whats the going wages for driveing tractor

bk1991 · 10-02-2010 02:18AM #1

whats the going wages for someone driveing tractor for contractor at silage time ? per hour .
job seeking at minute, most contractors are full already for silage season

bk1991

roosterman71 · 10-02-2010 07:33PM

It will be lower than other years. Plenty of young fellas willing to work long hours for pittance

bk1991 · 10-02-2010 09:37PM

roosterman71 wrote: »

It will be lower than other years. Plenty of young fellas willing to work long hours for pittance

what do u call pittance between 8 and 10 /hr

well if i can get job paying between 8 and 10 euro hr i wouldnt say no

roosterman71 · 10-02-2010 09:42PM

bk1991 wrote: »

what do u call pittance between 8 and 10 /hr

well if i can get job paying between 8 and 10 euro hr i wouldnt say no

Nor should ya.

I mean there's loads of 16/17 year old lads who'll work for, maybe €6/7 an hour cash in hand. At that age is super money for driving around all day. Depending on your experience, and if ya know who your goin working for you'll get more. Minimum wage is €8.65 or something, but thats generally ignored

bk1991 · 10-02-2010 10:03PM

roosterman71 wrote: »

Nor should ya.

I mean there's loads of 16/17 year old lads who'll work for, maybe €6/7 an hour cash in hand. At that age is super money for driving around all day. Depending on your experience, and if ya know who your goin working for you'll get more. Minimum wage is €8.65 or something, but thats generally ignored

16/17 yearolds working for 6/7 euro where are u .here they woulnt do it for 10 or more i know one 17 yo getting 25 euro hr for driveing mad money . i am 19 id settle for 7 or 8 hr woulnt be a fan of getting paid by the day as a day can be any number hrs .

bk1991

D.Watson · 10-02-2010 10:44PM

There were the best of lads drawing silage round here for €80 to €100 a day last season so I can't see wages getting any better this year.

GERMAN ROCKS · 10-02-2010 11:34PM

bk1991 wrote: »

16/17 yearolds working for 6/7 euro where are u .here they woulnt do it for 10 or more i know one 17 yo getting 25 euro hr for driveing mad money . i am 19 id settle for 7 or 8 hr woulnt be a fan of getting paid by the day as a day can be any number hrs .

bk1991

im on 8 an hour. im 18 now but was 17 during the silage season last year. i was either drawing silage or mowing.

bk1991 · 10-02-2010 11:39PM

GERMAN ROCKS wrote: »

im on 8 an hour. im 18 now but was 17 during the silage season last year. i was either drawing silage or mowing.

id be happy with 7 or 8 euro an hour anyway very hard to get job wit any of em now

bk1991

GERMAN ROCKS · 10-02-2010 11:57PM

well the way it goes here in general is if there is a farmers son or even the farmer who gives the contractor work then they will get the job first. contractors will only hire people who give them business back if you know what i mean. like the contractor i work for has both our silage cuts to do every year.

bk1991 · 11-02-2010 12:05AM

GERMAN ROCKS wrote: »

well the way it goes here in general is if there is a farmers son or even the farmer who gives the contractor work then they will get the job first. contractors will only hire people who give them business back if you know what i mean. like the contractor i work for has both our silage cuts to do every year.

well kinda same up here i am after trying i am after trying 7 contractors 5 of em have same guys as last year and two said to ring in middle april but no point on waiting on ringing on em as theres a big chance that they will have nothing .
bk1991

porscheman · 11-02-2010 12:50AM

A competent driver and operator is worth €10 to €12 euro per hour

BeeDI · 11-02-2010 10:33AM

porscheman wrote: »

A competent driver and operator is worth €10 to €12 euro per hour

A competent farmer (the ultimate employer) on that basis should be worth say €25 an hour. But does he earn that? Does he hell?

JohnThomas09 · 11-02-2010 01:40PM

bk1991 wrote: »

16/17 yearolds working for 6/7 euro where are u .here they woulnt do it for 10 or more i know one 17 yo getting 25 euro hr for driveing mad money . i am 19 id settle for 7 or 8 hr woulnt be a fan of getting paid by the day as a day can be any number hrs .

bk1991

The lad that is making 25 euro/hr is talking the same stuff I empty out of the slats every year.;)

Last year lads would have been getting 7/8 euro an hr,cash in hand.This year will be completely different this summer,there is lads that are employed all year round and will work for the summer at this work for less than 7 euro,once they get cash in hand they still get Dole/Stamp money.

I know a freind of mine was working for cash in hand last summer for 60euro a day and he did some long days.When I asked him how it was worth that kind of money,he said working for 60 a day is better than sitting at home,bored silly.Thats the way things are gone.

Famring is the same as building is now.I got a price quote on getting blockwork done on a house this time last year,the lad that priced said he couldn't do it for less than 80c a block,I turned him down and im now getting the work re-priced a year on.The same lad will do it for 45c this year.

Best advice to you is forget about Silage contracting,Hedge cutting or Drainage for Farmers.Like I advised you on previous threads,go to a farm in NZ/OZ and experience life there for a while.I can put you in contact with a NZ farm.

bk1991 · 11-02-2010 02:52PM

JohnThomas09 wrote: »

The lad that is making 25 euro/hr is talking the same stuff I empty out of the slats every year.;)

Last year lads would have been getting 7/8 euro an hr,cash in hand.This year will be completely different this summer,there is lads that are employed all year round and will work for the summer at this work for less than 7 euro,once they get cash in hand they still get Dole/Stamp money.

I know a freind of mine was working for cash in hand last summer for 60euro a day and he did some long days.When I asked him how it was worth that kind of money,he said working for 60 a day is better than sitting at home,bored silly.Thats the way things are gone.

Famring is the same as building is now.I got a price quote on getting blockwork done on a house this time last year,the lad that priced said he couldn't do it for less than 80c a block,I turned him down and im now getting the work re-priced a year on.The same lad will do it for 45c this year.

Best advice to you is forget about Silage contracting,Hedge cutting or Drainage for Farmers.Like I advised you on previous threads,go to a farm in NZ/OZ and experience life there for a while.I can put you in contact with a NZ farm.

i am looking for summer work here because i am hopefully accepted in reaseheath agriculture college in the uk to do agriculture engerring and am trying make up the cash to cover the fees . will be heading for usa this time next year to do 2nd years placement that will pay for third year .

as u say cash in hand and dole theres loads doing that ... i just dont to say a price to the contractors that will make em look else where

bk1991

JohnThomas09 · 11-02-2010 03:10PM

bk1991 wrote: »

i am looking for summer work here because i am hopefully accepted in reaseheath agriculture college in the uk to do agriculture engerring and am trying make up the cash to cover the fees . will be heading for usa this time next year to do 2nd years placement that will pay for third year .

as u say cash in hand and dole theres loads doing that ... i just dont to say a price to the contractors that will make em look else where

bk1991

Thats great news.Best of luck in the UK for next year.If you ask a contractor for a job,there not going to ask yuou how much you want.Tractor drivers are two a penny and its not hard done,any young lad with a bit of cop on can drive one.
Would not consider trying to get work on an English farm for the summer???

porscheman · 11-02-2010 07:38PM

BeeDI wrote: »

A competent farmer (the ultimate employer) on that basis should be worth say €25 an hour. But does he earn that? Does he hell?

I m sick of listening to farmers crying about no money all the time

If you are a farmer and your not making any money treat it like any other business and pack it up

Farmers get more money and bailouts from the state than anybody else and it is a discrace

mossfort · 11-02-2010 08:05PM

porscheman wrote: »

I m sick of listening to farmers crying about no money all the time

If you are a farmer and your not making any money treat it like any other business and pack it up

Farmers get more money and bailouts from the state than anybody else and it is a discrace

if you dislike farmers so much why leave reply on the farming forum?

obviously you dont know much about the way farming works.

roosterman71 · 11-02-2010 08:49PM

porscheman wrote: »

I m sick of listening to farmers crying about no money all the time

If you are a farmer and your not making any money treat it like any other business and pack it up

Farmers get more money and bailouts from the state than anybody else and it is a discrace

Here we go again

porscheman · 11-02-2010 09:56PM

mossfort wrote: »

if you dislike farmers so much why leave reply on the farming forum?
obviously you dont know much about the way farming works.

I do not dislike Farmers just the whingers who complain about no money all the time

I probably know a lot more about farming than most on this forum

PaddyBloggit · 11-02-2010 10:05PM

porscheman wrote: »

I probably know a lot more about farming than most on this forum

A very presumptious statement ....

I've read some very good advice here on this forum and I've no doubt there are some very knowledgeable farmers posting here.

BeeDI · 11-02-2010 10:05PM

porscheman wrote: »

I probably know a lot more about farming than most on this forum

Would you care to share some of your expert knowledge with us!
Give us the basis of your great wisdom!

B

bk1991 · 12-02-2010 01:47AM

JohnThomas09 wrote: »

Thats great news.Best of luck in the UK for next year.If you ask a contractor for a job,there not going to ask yuou how much you want.Tractor drivers are two a penny and its not hard done,any young lad with a bit of cop on can drive one.
Would not consider trying to get work on an English farm for the summer???

some guys i rang said '' what sort money would you be looking for ''
i have try another few guys tomorrow fingers crossed

we starting another rant on here

:D:D:D

Tipp Man · 12-02-2010 12:54PM

porscheman wrote: »

I do not dislike Farmers just the whingers who complain about no money all the time

I probably know a lot more about farming than most on this forum

If you know so much about farming then why don't you give just a couple of pearls of wisdom as to how farmers can make a living, nevermind a profit, from farming given the current market prices

go on tell us so we can all drive porsche's

maidhcII · 12-02-2010 04:42PM

Tipp Man wrote: »

If you know so much about farming then why don't you give just a couple of pearls of wisdom as to how farmers can make a living, nevermind a profit, from farming given the current market prices

go on tell us so we can all drive porsche's

I think he is making a valid point, unfotuneately. No one owes anyone an living, builders, gardaí or farmers.

I was mad into tractors when I was younger, and one day I was at a machinery dealership with my father getting bits for a tractor we were doing up. The owner called my father into his office and told him to do all in his power to keep me away from machinery and farming unless I wanted to spend my life scraping a living. He was right!

I suggest the OP keep as far away from machinery and farming as possible until he has a decent qualification or trade under his belt.

Things will change when farmers start accepting farming as a business, not a way of life... it is a romantic thing to say, but one which plays right into the hands of astute business men like Larry Goodman et al.

bk1991 · 12-02-2010 05:30PM

maidhcII wrote: »

I think he is making a valid point, unfotuneately. No one owes anyone an living, builders, gardaí or farmers.

I was mad into tractors when I was younger, and one day I was at a machinery dealership with my father getting bits for a tractor we were doing up. The owner called my father into his office and told him to do all in his power to keep me away from machinery and farming unless I wanted to spend my life scraping a living. He was right!

I suggest the OP keep as far away from machinery and farming as possible until he has a decent qualification or trade under his belt.

Things will change when farmers start accepting farming as a business, not a way of life... it is a romantic thing to say, but one which plays right into the hands of astute business men like Larry Goodman et al.

i am hopefully going to a ag college in uk to get a qualification

mossfort · 12-02-2010 10:58PM

maidhcII wrote: »

I think he is making a valid point, unfotuneately. No one owes anyone an living, builders, gardaí or farmers.

I was mad into tractors when I was younger, and one day I was at a machinery dealership with my father getting bits for a tractor we were doing up. The owner called my father into his office and told him to do all in his power to keep me away from machinery and farming unless I wanted to spend my life scraping a living. He was right!

I suggest the OP keep as far away from machinery and farming as possible until he has a decent qualification or trade under his belt.

Things will change when farmers start accepting farming as a business, not a way of life... it is a romantic thing to say, but one which plays right into the hands of astute business men like Larry Goodman et al.

i think picking larry goodman as an example was not the best idea.
(1) he controls a major share of the meat processing industry in ireland and the uk and and it is these companies that are continually lowering the prices farmers are receiving for their cattle . irish cattle prices are far behind prices being paid in the uk.
(2)larry goodman receives one of the largest sfp in ireland.
(3)larry goodman had to be bailed out of finincial trouble all those years ago by cj haughey and co.

maidhcII · 13-02-2010 12:35AM

mossfort wrote: »

i think picking larry goodman as an example was not the best idea.
(1) he controls a major share of the meat processing industry in ireland and the uk and and it is these companies that are continually lowering the prices farmers are receiving for their cattle . irish cattle prices are far behind prices being paid in the uk.
(2)larry goodman receives one of the largest sfp in ireland.
(3)larry goodman had to be bailed out of finincial trouble all those years ago by cj haughey and co.

That is my point exactly. You also won't find larry goodman too concerned about a lame heifer on a sunday night or the best time to cut hay.

What we do have in this country though is herds of farmers willing to accept whatever price AIBP & Co pay, and by and large they have no choice as they are all small and fragmented and by all accounts seem to be happy to sell their produce at a loss on an ongoing basis.

If farming was run like a business like anywhere else we would have a few big farmers who could actually deal with processors as equals.. or maybe we would have no farmers, and producers would import everything.... I'm not sure! What we wouldn't have are idiots both in an outside the IFA who continually bleat on about the family farm being a sustainable way of life when clearly it isn't.

porscheman · 13-02-2010 01:39AM

Tipp Man wrote: »

If you know so much about farming then why don't you give just a couple of pearls of wisdom as to how farmers can make a living, nevermind a profit, from farming given the current market prices

go on tell us so we can all drive porsche's

I dont claim to know lots about farming and dont own a Porsche just like the name

If it is not paying pack it in and if farmers need me or anybody else to tell them how to make a living then they really are in trouble

I am not having a go just pointing out the facts that farming is one of the only business that i know that seems to go on year after year losing money so why keep doing it and it is costing the taxpayer a fortune

porscheman · 13-02-2010 01:40AM

maidhcII wrote: »

I think he is making a valid point, unfotuneately. No one owes anyone an living, builders, gardaí or farmers.

I was mad into tractors when I was younger, and one day I was at a machinery dealership with my father getting bits for a tractor we were doing up. The owner called my father into his office and told him to do all in his power to keep me away from machinery and farming unless I wanted to spend my life scraping a living. He was right!

I suggest the OP keep as far away from machinery and farming as possible until he has a decent qualification or trade under his belt.

Things will change when farmers start accepting farming as a business, not a way of life... it is a romantic thing to say, but one which plays right into the hands of astute business men like Larry Goodman et al.

Some very valid points at last

djmc · 13-02-2010 05:05AM

Farmers get money from the EU not the irish tax payer for this money they have to keep endless amount of paperwork borrow to upgrade their farms to eu standerds follow endless eu rules and keep 1000s of department staff employed to check our records.
Then they also have to produce cheap food at below cost eg. milk at 20cent a litre and it makes over a euro in the shop.(new age slavery)
Most farmers are not qualfied to get other jobs even if the were jobs out there and can not draw the dole as they were self employed if they do give up.Most dont want to sell as they would like to pass it to their children as they got it sort of like selling graddads gold watch or selling Ireland to the brits etc.
As for grants I would rather get a fair price for what I produce any day
Farmers are the only workers I know who get less now than they did 20 years ago for milk beef grain etc.
If civel servents wages were cut to what they were 20 years ago not only would they complain they would stop the country

dar31 · 13-02-2010 09:00AM

the SINGLE FARM PAYMENT is a mechanism to support the farmers for having to produce cheap food to feed the people of Europe, following that,

the SFP is indirectly payed to the end consumer.

it has always been the policy of the eu/us etc. to provide cheap food for the masses wheather they admit to that or not is another thing

its a pity the smart educated people of this country didn't realise this, it would save this argument being re-hashed all the time

whats the going wages for driveing tractor

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