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Dramatic new photos show true horror of the 9/11 attacks

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Always thought Phill was a bit too "Odessa File" to be working with Mossad....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    mike65 wrote: »
    Eh no Run_to_da_hills thinks 9/11 was the work of Lizards in the pay of the Illuminati (plus Mossad and Prince Phillip)
    So was the burning of the Reichstag, FFS :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 100,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Corkfeen wrote: »
    Also it was the first major terrorist attack on American soil since Pearl Harbour which is fairly significant as things go.
    what about the previous terrorist attack on the world trade centre back in 1993 ?

    not to mention the whole Tim McVeigh thing


    Then again I don't remember the terrorist attacks before Pearl Harbour, unless you count the Canadian invasion where they burnt down the White House back in 1814 ( the Yanks tend to gloss over this one though )


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 100,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    911 ?

    For me the 11th September is when the government of President Salvador Allende was overthrown by the Chilean military in a coup d’état and Pinochet came to power. And all the unhappiness it led to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Did anything happen on November 9th?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    That was a terrible day indeed.
    I blame the School of the Americas and the so-called Chicago Boys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭raah!


    Overheal wrote: »
    Its all about ties and familiarity. Ireland and the US share close relations to be perfectly fair. And I think you will agree you take it a little more to heart if one of your relatives dies as opposed to say, a complete stranger.

    That's true but it was 9 years ago, in America. And I don't think the number of "close relations" between Ireland and America was in any way proportional to the extra coverage/sympathy given it by Irish news and shnit. We don't all want to know what's going on over in America 24/7.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,372 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    911 ?

    For me the 11th September is when the government of President Salvador Allende was overthrown by the Chilean military (with significant assistance from the CIA) in a coup d’état and Pinochet came to power. And all the unhappiness it led to.

    Slight amendment in case anyone thinks that it was only down to disgruntled right-wing Chileans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    raah! wrote: »
    That's true but it was 9 years ago, in America. And I don't think the number of "close relations" between Ireland and America was in any way proportional to the extra coverage/sympathy given it by Irish news and shnit. We don't all want to know what's going on over in America 24/7.
    Threads frequently authored in this forum seem to contradict otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,372 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    raah! wrote: »
    That's true but it was 9 years ago, in America. And I don't think the number of "close relations" between Ireland and America was in any way proportional to the extra coverage/sympathy given it by Irish news and shnit. We don't all want to know what's going on over in America 24/7.


    Unusual events deserve unusual airtime, and as a consequence linger in the memory for longer, whether you like it or not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭raah!


    Overheal wrote: »
    Threads frequently authored in this forum seem to contradict otherwise.

    They would suggest that many people want to know (or at least talk about) what happens in america, but it does not contradict what was written in my post.There is no evidence to suggest that the number of threads here about 9/11 is in any way related to how many people have relatives in america.
    Unusual events deserve unusual airtime, and as a consequence linger in the memory for longer, whether you like it or not.

    I'm simply saying that I don't think people should feel more or less sympathy for people/events because of how important these people or events are. Now these newest 9/11 things aren't simply telling us about the event, which would just be news, but they are trying to incite sympathy/something else. It seems that that is what they are angling at, not simply airing something unusual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    raah! wrote: »
    They would suggest that many people want to know (or at least talk about) what happens in america, but it does not contradict what was written in my post.There is no evidence to suggest that the number of threads here about 9/11 is in any way related to how many people have relatives in america.
    You misunderstood the Relatives analogy. It wasnt intended to be interpreted literally. Its the fact that the US is one of - if not you largest - trading partners on an economic and even cultural level. Its entirely understandable that you would take more interest in a story of human suffering in America as oppossed to say - Ecuador.
    I'm simply saying that I don't think people should feel more or less sympathy for people/events because of how important these people or events are. Now these newest 9/11 things aren't simply telling us about the event, which would just be news, but they are trying to incite sympathy/something else. It seems that that is what they are angling at, not simply airing something unusual.
    Im not a big supporter of the latest mention myself. But when speaking retrospectively about the reaction felt back in 2001; that is what im discussing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭raah!


    Overheal wrote: »
    You misunderstood the Relatives analogy. It wasnt intended to be interpreted literally. Its the fact that the US is one of - if not you largest - trading partners on an economic and even cultural level. Its entirely understandable that you would take more interest in a story of human suffering in America as oppossed to say - Ecuador.

    Well I'm afraid we simply have different criteria for the importance of human suffering. I would never have interpreted that in economic terms as I thought that would have been insulting to you. But I suppose the strength of that argument is that it can be used from two different starting points and still be valid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 460 ✭✭Gerty


    And you just think if they dusted a bit more, the quality of those pictures would be so much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,672 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    raah! wrote: »
    Yes it's "still horrific" but other disasters going on elsewhere in the world are "still horrific" too. I don't see why Irish people should designate extra sympathy to ones that happened in america, just because they control what they watch on tv.

    If a bomb exploded in Baghdad and killed lot's of people, i'd have sympathy for them too, as I would anywhere else in the world. I don't believe it has to do with extra sympathy just because it happened in America. It could very much have happened to the Petronas Towers and people would still have sympathy for the people who died. When the Tsunami happened in 2004, everybody was sad over it as well and they weren't American. The reason why people sympathise is because it happened to America, and because it was tragic.


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