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Headshops; Should they be allowed?

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  • #2
    bluto63
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    Yes

    Now the more important question:

    Do we need another thread about headshops?

    No


  • #3
    smellslikeshoes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    This whole anti headshop thing from the government lately just seems like a convenient way to distract the public from goverment failings in other areas to be honest


  • #4
    toiletduck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭toiletduck


    The only part I agree with is "that nobody under 18 should be permitted into these stores." But then again every head shop I've seen seems to have this policy in place.

    But no, I don't need the government telling me what I can and can't do if it doesn't involve anyone else.


  • #5
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    More head, less headshops please.


  • #6
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes, adults should be able to decide for themselves if they want to take something.. especially if it's legal.


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  • #7
    PauloMN
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    No thanks.

    Glorified drug dealers and scum of the earth. Greedy bastards preying on the weak. I'd be quite happy for the owners of such shops to be shot.


  • #8
    bluto63
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    PauloMN wrote: »
    No thanks.

    Glorified drug dealers and scum of the earth. Greedy bastards preying on the weak. I'd be quite happy for the owners of such shops to be shot.

    They're hardly glorified. I'd glorify a drug dealer over this guy, at least he sells proper drugs


  • #9
    dblennon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 185 ✭✭dblennon


    PauloMN wrote: »
    No thanks.

    Glorified drug dealers and scum of the earth. Greedy bastards preying on the weak. I'd be quite happy for the owners of such shops to be shot.

    That dosen't make any sense that logic works for all pubs aswell!!


  • #10
    znv6i3h7kqf9ys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 497 ✭✭znv6i3h7kqf9ys


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yes, adults should be able to decide for themselves if they want to take something.. especially if it's legal.
    +1. Better them going there than street dealers.


  • #11
    Buford T Justice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055622784


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  • #12
    aDeener
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    dblennon wrote: »
    That dosen't make any sense that logic works for all pubs aswell!!

    and you could also say that for bookmakers and take aways


  • #13
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    PauloMN wrote: »
    Greedy bastards preying on the weak. I'd be quite happy for the owners of such shops to be shot.

    Nice balanced view there. Well done.


  • #14
    The Mad Hatter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    bluto63 wrote: »
    Yes

    "Yes people should be allowed to set up headshops or the government should make them illegal"?


  • #15
    Red_Marauder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭Red_Marauder


    Dr Jim McDaid TD on RTE Whineline at the moment providing the show with some rare common sense in opposition of a ban.

    Poor old Joe can't get his head around it.


  • #16
    dylano_k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 809 ✭✭✭dylano_k


    The only thing we're OD'n on here is Hempshop Threads


  • #17
    Lux23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    I don't see how it matters. From I have heard people just buy stuff in there when they can't get their hands on the real thing.


  • #18
    bluto63
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    The Mad Hatter wrote: »
    "Yes people should be allowed to set up headshops or the government should make them illegal"?

    I was answering the question in the poll and the thread title. Since there was more balance towards that being the question, I'm surprised you really needed to clarify which I was referring to


  • #19
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    If I was 16 I'd have voted "yes", but I'm an old fart at 44 now so voted "no".


  • #20
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Evelyn Obnoxious Weekend wrote: »
    If I was 16 I'd have voted "yes", but I'm an old fart at 44 now so voted "no".

    16 year old you is far more sensible than current you, how odd.


  • #21
    Shulgin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Shulgin


    We need shops that sell Cannabis,MDMA , LSD, and other drugs who`s risks are known, and are tightly controlled and licenced, and under no circumstances sell to minors.

    Then there would be no need for all the newer drugs with their unknown risks.


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  • #22
    Hank_Jones
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    Just wondering if any of you have actually taken any of the products that head shops sell?

    The whole idea of the products is that they mimic other illegal drugs.

    I voted no, and for good reason.


  • #23
    genericguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    fcuking hempshop threads.

    hundreds of fights every weekend in this country because people drink too many pints. families break up, people commit suicide, people murder other people, husbands batter wives and so on. drinking is legal.

    about 30% of the country buys cigarettes on a daily basis. these, when used in accordance with the instructions from the manufacturers, will cause you serious health problems, and will give you cancer. these are legal.

    hundreds of people smoke/eat headshop stuff every weekend. people get stomach cramps from laughing too much, eat all the frosties in the house, and fall asleep with one sock still on. This is apparently much more dangerous, and will soon be illegal.

    only recorded fatalities from headshop products have involved one guy who drank a skinful of gargle after doing shrooms, which all headshop owners vehemently advise against, and a couple of others who had also taken a cocktail of illegals.

    the government doesn't care about your health, they just want you to look somewhere else while they figure out more ways to rape your wallet.


  • #24
    Ri_Nollaig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    aDeener wrote: »
    and you could also say that for bookmakers and take aways

    take aways? well I guess you are weaker when your hungry


  • #25
    Prof.Badass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    You can't have a blanket ban on "headshops" or "legal highs". How would you even define them in the law?

    It's sad that so many clueless idiots are being given a voice in the mainstream media.


  • #26
    xzanti
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    Hank_Jones wrote: »
    Just wondering if any of you have actually taken any of the products that head shops sell?

    The whole idea of the products is that they mimic other illegal drugs.

    I voted no, and for good reason.

    Care to share?

    I have tried the 'blow' stuff at a couple of parties over Christmas, quite enjoyed myself and felt fine the following day. I must add that everybody at the party was taking the stuff in moderation and in a mature manner and no ambulances or priests needed to be called.

    That's my experience.


  • #27
    Shulgin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Shulgin


    Hank_Jones wrote: »
    Just wondering if any of you have actually taken any of the products that head shops sell?

    The whole idea of the products is that they mimic other illegal drugs.

    Yes.

    Mephedrone is a decent cocaine/mdma substitute, but the long term side effects are likely to be dodgy so I wouldn`t try it again.

    The smoking/vaping blends are a pretty decent substitute for cannabis. I do like some from time to time. Great for a quet night in with mega munchies. Quite good!

    Kratom is pretty much like a weak opiate with very pleasant relaxing effects. Great for a quiet night in. I do like it every now and again. Its 100% natural too.


    They are the only things in a headshop that interest me.


  • #28
    Shulgin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Shulgin


    vinylmesh wrote: »
    You can't have a blanket ban on "headshops" or "legal highs". How would you even define them in the law?

    It's sad that so many clueless idiots are being given a voice in the mainstream media.


    Id say it`s because the huge amounts of people who like legal and illegal drugs are afraid to voice their opinion in public. Drugs are a huge stigma and you can`t be on the pro side without fear of persecution.

    Fair dues to Jim mcDaid for going against the norm, even if he was a little out in his argument.


  • #29
    DazMarz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    The government needs a scapegoat to make people remember that they pissed the Celtic Tiger away, that they waste more money than is thought possible and that they are the most useless crowd god/allah/buddha/Richard Dawkins ever shovelled guts into.

    They are incredibly efficient at rattling their sabre to acheive their own ends and to make it look as if they are earning their money. The headshops are unfortunately just the perfect target.


  • #30
    AKA pat sheen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭AKA pat sheen


    Shulgin wrote: »
    Drugs are a huge stigma and you can`t be on the pro side without fear of persecution.

    Fair dues to Jim mcDaid for going against the norm, even if he was a little out in his argument.

    Jim McDaid was clear, and said it repeatedly, he was against headshops and wanted them closed.


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  • #31
    Dempsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Yes, headshops should be allowed for reasons explained already in this thread.

    Like with cigarettes & alcohol, people should have a choice.


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