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Beggars / homeless people

  • 21-02-2010 10:17PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭neil_18_


    Do you give them money? Or would you buy them tea/coffee on a freezing cold day? Or maybe a McDonalds?

    There seems to be increasing amounts on the streets lately. I don't give them money, because I can never tell if they are genuine or not, you know the ones with the shiny new nike runners!

    I would not and never have given a Roma gypsy money, not out of racism, but because everyone knows that they live in houses/apartments and begging is like a 9-5 job for them.

    But how can you tell if a beggar is actually homeless?

    EDIT : Just added a poll, its private too...

    Do you give them... 234 votes

    Money
    0% 0 votes
    Tea/Coffee/Drinks
    18% 43 votes
    McDonlads/Burger King etc
    5% 13 votes
    Nothing, because I don't want to
    0% 2 votes
    Nothing, because I have my own financial worries
    75% 176 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Borneo Fnctn


    I never give them money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭darragh16


    They come askin for change for a bus, change for a hostel, change for a cuppa tea but you're right. Who's genuine or not? I don't give them money.

    I also dont see why they sit beside ATM's, i'm not gonna give you money ive just withdrawn...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭MrPain


    Never give money to them, it only incourages them more and is most likely spent on drugs/drink/fags. I think its ok to give them food. it's usually easy enough to tell the genuine from non-homeless.


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This thread beggars belief


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    darragh16 wrote: »
    I also dont see why they sit beside ATM's, i'm not gonna give you money ive just withdrawn...

    I'm guessing it's more to do with the idea that you might be more willing to part with the loose change in your pocket if you've just gotten some fresh notes out of the wall.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭lcrcboy


    darragh16 wrote: »
    They come askin for change for a bus, change for a hostel, change for a cuppa tea but you're right. Who's genuine or not? I don't give them money.

    I also dont see why they sit beside ATM's, i'm not gonna give you money ive just withdrawn...

    correction Im not going to give you anything big enough that its a note :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    darragh16 wrote: »
    They come askin for change for a bus, change for a hostel, change for a cuppa tea but you're right. Who's genuine or not? I don't give them money.

    I also dont see why they sit beside ATM's, i'm not gonna give you money ive just withdrawn...

    They sit there because they know people stop at ATMs. It's pretty obvious.

    Although as far as I know new legislation makes it illegal for beggars to sit at ATM or LUAS stops and the like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭lcrcboy


    Töpher wrote: »
    I'm guessing it's more to do with the idea that you might be more willing to part with the loose change in your pocket if you've just gotten some fresh notes out of the wall.


    just got in before me:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭neil_18_


    On tv3 a while ago there was a show about it, and the ISPCC advised people not to give money to people begging with children, because it will encourage more and more of them to bring kids out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭darragh16


    I dont like them ones that come up to you outside a pub/club either selling roses or just shoving a cup in your face lookin for money...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭falan


    I have been known to buy a tea for them on a cold day...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,938 ✭✭✭caseyann


    Depends on what kind they are.Usually can tell.I refuse to give to travellers or non nationals.
    Buy them a chipper and tea done few times.Buy them hats gloves scarves and gave them sleeping bags few times.And walked up to hostel and paid for their night.Will not hand them money.

    My mom used to give to bang bang :( RIP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Nothing, because I don't want to.

    I really could not give a **** about them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    I used to give them money but there's far too many of them now = way too expensive. :D Alot of them tend to be far too demanding to be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭Ronan Keating


    Holsten wrote: »
    Nothing, because I don't want to.

    I really could not give a **** about them.

    Exactly. Useless crowd of feckers covering our streets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Give them nothing. If everyone did likewise there would be no beggars. If you actually care about the homeless, give to a charity which supports them. Don't enable people to live rough.
    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    They sit there because they know people stop at ATMs. It's pretty obvious.

    Although as far as I know new legislation makes it illegal for beggars to sit at ATM or LUAS stops and the like.

    It's illegal to beg anywhere. No new for new laws, just enforce the existing ones.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,938 ✭✭✭caseyann


    Exactly. Useless crowd of feckers covering our streets.


    Some of them people are some how have mental disorders no fixed abode and get nothing from our government also young kids abused by parents:mad:And this country forks out millons to other country charites and to bogus asylum seekers.

    Majority of the beggars you see on streets are not even feckin irish and are travelers or junkies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭MistyCheese


    So very Politically Uncorrect but I give them eff all. A lot of us are piss poor, not "a lot" of us have the audacity to wag collection tins in people's faces, make the pre-judgement that just because someone isn't out asking for sympathy that they're not suffering.

    Plus, I have prior knowledge of a couple of beggars who make more per week than twice the national minimum wage. Also there is the case of beggars outside of Walmarts making more than the people who worked inside.

    Charity begins at home. I'd sooner pay my Bord Gais bill than give money to beggars.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,938 ✭✭✭caseyann


    Boston wrote: »
    Give them nothing. If everyone did likewise there would be no beggars. If you actually care about the homeless, give to a charity which supports them. Don't enable people to live rough.



    It's illegal to beg anywhere. No new for new laws, just enforce the existing ones.


    No law saying cant buy them food or stuff when not begging :D


    Pity they wouldn't tell them non Irish who stand outside shops with asthma cards they aren't allowed to ask you three or four times would you like to help yada yada:mad: Trying to make you feel bad for not putting money in:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Borneo Fnctn


    I swear if I see another beggar with a baby in their arms I'm calling child services. I really do.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I drop 'em a few copper's or a Euro. Its costs a person far more to beg than it costs me to drop 'em something... 'There but for the grace of God go I' and all that.

    If someone finds their comforts in drink or drugs I'm in no position to sit in judgement over them.

    And tonight, and every other night I spare a thought for our homeless.

    God bless 'em & keep them self from harm.

    *I do not give to the Roma people*.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭captainscarlet


    Il give money to buskers no problem, but to some guy just sitting there? Not a chance.

    A Roma woman came up to me one day and asked for change of a euro, which she had in her hand, i put two 50c coins in her other, she closed both hands and walked off. The bitch!!!

    I heard somewhere that the best thing to do is just give the money to the Simon Community and they'll see that its dstributed properly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,938 ✭✭✭caseyann


    I swear if I see another beggar with a baby in their arms I'm calling child services. I really do.


    Them ones arent genuine shop them :mad: poor kids :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,598 ✭✭✭Duff


    Kick FTW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    I can barely afford to feed myself these days never mind anyone else...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    I give them nothing. In this country there are protocols for getting people off the street and I think giving them money just makes getting proper help less apealing.

    I also never give any randomers cigarettes (with the exception of hot lasses in the smoking area:P) because I don't like throwing away money. (Oh the irony :cool:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭BickNarry


    Smuggest thread on Boards.......

    Can't believe you can't curse or make personal comments yet you can be such an asshole on this forum,makes me wonder.

    Yeah jesus,people living on the streets,why would i give them money.....they clearly don't need it.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    BickNarry wrote: »
    Smuggest thread on Boards.......

    Yeah jesus,people living on the streets,why would i give them money.....they clearly don't need it.....

    They need help, and donations from random people walking by isn't the best help available to them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭Ronan Keating


    BickNarry wrote: »
    .....they clearly don't need it.....


    They probably do but I wouldn't as much as make eye contact with the crowd. They are part of the pavement to me. Whinging and cribbing for money day after day. Bloody annoying it is.


    Give to the charity instead of that crowd.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭dearg lady


    'There but for the grace of God go I' and all that.

    Just when I was beginning to lose faith in everyone, I saw your post! This bit especially, some people don't realise how bloody lucky they themselves are, and just have no compassion.


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