Diagnostic socket location

TURRICAN · 20-02-2010 6:39pm #1

Howdy.
Can anyone tell where the socket is on a honda torneo/accord.the year is 1999.im guessing it should be obd2 compliant.
have searched everywhere but cant find it.
thanks in advance.

Atlantic Dawn · 20-02-2010 6:42pm

Did you look under the steering wheel?

colm_mcm · 20-02-2010 6:42pm

try under the glovebox. that's where it is on the Accords anyway. Some are behind the ashtray too.

TURRICAN · 20-02-2010 6:45pm

thanks ladds ive looked in those positions and dont see it.is there a cover on it.or do i have to remove panels to get it.

colm_mcm · 20-02-2010 7:02pm

maybe try removing the glovebox. Think you just squeeze both sides together and it falls down, then unhinge it.

Masada · 20-02-2010 7:31pm

vague memories of it but i think its to the left of the clutch pedal under the dash.

Hal1 · 20-02-2010 7:53pm

mickdw · 20-02-2010 7:55pm

Some models didnt have the standard connector in 99 I think.

Muckie · 20-02-2010 9:04pm

Have you looked underneath the fuse box inside the car, that'd be
my guess.

500sel · 20-02-2010 11:19pm

lift the carpet on passenger side front there is a 3 or 5 pin plug. thats the dlc

JHMEG · 20-02-2010 11:37pm

That car isn't OBD-II, and may not even be OBD-I.

Look out for the 3-pin DLC 500sel mentions. You can bridge the pins in this if you have an illuminated CEL and the ECU will flash the code on the CEL.

There will also be a bigger connector somewhere near the ECU, but it's proprietary.

Xpro · 20-02-2010 11:56pm

passenger fotwell, and its not an obd compatible

unkel · 21-02-2010 12:11am

If the car is OBD2 compliant (most cars since the mid 90s are) it should be very close to the steering wheel.

If it isn't OBD2 compliant (as JHMEG suggests it isn't - I guess Japanese cars were probably a bit behind US or Euro cars) than I have no idea where it is

Fishtits · 21-02-2010 12:43am

Hijack.

07 Transit, anyone know where the OBDII socket is?

Hal1 · 21-02-2010 2:13am

Midnight_EG · 21-02-2010 2:23am

Fishtits wrote: »

Hijack.

07 Transit, anyone know where the OBDII socket is?

Under the steering wheel/steering rack/column.

500sel · 21-02-2010 12:40pm

Fishtits wrote: »

Hijack.

07 Transit, anyone know where the OBDII socket is?

Removable panel under steering wheel, whip it off and hey presto;)

biko · 21-02-2010 1:12pm

Hal1 wrote: »

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JHMEG · 21-02-2010 1:35pm

unkel wrote: »

I guess Japanese cars were probably a bit behind US or Euro cars

1996 OBD-II became law in the US
2000 JOBD became law in Japan
2001 EOBD becomes law for petrols in Europe
2003 EOBD becomes law for diesels in Europe

EOBD and JOBD are very similar to OBD-II.

The US is always first when it comes to environmental performance (which is the purpose of OBD) and the Europeans are always last...

unkel · 21-02-2010 4:13pm

I guess there must be a big difference between when most European cars got OBD2 and when it became the law

JHMEG · 21-02-2010 6:23pm

unkel wrote: »

I guess there must be a big difference between when most European cars got OBD2 and when it became the law

I sincerely doubt that. They don't even put electric windows in the back when they can avoid it.

TURRICAN · 21-02-2010 7:43pm

500sel wrote: »

lift the carpet on passenger side front there is a 3 or 5 pin plug. thats the dlc

Bingo.cheers man thats it.

@ those who said its not obd compliant, it is!

thanks for all replies.

unkel · 21-02-2010 8:05pm

JHMEG wrote: »

I sincerely doubt that. They don't even put electric windows in the back when they can avoid it.

Dunno. Not a lot of experience with OBD, but both my '94 530 and my '96 735 were OBD2.

500sel · 21-02-2010 9:29pm

unkel wrote: »

Dunno. Not a lot of experience with OBD, but both my '94 530 and my '96 735 were OBD2.

you will find not all modes of eobd are suported
the 16 pin DLC was fitted to many vehicles before they supported the protocols this was to reduce costs at a later date .
both your cars would have had a round socket under the bonnet,some had also a 16 pin DLC aswell but that was from 99-01

JHMEG · 21-02-2010 9:36pm

unkel wrote: »

Dunno. Not a lot of experience with OBD, but both my '94 530 and my '96 735 were OBD2.

The main problem I have with that is that your 94 in particular could not have conformed to a standard that didn't exist, anywhere.

unkel · 21-02-2010 10:51pm

JHMEG wrote: »

The main problem I have with that is that your 94 in particular could not have conformed to a standard that didn't exist, anywhere.

LOL, you have me doubting now. Maybe the 530 didn't have it. So when did it become a standard - surely it must have been a standard quite some time before it became the law in the US in '96 as you stated?

zilog_jones · 21-02-2010 11:00pm

The OBD-II standard was around before 1996 (possibly not completely finalized), it just was not a requirement:
http://www.obdii.com/background.html#Have

Ford cars with EEC-V ECUs should all have OBD-II ports, e.g. Mk. 4 Fiesta ('95 on), Ka, Puma, Scorpio (the ugly one), etc. I've seen mentions that these are all fully OBD-II compliant. Don't know about the Escort or Mondeo (I know they both had EEC-IV at some stage which uses some proprietary yoke).

Possibly typical of pre-1996 OBD-II: In the Fiesta Mk. 4 the socket is in the passenger footwell. I guess on LHD versions it would be compliant with the 2 feet from the steering wheel thing, but they didn't care about us

JHMEG · 21-02-2010 11:09pm

unkel wrote: »

LOL, you have me doubting now. Maybe the 530 didn't have it. So when did it become a standard - surely it must have been a standard quite some time before it became the law in the US in '96 as you stated?

Not sure when it was finalised, but in 1996 OBD-II, a US standard, was mandated in the US. Your's was a Euro car sold in Europe.

I used to have a 1997 US-built Honda, sold in Europe, and it most defintely was not OBD-II or EOBD.

JHMEG · 21-02-2010 11:14pm

zilog_jones wrote: »

The OBD-II standard was around before 1996 (possibly not completely finalized), it just was not a requirement:
http://www.obdii.com/background.html#Have

Ford cars with EEC-V ECUs should all have OBD-II ports, e.g. Mk. 4 Fiesta ('95 on), Ka, Puma, Scorpio (the ugly one), etc. I've seen mentions that these are all fully OBD-II compliant. Don't know about the Escort or Mondeo (I know they both had EEC-IV at some stage which uses some proprietary yoke).

Possibly typical of pre-1996 OBD-II: In the Fiesta Mk. 4 the socket is in the passenger footwell. I guess on LHD versions it would be compliant with the 2 feet from the steering wheel thing, but they didn't care about us

It has to be noted that these would be USDM versions. Also, no BMWs on the list.

unkel · 21-02-2010 11:15pm

JHMEG wrote: »

Not sure when it was finalised, but in 1996 OBD-II, a US standard, was mandated in the US. Your's was a Euro car sold in Europe.

My E34 530 was sold in the US too (from 1993 until 1996, same as in Europe). I'm not aware of any differences between US and Euro spec. Hell did the M60 engine in that car not start the massive BMW Nikasil issue?

JHMEG · 21-02-2010 11:27pm

unkel wrote: »

My E34 530 was sold in the US too (from 1993 until 1996, same as in Europe). I'm not aware of any differences between US and Euro spec. Hell did the M60 engine in that car not start the massive BMW Nikasil issue?

There would have been a lot of regulatory differences, so there would have been a lot of differences in Euro and US version. Areas like
a) Headlight beam pattern and general exterior lighting and signalling (running lights reqd in some states)
b) Wiring and switching as a result of the above
c) Emissions regs (including OBD-II in 1996)
d) Impact regs (bumpers on cars in the US must survive low speed impacts)
e) Speedos in mph in the US, km/h in LHD Europe.
f) Anti-theft regs are different

... and probably more. I'm no expert.

As I said my US-built Honda was not OBD-II as it was sold in Europe, but the same version sold in the US was OBD-II by law. The ECUs in US and Euro market versions always have different part numbers too, even in my current car which is sold in both markets. And typically the US version is about a quarter the price!

zilog_jones · 22-02-2010 2:25am

JHMEG wrote: »

It has to be noted that these would be USDM versions.

There are no USDM versions of any of the cars I listed

Mondeo had it from at least 1997

JHMEG · 22-02-2010 10:08am

zilog_jones wrote: »

There are no USDM versions of any of the cars I listed

All the cars in the obdii.com link you posted, are all USDM.

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