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Head-shops. About three months left?

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  • #32
    geeky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    My name is URL wrote: »
    It's no surprise that a blanket ban is going to be introduced by the same government that banned Magic Mushrooms on a moral whim without any real scientific grounds for doing so

    And funnily enough, also in reaction to a bit of media hot air about this. Rather like the time they banned happy hour, remember that?

    What a shower of utterly spineless, craven, reactive muppets. Have they no gumption anymore to do something pro-actively, or do they just make a knee-jerk response when enough people call Angry Joe?


  • #33
    Co45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Co45


    This government really is stupid. Here is the one chance to regulate and control the recreational drug market. People are actually beginning to buy from head shops who pay tax and don't go around killing people instead of drug dealers. My cousin only the other day was saying the drug dealers are going mad in his area because they're losing so much money to these shops.
    These headshops are hitting gangster's pockets worse than the introduction of CAB did and now the government wants to ban them on some moral high ground?

    I just can't get over the idiocy, do they think the people buying from headshops are just going to stop buying once it's made illegal? No they will go back to buying from drug dealers who in turn are going to get powerful again and more dangerous (The more profitable a business the more competition, the more bloodshed and the more intimidation)

    IF THEY CARED EVEN AN IOTA ABOUT USER'S HEALTH THEN THEY WOULD REGULATE THE SUBSTANCES RATHER THAN PUTTING THEM BACK INTO THE HANDS OF GANGSTERS WHO WILL MIX GOD KNOWS WHAT INTO THEM JUST TO MAKE A PROFIT.
    DON'T BE FOOLISH ENOUGH TO THINK THIS IS ABOUT PROTECTING IRISH CITIZENS ITS ABOUT GETTING VOTES.


    Drug profits for the gangsters are going to EXPLODE once these headshops are banned. Nice one, Harney.


  • #34
    Biggins
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    Our town has decided to hold a public local meeting shortly to discuss their opening here.
    (We have 3)
    You can bet your backside that if the government was getting enough revenue from the products, they'd be very damn slow to shut them down.
    Don't get me wrong, I'm not necessarily standing up for the head-shops, its the very clear hypocrisy that I see coming down from those in the Dail.


  • #35
    allisbleak
    Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭allisbleak


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    I've got a whole collection of drug dealers in my basement. I make 'em fight each other.

    Brilliant

    Stoned fight club

    "the 1st rule of stoned fight club is ...... what is it agin?
    "the 2nd rule of stoned fight club is ..........?

    is it february or march? who are you? where am I?

    I would love to see the junkies on the quays be made run the 200 metres, and only the 1st 3 would score a bag.


  • #36
    Menengroth™
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 920 ✭✭✭Menengroth™


    damn it kids, drugs are bad mmkay?


    /me runs quite quickly away


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  • #37
    allisbleak
    Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭allisbleak


    seamus wrote: »
    The kind of people who run these shops are the kind of people who operate on the fringes of society anyway and would receive all sorts of suspect stock from suspect sources.

    Obviously I have no proof, it's a personal speculation - I would be very surprised if most of these shops would survive a revenue audit.

    The hemp shop is part of a franchise, they have specific rules to follow. 2 people must always be in the shop. Everything has to be legit. They have a central accounts and are completely above board.

    This is our stupid gov listening to people that should not be allowed to have opinions. We are all adults. Drugs should be legal, we need to grwo up as a society.


  • #38
    TheZohanS
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    allisbleak wrote: »
    This is our stupid gov listening to people that should not be allowed to have opinions. We are all adults. Drugs should be legal, we need to grwo up as a society.

    I think it's a knee-jerk reaction to a problem.

    At present there isn't proper legislation for testing of these drugs for say drug-driving. So you could be unfit to drive a vehicle due to the influence of these legal highs and still legally drive.

    Also the long term effects of taking these types of drugs has to be considered and research on these new drugs is very limited.


  • #39
    Dravokivich
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    Minister of Health,

    I implore you, if you are so concerned for the well being of the population who are unable to think for themselves and become easily corrupted by the debauchary of demoralised and unhealthy living, why stop with head shops? If you wish to set a precedent, I shall hope you acknowledge my complete disgust at "Fast Food" retailers such as "McDonalds" and "Burger King" who seem to think a mere few leafs in a plastic bowl is a healthy alternative to food drenched in fat soaked grease. We should also be rid, or at least license the sale of carbonated liquids, as it has been shown through many reports to cause issues with Tooth Decay.

    - Drav!


  • #40
    geeky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭geeky


    allisbleak wrote: »
    Brilliant

    Stoned fight club

    "the 1st rule of stoned fight club is ...... what is it agin?
    "the 2nd rule of stoned fight club is ..........?

    is it february or march? who are you? where am I?

    I would love to see the junkies on the quays be made run the 200 metres, and only the 1st 3 would score a bag.

    Why stop there? I want hurdles and hilarity. Actually, wasn't there a site a while back that paid homeless guys to fight each other?


  • #41
    Korvanica
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    bumFights -- not arsed lookin for proper one, although it was probably the next like down on google. That requires more mouse movement.... I remember seeing a few of those movies. one where a bum was pain 100$ to pull his tooth out, awful stuff

    As mentioned before, theyre trying to ban headshops because of a few votes. And because of an incident where a lad took something he got in a head shop, drank 10 litres* of vodka and died.


    *amount not confirmed :confused:


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  • #42
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    seamus wrote: »
    The kind of people who run these shops are the kind of people who operate on the fringes of society anyway and would receive all sorts of suspect stock from suspect sources.

    Obviously I have no proof, it's a personal speculation - I would be very surprised if most of these shops would survive a revenue audit.

    You may be quite wrong there.

    These shops even prior to the Joe Duffy Crusade were already being targeted by the garda having their stock checked for any iregularities, so seeing as the government was already ensuring they met these standards Im sure they would ahve had revenue conduct a thorough search of their financial accounts.

    Another reason for them being most likely well within their finincial obligations to government is that they were buying these products at relatively low prices in bulk and selling them at quite a mark up to customers. So no need to fudge the accounst when idiots will pay good money for crap.

    Some of these headsops owners should get awards from enterprise ireland they were only creating jobs and tryign to keep the moral of the people up during these testing times. :D


  • #43
    Ruu_Old
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    WindSock wrote: »
    And DVDs. Remember, purchasing of drug dealers funds movie piracy.

    Here you are, dahlin', 4 weddins'!


  • #44
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    geeky wrote: »
    Why stop there? I want hurdles and hilarity. Actually, wasn't there a site a while back that paid homeless guys to fight each other?

    Those bum fights were absolutely vile. I felt physically sick after watching some of them.

    The guy that made those videos is a complete and utter scumbag.


  • #45
    hooradiation
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    Vain wrote: »
    I was working in a headshop a few days ago just for a day putting up a stud wall, one guy lost the head inside the shop as they were out of his product he wanted, got kicked out of the shop and then was outside trying to get people to go in and buy the stuff for him, he was convinced the shop assistant had some and just didn't just want to give him anyway.

    Aye i've seen that too.

    Granted it was in an off-license..........


  • #46
    15Pete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭15Pete


    S0crates feels the need to remind people that unless these substances themselves are banned (which is impossible) people will still be legally able to order them on the internet and smoke them wherever.
    It is MORALLY WRONG to tell someone what they can and can not do in the privacy of their own homes when it does not affect others. Who is some white-haired, backwards fool in the government to tell S0crates what he cant smoke? S0crates did not vote for him and he means nothing to S0crates. All the people who want to close the headshops are fiftysomethings who dont like them because they don't know anything about them, and as we all know in Ignorant Ireland if you dont understand or like something, it should be banned.


  • #47
    fcussen
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    Biggins wrote: »
    Our town has decided to hold a public local meeting shortly to discuss their opening here.
    (We have 3)
    You can bet your backside that if the government was getting enough revenue from the products, they'd be very damn slow to shut them down.
    Don't get me wrong, I'm not necessarily standing up for the head-shops, its the very clear hypocrisy that I see coming down from those in the Dail.

    I suspect that given the social stigma attached to drug use (can't mention it in the workplace, can't tell the parents, etc.), that meeting will be very short on people who dissent from the hysterical bullsh1t that's been pedalled in the Irish media over the last few weeks.

    I also suspect that the number of people who do drugs in Ireland is a lot higher than the number of people who listen to Joe Duffy.


  • #48
    allisbleak
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Vain viewpost.gif
    I was working in a headshop a few days ago just for a day putting up a stud wall, one guy lost the head inside the shop as they were out of his product he wanted, got kicked out of the shop and then was outside trying to get people to go in and buy the stuff for him, he was convinced the shop assistant had some and just didn't just want to give him anyway.

    hooradiation wrote: »
    Aye i've seen that too.

    Granted it was in an off-license..........

    I think there was an instance of a hammered off duty garda, getting ejected from a harcourt street establishment behaving in exactly the same way, but of course he had card carrying friends with him, so nothing more was done.

    Apparantly alcohol is not such a problem.


  • #49
    AnonoBoy
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    allisbleak wrote: »
    I think there was an instance of a hammered off duty garda, getting ejected from a harcourt street establishment behaving in exactly the same way, but of course he had card carrying friends with him, so nothing more was done.

    Apparantly alcohol is not such a problem.

    What about the two Gardai who were arrested for drunkenly fighting across the road from the American Embassy a few years back?

    Alcohol of course played no part in their drunken brawl. They had sensibly left their guns with the barman before fighting each other.


  • #50
    drBill
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    Mr.S wrote: »
    Easier to just to go to a dealer tbh.

    If it was easier to go to a dealer then surely the shops would already have gone out of business.

    If you're young and impressionable but cautious, you're probably not going to go near a dealer and are statistically less likely to get into the habit of taking anything. Or at least it'll take longer for you to start.


  • #51
    fcussen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭fcussen


    S0crates wrote: »
    It is MORALLY WRONG to tell someone what they can and can not do in the privacy of their own homes when it does not affect others.

    It might be "MORALLY WRONG" but it's my suspicion that most people in Ireland over the age of about 45 weren't raised to believe in such a live and let live philosophy; they're far more accustomed to a father-knows-best begrudge-everyone's-hapiness we'll-drive-it-out-of-you-you-sinning-little-c*nts gossip-and-dirty-looks mentality.


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  • #52
    Gloomtastic!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,872 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Resisting the urge to expound on the contempt that Mary Harney and her colleagues in Government have displayed for legalities, or basic organisational principles of society....

    You're missing his point. Head shop owners are not running around shooting each other and innocent bystanders. Dealers are. This move will just result in more money going to dealers, and more human misery.

    But hey, what do facts and consequences matter when people are ringing in to Joe Duffy?

    Maybe Mr Big, whoever he is, was feeling the pinch and needed to close down the competition.

    Before you dismiss, remember that chap who ran Bank Of Scotland Ireland and was Bertie's advisor, laundered millions for the IRA and is still free as a bird. :eek:


  • #53
    15Pete
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    fcussen wrote: »
    It might be "MORALLY WRONG" but it's my suspicion that most people in Ireland over the age of about 45 weren't raised to believe in such a live and let live philosophy; they're far more accustomed to a father-knows-best begrudge-everyone's-hapiness we'll-drive-it-out-of-you-you-sinning-little-c*nts gossip-and-dirty-looks mentality.

    This is very true and it needs to change. Many people, especially older ones from rural, church-dominated Ireland need to develop the habit of independent thinking and not just let themselves be told what is safe and what isnt, what is fair and what isnt etc.
    S0crates is however pleased at how his educated generation is supporting the headshops even if they do not use them. The more educated you are, the more you understand and the more tolerant you become. Thankfully our nation becomes more liberal everyday as the ignorant old folks die out and more teenagers become eligible to vote. Fianna Fail are on their last legs and they know it.


  • #54
    cantankerous
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    S0crates wrote: »
    Thankfully our nation becomes more liberal everyday as the ignorant old folks die out and more teenagers become eligible to vote. Fianna Fail are on their last legs and they know it.


    That's what they want you to think while they keep letting muslims flood into europe to bolster the conservative authoritarian vote.


  • #55
    Stercus Accidit
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    Time to take up heroin lads.


  • #56
    hooradiation
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    cantankerous wrote: »
    That's what they want you to think while they keep letting muslims flood into europe to bolster the conservative authoritarian vote.

    Ohh "they", I hate those guys!

    wait, who are "they" again.....


  • #57
    Cuddlesworth
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    Stercus Accidit wrote: »
    Time to take up heroin lads.
    cantankerous wrote: »
    That's what they want you to think while they keep letting muslims flood into europe to bolster the conservative authoritarian vote.

    I think you two guys would get along great.


  • #58
    padi89
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    Vain wrote: »
    I was working in a headshop a few days ago just for a day putting up a stud wall, one guy lost the head inside the shop as they were out of his product he wanted, got kicked out of the shop and then was outside trying to get people to go in and buy the stuff for him, he was convinced the shop assistant had some and just didn't just want to give him anyway.

    I kept my hammer close to hand for the day, that guy looked like a pure nut case walking around outside the shop, eventually the assistant gave him something to get him to leave.

    Was a funny day, watching knackers and scum come in looking for something called queen bee, of course it was all sold out so alot of unhappy non high people that day, must of them got xxx instead.

    Was a funny day, from young guys (over 18) to knackers, to a mother with her kid, to people in late 50s ealry 60s, alot of high people going around:rolleyes:

    No different to a Pub or Off Licence then?


  • #59
    AnonoBoy
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    Stercus Accidit wrote: »
    Time to take up heroin lads.

    Ah the buzz is great but it does give me an awful jippy tummy.


  • #60
    Co45
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    drBill wrote: »
    If you're young and impressionable but cautious, you're probably not going to go near a dealer and are statistically less likely to get into the habit of taking anything. Or at least it'll take longer for you to start.

    Your a bit out of touch bill. The image of shady, knife wielding, dealers selling drugs in corners of the north inner city is an exception not a rule. Drugs are everywhere. Just because it's not as noticable in areas like Dalkey doesn't mean it's not there. Most people's dealers are their peers and people who live in their area.


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  • #61
    znv6i3h7kqf9ys
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    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Minister of Health,

    I implore you, if you are so concerned for the well being of the population who are unable to think for themselves and become easily corrupted by the debauchary of demoralised and unhealthy living, why stop with head shops? If you wish to set a precedent, I shall hope you acknowledge my complete disgust at "Fast Food" retailers such as "McDonalds" and "Burger King" who seem to think a mere few leafs in a plastic bowl is a healthy alternative to food drenched in fat soaked grease. We should also be rid, or at least license the sale of carbonated liquids, as it has been shown through many reports to cause issues with Tooth Decay.

    - Drav!
    Never happen. Mary is their biggest customer


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