Head-shops. About three months left?

Biggins · 10-02-2010 10:52AM #1

Well it looks like Headshops will be made illegal in or around 3 months.
Picked upon the following while reading about a current medical card fiasco (where the Gardi had to be called in).

...the Health Minister said she expected to have regulations in place to govern 'head shops' selling substances that can be used to obtain legal highs by the end of this month but it would take another three months before they were ratified by the European Commission. Difficulties arise because of the problems in banning chemical compounds which need to be used in areas like the plastics industry.

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Anyone who is in the business and is leasing out property for these shops, your time is now more numbered. It won't kill off the business for the dealers but it will make life more awkward again and behind closed doors more so.

genericguy · 10-02-2010 10:54AM

fcuk it, i'll just go to a dealer for some illegal weed, and give him a few extra bob towards his bullets to spite harney.

WindSock · 10-02-2010 10:56AM

genericguy wrote: »

fcuk it, i'll just go to a dealer for some illegal weed, and give him a few extra bob towards his bullets to spite harney.

And DVDs. Remember, purchasing of drug dealers funds movie piracy.

Cookie_Monster · 10-02-2010 10:58AM

WindSock wrote: »

And DVDs. Remember, purchasing of drug dealers funds movie piracy.

YAR! Keep buyin me DVDs matey!

geeky · 10-02-2010 11:00AM

Victory for stupid.

Wazdakka · 10-02-2010 11:02AM

I had actually been smoking the legal stuff for a while, and know a few people who take those legal pills every now and again.

It wasn't really the same as the real thing but we figured, hey, It's easier to get and legal.

Looks like I'm going back to buying my mind altering substances from drug dealers.

Yeaaa... Good job there nanny state.
See how this works in the real world yet?

seamus · 10-02-2010 11:09AM

If Harney can come up with rock solid legislation to control all current and future substances without affecting the existing legal substances (such as cigarettes and alcohol), we should just hand her the Taoiseach's badge.

They can't ban head shops, they have no legal basis on which to do so. The shops will continue to find new substances with which people can get legal highs, and they also sell all manner of drug paraphenalia too anyway.

They only way they'll get them is through tax evasion. Most of these shops probably don't have up-to-date or legitimate accounts.

Vain · 10-02-2010 11:09AM

I was working in a headshop a few days ago just for a day putting up a stud wall, one guy lost the head inside the shop as they were out of his product he wanted, got kicked out of the shop and then was outside trying to get people to go in and buy the stuff for him, he was convinced the shop assistant had some and just didn't just want to give him anyway.

I kept my hammer close to hand for the day, that guy looked like a pure nut case walking around outside the shop, eventually the assistant gave him something to get him to leave.

Was a funny day, watching knackers and scum come in looking for something called queen bee, of course it was all sold out so alot of unhappy non high people that day, must of them got xxx instead.

Was a funny day, from young guys (over 18) to knackers, to a mother with her kid, to people in late 50s ealry 60s, alot of high people going around:rolleyes:

AnonoBoy · 10-02-2010 11:12AM

WindSock wrote: »

And DVDs. Remember, purchasing of drug dealers funds movie piracy.

I've got a whole collection of drug dealers in my basement. I make 'em fight each other.

Maybe I wouldn't have bought so many if I'd known I was funding movie piracy though.

Have you seen The Transformers 2 Lad? Yaaarrrrrr!!!!

WindSock · 10-02-2010 11:15AM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

YAR! Keep buyin me DVDs matey!

Can I have 'A Bridge Too Faaaarrrrrr' please?

Buford T Justice · 10-02-2010 11:15AM

seamus wrote: »

They only way they'll get them is through tax evasion. Most of these shops probably don't have up-to-date or legitimate accounts.

Way to go Seamus - just tell the government how to do it.

10-02-2010 11:21AM

Banning them won't have any major effect imo.

The people that were taking legal highs will take illegal highs now because there will always be people who take drugs. Some people like to get high, it's always been like that and always will be.

Anyway, what a lot of people are doing now is buying Methadrone (not a typo) online from England. Supposedly it's a quarter of the cost and completely legal.

There will always be loopholes.

Cookie_Monster · 10-02-2010 12:01PM

Mr.S wrote: »

Easier to just to go to a dealer tbh.

Easier again just not to do it.

geeky · 10-02-2010 12:05PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I've got a whole collection of drug dealers in my basement. I make 'em fight each other.

Put a live stream up on the net, man. You'll make a fking mint.

geeky · 10-02-2010 12:05PM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Easier again just not to do it.

Indeed, because 'just say no' has been so successful. :rolleyes:

JimmyCrackCorn · 10-02-2010 12:07PM

Buy buy overpriced Potpouri, cattle wormer, plant food and other crap that'll make you high without FDA trials.

Good head shops will survive, the ones selling poo to survive wont. Next health food stores.

c0rk3r · 10-02-2010 12:15PM

Wazdakka wrote: »

I had actually been smoking the legal stuff

legal.

Looks like I'm going back to buying my mind altering substances from drug dealers.

I really dislike people saying that. "Legal" as if you have any respect or care for legalities. If you did you wouldn't buy drugs from a dealer, which i have no problem with by the way just don't hide behind "legal" because where drugs are concerned it means nothing to you.

geeky · 10-02-2010 12:19PM

Username-in-use wrote: »

I really dislike people saying that. "Legal" as if you have any respect or care for legalities. If you did you wouldn't buy drugs from a dealer, which i have no problem with by the way just don't hide behind "legal" because where drugs are concerned it means nothing to you.

Resisting the urge to expound on the contempt that Mary Harney and her colleagues in Government have displayed for legalities, or basic organisational principles of society....

You're missing his point. Head shop owners are not running around shooting each other and innocent bystanders. Dealers are. This move will just result in more money going to dealers, and more human misery.

But hey, what do facts and consequences matter when people are ringing in to Joe Duffy?

Cookie_Monster · 10-02-2010 12:20PM

geeky wrote: »

Indeed, because 'just say no' has been so successful. :rolleyes:

Maybe they need to make it bigger

"Just say NO" splayed down the side of Liberty Hall for instance :pac:

AnonoBoy · 10-02-2010 12:22PM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Maybe they need to make it bigger

"Just say NO" splayed down the side of Liberty Hall for instance :pac:

But you know someone would have a 'B' spraypainted on to the end of that before the week is up.

10-02-2010 12:24PM

It's got to the point where I'd rather my money went to some enterprising young knacker than to a goverment who is making it a priority to close safe headshops. If they wont happily take tax from headshops in a recession, then give me my 2% levy back.

Korvanica · 10-02-2010 12:26PM

seamus wrote: »

Most of these shops probably don't have up-to-date or legitimate accounts.

Why would that be? They are legitimate businesses. Thats like saying most corner shops don't have up-to-date or legitimate accounts.

geeky · 10-02-2010 12:27PM

Korvanica wrote: »

Why would that be? They are legitimate businesses. Thats like saying most corner shops don't have up-to-date or legitimate accounts.

Which may also be true!

dan719 · 10-02-2010 12:28PM

Biggins wrote: »

Well it looks like Headshops will be made illegal in or around 3 months.
Picked upon the following while reading about a current medical card fiasco (where the Gardi had to be called in).

Source

Anyone who is in the business and is leasing out property for these shops, your time is now more numbered. It won't kill off the business for the dealers but it will make life more awkward again and behind closed doors more so.

Why is this a good thing? Jobs lost, less revenue for the government, yay, lets all celebrate. :rolleyes:

TheZohanS · 10-02-2010 12:29PM

Vain wrote: »

I was working in a headshop a few days ago just for a day putting up a stud wall, one guy lost the head inside the shop as they were out of his product he wanted, got kicked out of the shop and then was outside trying to get people to go in and buy the stuff for him, he was convinced the shop assistant had some and just didn't just want to give him anyway.

That could easily have been a junkie looking for some legal gear.

Pesonally I think all the legal high stuff sold in head shops is nasty, coffee shops ftw, but that's a whold different thread.

Korvanica · 10-02-2010 12:32PM

geeky wrote: »

Which may also be true!

true yea, but Seamus neglected to point that out. Aiming his comment only at head shops, basically saying that because they sell what they sell they must be dodgy..

TheZohan wrote: »

, coffee shops ftw, but that's a whold different thread.

we can only dream, and take regular trips to holland

Bonito · 10-02-2010 12:33PM

Wait wait wait. If the shops are going to be made illegal what about what they sell in the shop??? Anybody say "Stash up" :pac:

Korvanica · 10-02-2010 12:34PM

Bonito wrote: »

Wait wait wait. If the shops are going to be made illegal what about what they sell in the shop??? Anybody say "Stash up" :pac:

Massive clearance sales :eek::eek:

seamus · 10-02-2010 12:34PM

Korvanica wrote: »

Why would that be? They are legitimate businesses. Thats like saying most corner shops don't have up-to-date or legitimate accounts.

The kind of people who run these shops are the kind of people who operate on the fringes of society anyway and would receive all sorts of suspect stock from suspect sources.

Obviously I have no proof, it's a personal speculation - I would be very surprised if most of these shops would survive a revenue audit.

Bonito · 10-02-2010 12:37PM

TheZohan wrote: »

That could easily have been a junkie looking for some legal gear.

Pesonally I think all the legal high stuff sold in head shops is nasty, coffee shops ftw, but that's a whold different thread.

You mean dead thread! It was booted off to the tCn

My name is URL · 10-02-2010 12:38PM

Only thing I've ever bought in any of those shops is Rizlas, and they're available everywhere

I can't say I'm sorry to see these places go though, they're springing up too much.. the stuff they sell needs more research done into it.. it's no surprise that a blanket ban is going to be introduced by the same government that banned Magic Mushrooms on a moral whim without any real scientific grounds for doing so

Head-shops. About three months left?

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