Row over plan to build Jewish museum of tolerance on site of Muslim cemetery

The Saint · 10-02-2010 09:02PM #1

Well since there seems to be a load of threads in AH about Muslims I thought I'd add another one to the mix.

A group of Palestinians descended from 15 of Jerusalem's oldest Arab families lodged a protest with the UN today in a fresh effort to prevent the construction of a "Museum of Tolerance" on the site of an ancient Muslim cemetery.

The project, run by the Simon Wiesenthal Centre in Los Angeles, has been dogged by controversy since its launch in 2004. Islamic groups and individual Palestinians complained that the site, in west Jerusalem, was the ancient cemetery of Ma'man Allah, also known as Mamilla, which housed thousands of graves dating back hundreds of years and where even today there are still many gravestones and tombs.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/10/jewish-museum-tolerance-muslim-cemetery

"Museum of Tolerance". The irony is just so delicious. So what to the lovely smelling and attractive people of AH's think of this?

mirror mirror · 10-02-2010 09:11PM

if it was the other way around ,israel would start a war over it..any build ind on top of any old gaveyard shows lack of respect.....

Iwasfrozen · 10-02-2010 09:36PM

Yeah the Israeli's complain about Arab attacks then do something like this ? Are they purposely trying to piss the Arabs off ?

Morlar · 10-02-2010 09:41PM

It's pretty much what you would expect from the wiesenthal centre.

Borneo Fnctn · 10-02-2010 09:44PM

It's about time the Israelis took their heads out of their arses. They'd want to stop expecting the world to feel sorry for them and take their side in all matters. They're doing alright for themselves.

pirelli · 10-02-2010 11:04PM

Borneo Fnctn wrote: »

It's about time the Israelis took their heads out of their arses. They'd want to stop expecting the world to feel sorry for them and take their side in all matters. They're doing alright for themselves.

Israel doesn't derive much sympathy from me anymore. The latest scandal is their harvesting of organs from dead palestinians.

The holocoust was a dreadful stain in history and the jews were deceived and misled to a very uneccessarily cruel and painful death ialthough for Israel to disguise such a hideous and monstrous crime and dress it up as anti semitism is most foul.

Museum of horror more like.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/21/israeli-pathologists-harvested-organs

Israel has admitted pathologists harvested organs from dead Palestinians, and others, without the consent of their families – a practice it said ended in the 1990s – it emerged at the weekend

The admission, by the former head of the country's forensic institute, followed a furious row prompted by a Swedish newspaper reporting that Israel was killing Palestinians in order to use their organs – a charge that Israel denied and called "antisemitic".

Borneo Fnctn wrote: »

They're doing alright for themselves.

They might not be doing so great unless they improve their credit rating. Ireland and spain have a better rating than israel according to huntingtons.

Duggy747 · 10-02-2010 11:11PM

A Jewish Museum on the site of a Muslim cemetery?

Sounds like a remake for a new Poiltergeist movie :pac: Quote from it sorta suits the subject:

Steve: Not much room for pool is there?
Teague: We own all the land. We have already made arrangements to relocating the cemetery.
Steve: Oh, you're kidding. Oh, come on. I mean that's sacrilege, isn't it?
Teague: Oh, don't worry about it. After all, it's not ancient tribal burial ground. It's just... people. Besides we have done it before.

stovelid · 10-02-2010 11:15PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Are they purposely trying to piss the Arabs off ?

I think you may be on to something here.

R0ot · 10-02-2010 11:49PM

You can't say anything bad about Jews or Israel because that will mean your anti-Semitic ..... The Jewish community go on about how bad the holocaust was (which it was I am not disputing that) but then they turn a blind eye to Israel kicking the **** out of the Palestinians and the Lebanese all the time.

The idea of the Museum of Tolerance is hilarious especially since seeing that south park episode. :pac:

ejmaztec · 11-02-2010 12:07AM

I wouldn't tolerate it, and I'm not a Muslim. If it was a Museum of Intolerance, that would right up the Israelis' street.

Wazdakka · 11-02-2010 12:54AM

The irony in calling it a museum of tolerance is pretty damn... ummm... well... Ironic really.

Also This. Off topic.. But funny :P

Overheal · 11-02-2010 12:58AM

The Only Way this would make any sense is if the Museum preserved the site, like the Castle Museum in Limerick preserves the original grounds for viewing; or the Louvre presserves and houses the original medieval structure in the basement level.

If they were just to bulldoze over this burial ground? Yeah I'd be fairly pissed. Its a different story if they want to encase the grounds rather than simply build on them. Of the grounds were going to be preserved for the viewing public, as part of a larger museum, then I would argue the Palestinian families might be taking this a bit too dramatically.

johnnyskeleton · 11-02-2010 01:06AM

Wazdakka wrote: »

The irony in calling it a museum of tolerance is pretty damn... ummm... well... Ironic really.

Also This. Off topic.. But funny :P

Jebus, whatever about the people who use cats for internet pictures, dressing your kid in a brownshirt uniform to make a pun is a new low for the internet.

pirelli · 11-02-2010 01:42AM

Overheal wrote: »

The Only Way this would make any sense is if the Museum preserved the site, like the Castle Museum in Limerick preserves the original grounds for viewing; or the Louvre presserves and houses the original medieval structure in the basement level.

If they were just to bulldoze over this burial ground? Yeah I'd be fairly pissed. Its a different story if they want to encase the grounds rather than simply build on them. Of the grounds were going to be preserved for the viewing public, as part of a larger museum, then I would argue the Palestinian families might be taking this a bit too dramatically.

Not if their dead sons heart and pelvis is pumping away inside the big fat Israeli bulldozing old bones for the groundworks for the museum.

Overheal · 11-02-2010 01:44AM

pirelli wrote: »

Not if their dead sons heart and pelvis is pumping away inside the big fat Israeli bulldozing old bones for the groundworks for the museum.

Puhleaze. Nobody has been buried there for hundreds of years. Its nobody you know.

And I guess you havent been to the King John's Castle museum in Limerick, or seen the preserved grounds there? Thats what I'm talking about. Its possible to build over the grounds while still preserving them.

donkey balls · 11-02-2010 02:13AM

Israel demanded that Sweden condemn the Aftonbladet article, calling it an antisemitic "blood libel". Stockholm refused, saying that to so would violate freedom of speech in the country. The foreign minister then cancelled a visit to Israel, just as Sweden was taking over the EU's rotating presidency

fair play to the swedes sticking to their principles i wonder would our govt have the balls to do the same:rolleyes:

marcsignal · 11-02-2010 02:23AM

Morlar wrote: »

It's pretty much what you would expect from the wiesenthal centre.

well, yeah, they should try showing some tolerance, maybe that'll throw a spanner in the works of this downward spiral, inward looking, finger pointing shit the ADL seem to be obsessed with...

Victor · 11-02-2010 02:50AM

Wazdakka wrote: »

The irony in calling it a museum of tolerance is pretty damn... ummm... well... Ironic really.

I presume tolerance is dead and thats why they need a museum.

marcsignal · 11-02-2010 03:02AM

Victor wrote: »

I presume tolerance is dead and thats why they need a museum.

rings in my head like the 'Hitler Peace Prize'

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Choke · 11-02-2010 03:14AM

pirelli wrote: »

Israel doesn't derive much sympathy from me anymore. The latest scandal is their harvesting of organs from dead palestinians.

The holocoust was a dreadful stain in history and the jews were deceived and misled to a very uneccessarily cruel and painful death ialthough for Israel to disguise such a hideous and monstrous crime and dress it up as anti semitism is most foul.

Museum of horror more like.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/21/israeli-pathologists-harvested-organs

Israel has admitted pathologists harvested organs from dead Palestinians, and others, without the consent of their families – a practice it said ended in the 1990s – it emerged at the weekend

The admission, by the former head of the country's forensic institute, followed a furious row prompted by a Swedish newspaper reporting that Israel was killing Palestinians in order to use their organs – a charge that Israel denied and called "antisemitic".

Sorry, but it should be acknowledged that Israeli organs were also harvested without consent - this was not limited to Palestinians.

marcsignal · 11-02-2010 03:30AM

Choke wrote: »

Sorry, but it should be acknowledged that Israeli organs were also harvested without consent - this was not limited to Palestinians.

well, it's the wiesenthal centre were talking about, business is business...

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Row over plan to build Jewish museum of tolerance on site of Muslim cemetery

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