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Georgian luger killed in training accident - RIP but was it avoidable ?

  • 12-02-2010 10:49PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,104 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    Source

    It's a long article so feel free to skip to the end ( TLDR artists will have a field day if I don't say that ) but the basic story is the poor chap has died in an accident before the winter olympics. The accident came after a string of other accidents on the course and a load of teams voicing concerns for the safety of competitors. My condolences to his family and friends. I'm just wondering if a host of professional athletes - experts in their fields are saying a course seems unsafe why wasn't something done about it ?
    The death of a luge competitor who left the track at high speed has cast a shadow over the Winter Olympics in Canada ahead of the opening ceremony.
    Georgian Nodar Kumaritashvili's sled flipped and he smashed into a steel pole at the Whistler Sliding Centre.
    An Olympic official later confirmed the 21-year-old had died as a result.
    Training was immediately suspended after the accident, which happened just hours before the ceremony to open the 21st Winter Games in Vancouver.
    Kumaritashvili's sled struck the inside of the track's last turn during his sixth and final training run, sending his body into the air and over a concrete wall.
    His sled remained on the track, and the visor from his helmet appeared to continue down the ice.
    Medical staff at the track and doctors at a local hospital tried to resuscitate Kumaritashvili, part of a seven-strong Georgian team, but the country's Olympic delegation later confirmed he had died as a result of his injuries.
    "We are all in deep shock, we don't know what to do. We don't know whether to take part in the opening ceremony or even the Olympic Games themselves," said delegation head Irakly Japaridze.
    "This tragedy casts a shadow over these Games," said International Olympic Committee (IOC) president Jacques Rogge, while International Luge Federation chief Josef Fendt said the incident was "the gravest thing that can happen in sport".
    The IOC confirmed an investigation had been launched and technical officials were trying to establish the cause of the crash.
    BBC Sport's Colin Bryce, a former British bobsleigh competitor, said Kumaritashvili was "clearly nervous going down the final run - you could see his head sticking up."
    Bryce added: "He was very scared going down the fast corners.
    "It's up to the organisers whether there is such a small percentage chance of that happening again that we continue with the race, or whether we stop."
    BBC Sport understands organisers currently expect the Olympic luge competition, scheduled to begin on Saturday, to continue after team leaders met and agreed not to abandon it.

    But top IOC officials are heading to Whistler and may reverse that decision.
    The track at Whistler, which is shared by the sports of luge, skeleton and bobsleigh, already has a reputation as one of the fastest - and most dangerous - in the world.
    In the build-up to the Games several teams had raised concerns about the safety of athletes, who regularly exceed 90mph as they compete, though Kumaritashvili crashed at a corner which had not been previously identified as a danger area.
    Before the incident, British skeleton slider Amy Williams told BBC Sport: "I just hope Whistler is safe and that there aren't too many crashes and serious injuries."
    To what extent are we just little lemmings that they throw down a track? I mean, this is our lives


    Hannah Campbell-Pegg, Australian luger

    Australia's Hannah Campbell-Pegg added: "I think they are pushing it a little too much.
    "To what extent are we just little lemmings that they just throw down a track and we're crash-test dummies? I mean, this is our lives."
    Their comments followed earlier accidents, including one involving gold medal favourite Armin Zoeggeler of Italy and several during women's luge training runs on Wednesday.
    Among those to crash was Romania's Violeta Stramaturaru, who was knocked unconscious for a few minutes and taken to hospital.
    The track is where British competitor Adam Rosen crashed during training in October last year. He suffered a dislocated hip as well as nerve and tendon damage.
    After intensive rehabilitation, Rosen made the team for his second Winter Games and was taking part in the same training session when Kumaritashvili crashed
    British skeleton's performance director, Andi Schmid, said a lack of track time for athletes in the run-up to the Games had increased the risk of accidents.
    "I would say especially for speed sports you need to have more access to tracks and whoever organises the Olympics needs to offer that," said Schmid during preparations for the Games.
    "Not only so that everyone has a fair chance but also because of the danger. We need to be careful so that these sports stay great action sports and don't become dangerous killer sports.
    "I'm not saying that will happen but some athletes from other nations are less experienced."
    Kumaritashvili competed in five World Cup races this season, finishing 44th in the world standings.
    He had already crashed in the second of his six training runs, emerging shaken but unhurt. His average speed in others runs - 88mph, - was considerably less than speeds achieved by top competitors so far.
    Prior to the Vancouver Games, no Winter Olympic athlete had been killed during an event.
    But the 1964 Games in Innsbruck were overshadowed by the deaths of two competitors before it began.
    British luger Kazimierz Kay-Skrzypeski was killed during practice two weeks before on the Igls Olympic track, and Australian skier Ross Milne died during training for the same Games.
    A minute's silence for the pair was observed at the opening ceremony.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    You were right OP

    tl;dr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,404 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    We could send over Gay Byrne and let him run amok over there for a few weeks and give us a break.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Video here

    It's not very graphic, but it shows how dangerous that part of the course is


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    These downhill winter-sports are just fraught with accidents :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,104 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    You were right OP

    tl;dr

    Least I put mine in before anyone got to it. Have never ever understood the point of throwing in TLDR appearing directly after you've just read what you're then being advised is too long. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    RIP

    Georgian luger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,104 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    Video here

    It's not very graphic, but it shows how dangerous that part of the course is

    Jesus Christ - why would you place a load of steel poles there ??? By all means hold up the roof etc again pre empting the inevitable smart ass comment but from a safety point of view that's lunacy. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,727 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    Like most winter olympic venues its brand new or modified from what it was. The host nation, Canada, refused to allow any team use it except their own, giving the Canadian bobledders, skeleton and lugers and unfair advantage. As a result when teams had the chance to use it they would have to just jump into high-speed practice instead of slower practices a few weeks beforehand which they could not due to the Canadians hogging the course.

    The Canadians are obviously more concerned with medals than people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    RIP

    Georgian luger

    I read the thread title and thought 'wouldn't it be great if this guy was actually from Georgia too!!'

    Sigh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,104 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    Just reading the comments in the thread under the video posted by my name is Url and I actually can't believe what I'm reading. Seemingly due to the lobbying of the environmentalists who didn't want some trees cut down the design of the track was forced to have those poles so close to the course. Nice one lads.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Jesus Christ - why would you place a load of steel poles there ??? By all means hold up the roof etc again pre empting the inevitable smart ass comment but from a safety point of view that's lunacy. :(

    It's pretty mental. I've seen poles before on courses but I don't think they're ever put so close to the exit of a bend like that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    I enjoy watching winter sports, possibly more than the 'proper' olympics. I'm not an afficiando by any stretch of the imagination but watching the video above I can't help but wonder how not a single member of the construction team of that track said "eh, lads, these really hard poles here, at this sharp bend. Ya, these poles.... Do ya think they might be, you know, a bit dangerous???

    Anyway, poor fella.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Video here

    It's not very graphic, but it shows how dangerous that part of the course is
    Holy crap, that's some serious speed! Apparently he crashed last week as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭Ronan Keating


    <SNiP>

    link to image removed - reported as graphic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Ah well he knew the risks.

    It's not some fella that was crossing the road and run over.

    He choose to embark in a sport that lives on insane risk and these things happen from time to time.

    RIP dude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,104 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    Really think that those pics are a bit much Ronan Keating


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    <Snip>
    Am I hallucinating or did that pix change from a full view of his bloodied face to that one of his face covered by an oxygen mask? :confused:


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 27,103 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    bonerm wrote: »
    Am I hallucinating or did that pix change from a full view of his bloodied face to that one of his face covered by an oxygen mask? :confused:

    You're hallucinating, it's two separate pics on two separate links in two separate posts.

    <SNiP>

    http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/140780/NODAR-KUMARITASHVILI-CRASH-LUGE-OLYMPICS.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭Ronan Keating


    bonerm wrote: »
    Am I hallucinating or did that pix change from a full view of his bloodied face to that one of his face covered by an oxygen mask? :confused:

    Yea. Poor lad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Spear wrote: »
    You're hallucinating, it's two separate pics on two separate links in two separate posts.

    <SNiP>

    Phew! That's ok then.


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  • Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Jolie Quick Hawk


    First thing I thought was, why the f**k are those steel things so close to that bend? Surely that's just asking for trouble?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭uncle-mofo


    Yea. Poor lad.

    <Snip>


    I know it's After Hours and all, but jesus, have some respect. This guy just died in a tragic accident. Rest in peace, don't want to be cliché but he died doing what he loved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    No more links please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    No more links please.

    why, its a valid news story?

    :mad:


    and it probably was funny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭df1985


    my god, thats some speed, i wonder wil many competitors pull out now??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,104 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    why, its a valid news story?

    :mad:


    and it probably was funny

    It was pics of the guy in question dying

    Not funny

    Not neccessary

    Not anything near valid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    why, its a valid news story?

    :mad:


    and it probably was funny

    Because the links myself and trout removed were of Georgian in his dying moments.

    I know this is AHs but just NO to that sort of thing.

    /and it wasn't funny at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Good God, it was not funny at all.
    It's a pity what some people say in order to appear 'cool' around here.

    The first thing I noticed were the steel beams. Don't even know if they were padded, would he survive. But THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PADDED, or it should have been designed another way.

    RIP to a fella living his dream.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Good God, it was not funny at all.
    It's a pity what some people say in order to appear 'cool' around here.

    The first thing I noticed were the steel beams. Don't even know if they were padded, would he survive. But THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PADDED, or it should have been designed another way.

    RIP to a fella living his dream.
    Looking at pictures of the post in the press there should be no posts at all, a padded post would still break your neck at 90mph.

    I'm surprised there was not a continuous smooth wall but there is also a balance between protection and the ability to view those participating in the sport.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,059 ✭✭✭Buceph


    This is supposedly one of the most challenging courses in the world. The Georgian guy had only been in the sport for two years. I'd question even letting someone with such a small amount of experience compete at a high level where people push themselves as hard as possible. He might have been very good at it, when things were going well. But he wouldn't have had the same natural reactions of someone who has been competing in the sport since they were a child.


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