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What is a fair price for a pint of Beer?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭MaxPower89


    Id be happy paying €3.50 for a pint.

    Its paying over the €5 mark that really leaves me feeling ripped off.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 81,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    4 euro is plenty

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    €3.50 is about right. Getting two pints and needing more than a tenner to pay for them is just wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭drdeadlift


    Glenster wrote: »
    Yeah but you were on holiday, everything is great when you're on holiday.

    Besides you could theoretically do that in Ireland,

    There's usually some sort of special on some nice beer in at least one off licence in Dublin. You probably couldn't get it for 1€ but maybe €1.50, get a pizza in dominoes and cycle over to the pheonix park.

    Dont mythologize Germany, just cos you were on holday there. Most people in Berlin that day were chained up in an office typing away at spreadsheets until half five and then rushing home to bring kids to music lessons like the rest of us.

    There's great €3-€3.50 pints in the dingy pub beside Tara Street Dart Station, granted it's not a destination pub but it's nice for some quiet discussion or to watch a match with a mate.

    Cant drink beer in a park in Ireland,garda will come take it off you


  • Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Jaxton Little Backbone


    I'm in central London, in most of the local pubs you get lager for about £3.50, nice beer (like Leffe or Erdinger) for about £4.30 but there are loads of deals where you can get beer AND a burger for 3 quid, or a large glass of wine for £2.20, stuff like that.
    Glenster wrote:
    There's usually some sort of special on some nice beer in at least one off licence in Dublin. You probably couldn't get it for 1€ but maybe €1.50, get a pizza in dominoes and cycle over to the pheonix park.

    Is it not illegal to drink in parks in Ireland (serious question, I've never done it)?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    The reason drink is so expensive in Ireland, and the government have no worries heaping tax onto it, is because they know the public will pay the price, whatever it is. In other countries wheres theres no drinking culture, its easy to go for a night out and be shocked at what we pay, and what we put up with at home.
    Its ridiculous to be paying the bones of 5 quid for a pint of flavoured water. Theres no great science that goes into it. Its not a fúckín malt whiskey. It should be priced fairly, like the mass produced product that it is and the excise should be reasonable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭DamoDLK


    Doni Mack wrote: »
    Guinness €2.75. Beer maybe €3.

    Discuss the issues.

    Jammy, miss that the most about home, price of a pint! $7.50(Oz) for only an average pint of Guinness.

    Most bars/pubs here still have happy hour, so happy days!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,691 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Agricola wrote: »
    The reason drink is so expensive in Ireland, and the government have no worries heaping tax onto it, is because they know the public will pay the price, whatever it is. In other countries wheres theres no drinking culture, its easy to go for a night out and be shocked at what we pay, and what we put up with at home.
    Its ridiculous to be paying the bones of 5 quid for a pint of flavoured water. Theres no great science that goes into it. Its not a fúckín malt whiskey. It should be priced fairly, like the mass produced product that it is and the excise should be reasonable.

    Im sure if you compared the average bar salary of Ireland with other countries, you would find that salaries are higher here which is also a major contributing factor.

    Would bar staff be willing to take a pay cut if it guaranteed cheaper prices?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    faceman wrote: »
    Im sure if you compared the average bar salary of Ireland with other countries, you would find that salaries are higher here which is also a major contributing factor.

    Would bar staff be willing to take a pay cut if it guaranteed cheaper prices?

    Er, I think we can savely say no!

    Well this is the thing. The price of drink, just like the price of nearly every product and service in modern Ireland is greatly inflated because the cost of doing business here is too high. Im sure publicans are right to say they pay double the hourly wage to bar staff that a publican in the North pays. They pay higher lighting and heating costs, higher entertainment costs, etc etc. Its all a vicious cycle. You'd hope that with the way things are going prices would start coming down, but theres no sign of it where i am anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    [quote=[Deleted User];64512039]
    Is it not illegal to drink in parks in Ireland (serious question, I've never done it)?[/QUOTE]

    Probably, I've never really done it myself either.

    I used to buy booze and drink on the field outside the Pav in Trinity but that probably doesnt count.

    And I've had picnics with wine in Pheonix park in the summer months. never had any trouble.

    If you had a big beard or were swathed head to toe in tracksuits and were knocking back miller or dutch gold I'd say the Fuzz would be on you like that.

    But seriously, when was the last time you saw a police officer wandering around a park?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,537 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    bluto63 wrote: »
    Here in London I can get a pint for £1.25

    Pretty fair IMO

    where (somewhere like the east end or brixton i expect) and of what??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    I would think that €3 is pretty fair.

    To think that there are places that charge double that is really sad.

    I would like to think that I could get fairly pissed with €20.
    Pissed in a pub environment that is.
    Of course that is not currently the case.


  • Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Jaxton Little Backbone


    Glenster wrote: »
    Probably, I've never really done it myself either.

    I used to buy booze and drink on the field outside the Pav in Trinity but that probably doesnt count.

    And I've had picnics with wine in Pheonix park in the summer months. never had any trouble.

    If you had a big beard or were swathed head to toe in tracksuits and were knocking back miller or dutch gold I'd say the Fuzz would be on you like that.

    But seriously, when was the last time you saw a police officer wandering around a park?

    I dunno, I never go to the Phoenix park. Plenty of guards around Stephens Green. I just don't like the idea of maybe getting caught doing it, in other countries you can do it quite openly with no worries at all.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    i think €3 is fair.

    There is a night club near me that has free entry to members and all drinks €3 on Fridays, i'm fairly certain they aren't selling it at a loss, so why cant everyone else do the same, and not just on Friday


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I've two friends who are publicans, both went to the wall.

    Both cut their prices to the bone and had some fantastic promotions, but failed.

    In their death throes both poured huge money into their businesses but to no avail, the reasons given were massive overheads (including paying off their leases), government taxes, the smoking ban etc.

    Personally I feel its a multitude of things, our drink/social culture has certainly changed.

    I was working in bars & clubs when the smoking ban came into effect, that signalled the end of the bar trade. Then the random breath testing and lowered alcohol limits killed the mid week trade almost entirely - oh and before I forget it, the recession.

    So for a good local, and I've got a great local, I think anywhere from €3:50 for a Guinness to €4:20 for a lager is fair enough and thats a family run (and owned) pub.

    For the guy leasing a premises, I've no idea how their making money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭dublin 16 lad


    dannym08 wrote: »
    i think €3 is fair.

    There is a night club near me that has free entry to members and all drinks €3 on Fridays, i'm fairly certain they aren't selling it at a loss, so why cant everyone else do the same, and not just on Friday

    It's very simple really, people are willing to pay the high prices

    Look at any commercial nightclub in city centre Dublin. They sell pints, Heineken for example for roughly 4.75. These places have ques coming out their doors and are actually refusing people because they are full

    If people are willing to pay the high prices, why should a nightclub owner reduce prices? After all, a business is all about maximising profits

    It's the public who have the power to reduce prices, the publicans wont unless they need to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭hinault


    I've two friends who are publicans, both went to the wall.

    Both cut their prices to the bone and had some fantastic promotions, but failed.

    In their death throes both poured huge money into their businesses but to no avail, the reasons given were massive overheads (including paying off their leases), government taxes, the smoking ban etc.

    Personally I feel its a multitude of things, our drink/social culture has certainly changed.

    I was working in bars & clubs when the smoking ban came into effect, that signalled the end of the bar trade. Then the random breath testing and lowered alcohol limits killed the mid week trade almost entirely - oh and before I forget it, the recession.

    So for a good local, and I've got a great local, I think anywhere from €3:50 for a Guinness to €4:20 for a lager is fair enough and thats a family run (and owned) pub.

    For the guy leasing a premises, I've no idea how their making money.

    It is evident from recent cases such as Thomas Read group and Capital Bars etc, that the hospitality industry has been under sustained pressure.

    However.

    I cannot recall a reduction in alcohol prices served in pubs/bars since I started drinking in 1980.
    The only price change has been a price increase.
    Granted the majority of those increases are down to govt imposition of tax but the Vintners Assoc also applied increases.

    In a market that is contracting, price becomes an increasingly important issue and a decrease in price could so an increase in turnover.
    But prices NEVER come down in the pub game.

    Yes, other factors like wages/insurance/utility/costs are most certainly a factor as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    2.50 to 3 euro would be a fair price to pay, but, this would only increase binge drinking and the likes...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I've two friends who are publicans, both went to the wall.

    Both cut their prices to the bone and had some fantastic promotions, but failed.
    So the problem was people didn't want to drink because they couldn't and the publicans solution was to offer them more drink? If they where anything like the pubs around here they didn't try to hard, darts, pool, bridge competitions that just gave the usual's something to do.

    If people don't want to drink they have to start offering something else or they'll go out of business. They're all afraid of trying anything other than the traditional Irish rowdy pub.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    INT. LOCAL PUB - DAY

    AnonoBoy: Can I have a pint?
    Barman: 5 euro
    AnonoBoy: Aw, c'mon, now! Look out for a brother, man, c'mon, yeah. Check this out: why don't you let me get a sip for fifteen cents?
    Barman: My pint glasses cost more than fifteen cents!
    AnonoBoy: All right, f*ck the glass. Pour it in my hand for five.


    Crap story.
    FYP


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Tail Wagger


    adamski8 wrote: »
    FYP

    Yea I agree, did you feel your face getting red?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭Dean820


    A place in Cork called Suas gives three euro pints all night during the weeknights. The brog is 3 euro before 9pm every day. Good value compared to others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭silver_surfer


    3 quid would be a fair price for a pint I think


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭Red_Marauder


    Glenster wrote: »
    Originally Posted by Red_Marauder viewpost.gif
    I spent much of last Summer in Berlin. I paid €1 for a pint bottle of Erdinger in my local newsagents.

    Typical weekday evening was cycle down to the volkpark, €15 euro on pizza and beers with mates, lie around the park and soak up the evening sun, play football... the Germans really understand quality of life imo.

    I was in a bar today for about half an hour and paid €9 for a budweiser and a coke.

    Yeah but you were on holiday, everything is great when you're on holiday.
    I know what you mean but not really, I was working there, paying taxes and studying, I am pretty familiar with the city already apart from that.
    Besides you could theoretically do that in Ireland,
    Germans have a far healthier attitude to alcohol though. A group of guys drinking beer during the day in St Stephens Green would be looked at somewhat negatively. I'm not even sure you'd be allowed onto a bus or Luas while drinking a bottle of beer as a refreshment - you'd certainly get strange looks. In Europe, this is normal. Metro stations routinely sell beers for service users.
    Dont mythologize Germany, just cos you were on holday there. Most people in Berlin that day were chained up in an office typing away at spreadsheets until half five and then rushing home to bring kids to music lessons like the rest of us.
    So was I... like I said I typically cycled home, dumped my stuff and headed down to a busy volkpark full of families, kids, teenagers, students, people taking time out. And having cheap beers!
    There's great €3-€3.50 pints in the dingy pub beside Tara Street Dart Station, granted it's not a destination pub but it's nice for some quiet discussion or to watch a match with a mate.
    Yeah that's The Sub. It's Mon-Thurs offer I think and applies to draught beers. It is a good offer, yes, compared to elsewhere in the city. The pub isn't so bad itself either, even the effect of the fixtures trembling when a DART passes over head is somewhat charming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭dubrov


    Does anyone know roughly what price bars buy pints from suppliers and how much tax is added. Also, how much does a bar Sky Sports subscription cost?

    I don't think you can really say pints are under/overpriced without knowing the margin that pubs are making on it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 Renraw2


    I paid €2.50 for a pint of bud last night in Dignity in waterford. All drinks are half price at the mo. Makes you think of how much they've been making all all along. Vodka and redbull was €3.50. Happy days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    €2.80 - Stout
    €3 - Lager/Cider
    €4 - Pint bottle/Specialist Dinks

    Reckon that would be fair enough
    my local is doing €3 a pint for paddys day, happy days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭bryaner


    My Local

    €3.90 Guinness and Smithwicks
    €3.30 Beamish (tried it for a while had to go back to Guinness)
    €4.40 all largers

    Far too dear methinks

    €3.00 for stout
    €3.50 Largers

    Would be about right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I was very surprised to see how cheap Guinness has got in Lidl, €3 for two cans! Usually Guinness has been the most expensive drink to buy in the off license, they must see the writing on the wall too.


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