort of beleive in a little evolution i didnt do science so really cant got to deep into that one, minor things like say for instance the swine flu how it mutates that to me is sort of a little evoution. dont agree with the thoery of major evolution as in a fish becoming a land animal...or ape to human, if so where the missing links.....

heaven is where god and the angels live

So you believe in micro-evolution but not macro-evolution? Wow...

As for evidence, go to any good natural history museum and you will see countless examples of missing links.

GLaDOS · 24-02-2010 07:10PM

grindelwald wrote: »

or ape to human, if so where the missing links.....

ScienceNerd wrote: »

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/05/090519-missing-link-found.html

Think this is it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7tbddRS8lQ

Overheal · 24-02-2010 07:11PM

Malty_T wrote: »

Pfft, exactly. The earth stays precisely still, it's just every single other iota of matter that moves; making it appear like the earth is going around the Sun. Whereas, in truth, the whole universe! is moving around the earth.

"The dark matter engines are at the rear on a gymbal, and steering is achieved through directional thrust. Supposedly the engines achieve 200% fuel efficiency by moving the entire universe around the ship, rather than moving the ship itself, a parody/homage to the "warp drive" technology of Star Trek.[7]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_Express_Ship

dvpower · 24-02-2010 07:12PM

grindelwald wrote: »

i question the length of time adam- abraham- noah and co. lived the longest was 960+ days

I thought Noah lived for 950 years (Genesis 9:29). It would explain how he managed to organise the whole Ark thing.

kowloon · 24-02-2010 07:12PM

grindelwald wrote: »

Because i didnt come from an ape!!!!!!

the begining i can put down to gods creation ( but i still question if he made the world in 7 days where the dinosaurs fit in)

the end is more questionable - when i die im dead - i dont beleive i will go heaven or hell. i beleive ther is a heaven but no hell.

god is suppose to bring around armegedon when all the world leaders agree world peace. where i feel armegeon will be more likey to be man made. thats all linked to the signs of the end of days - as in famine - world wars- pestilence- natural disasters (earth quakes, volcanoes, tidal waves)

i dont beleive in ghosts as such i believe they are the fallen angels - demons. i believe there is a satan and the demons are his follwers.

ive read the book of revelation and its stuff nightmares are made of.

i question the length of time adam- abraham- noah and co. lived the longest was 960+ days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOGEyBeoBGM

Overheal · 24-02-2010 07:13PM

WeeBushy wrote: »

So you believe in micro-evolution but not macro-evolution? Wow...

As for evidence, go to any good natural history museum and you will see countless examples of missing links.

No no he's agreeing with the newer Ida theories: we're missing links. For example we now know we definitely did not evolve from the Ape, etc. so it stands to reason theres a common ancestor to the fish, perhaps, that then evolved into an amphibious creature, etc. etc. while the fish itself continued to evolve.

Turtwig · 24-02-2010 07:24PM

Overheal wrote: »

we now know we definitely did not evolve from the Ape,

AHA!!!!

Proof! Admitted by an evodelusionist himself!!! Thanks for being honest with us and showing your true colours.:)

Revere our Lord!! And thou shalt be saved!

cynder · 24-02-2010 07:26PM

no offence but that looks nothing like me!!!!!

we have wolves, dogs, cayotes, foxes all simular but have not evolved into eachother.

cats, lions, tigers, panthers,etc again simular but seperate.

men, ape simular but again seperate.

why havent we seen the works of major evolution like a sake turning into a crocodile, or why didnt the do do evolve or the dinosaurs.

soon you might be telling me i have links with the t-rex....

I can certainly understand why people dont believe in god thats easy.

The hard bit is believing god and suppose the only answer to that is faith. but because i dont have faith to a particular god that leaves me in no mans land. if i was catholic i would go to heaven if i was something else i would be reincarnated, if i was a jw i would go to paradise earth, if i was church of england i would go to heaven, becasue im none of these i believe when i die its the end i will just try to make the most of the life i have and to be a good person.

What will happen to you when you die?????

cynder · 24-02-2010 07:29PM

Methuselah - 969 years old.

"And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years" (Genesis 5:27)

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