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Hi all, please see this major site announcement: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427594/boards-ie-2026

J. D. Salinger has just died, aged 91.

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  • #32
    Jesus Juice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭Jesus Juice


    Latchy wrote: »
    JD who ??
    JD and coke.


  • #33
    PK2008
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    Elessar wrote: »
    Someone explain the whole point and/or meaning behind Catcher in the Rye.

    No one I ever asked, even teachers, were able to answer that.

    Pfff, if you have to go round asking people the meaning of books then reading aint for you.


  • #34
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Jesus Juice wrote: »
    JD and coke.
    Easy on the Rye


  • #35
    Elessar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,260 ✭✭✭Elessar


    PK2008 wrote: »
    Pfff, if you have to go round asking people the meaning of books then reading aint for you.

    Another atypical response to that question, as if I am a philistine or something.


  • #36
    Red_Marauder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭Red_Marauder


    What an amazing read Catcher In the Rye was, totally unforgettable in my opinion.

    But despite that whenever I think of Salinger, I inevitably think first of my all time favourite story title, and it belongs to another of his works - "To Esmé - With Love and Squalor"


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  • #37
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Elessar wrote: »
    Someone explain the whole point and/or meaning behind Catcher in the Rye.

    No one I ever asked, even teachers, were able to answer that.

    Here's a clue........... the protagonists middle name is Morrissey.


  • #38
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,082 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    To me, the whole point with the story was innocence, and how it's being lost to adults and phonies.


  • #39
    bonerm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    walshb wrote: »
    To me, the whole point with the story was innocence, and how it's being lost to adults and phonies.

    That's it in a nutshell. The Catcher in the Rye was the one who saved children from becoming adults/phonies.


  • #40
    Solvo Slep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41 ✭Solvo Slep


    Elessar wrote: »
    Another atypical response to that question, as if I am a philistine or something.

    "Atypical?"


  • #41
    Duddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭Duddy


    :( RIP

    Was just looking at the wiki pages for JD and Catcher in the Rye last night.
    Read the book last year and loved it, totally does stick with you.


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  • #42
    metaoblivia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    Elessar wrote: »
    Someone explain the whole point and/or meaning behind Catcher in the Rye.

    A few people have answer your question very simply, but I just want to point out that while phoniness is a big motif in the novel, it's also important to remember that Holden Caufield is an unreliable narrator. He is emotionally unstable and therefore has a skewed view of the world. So the idea that adults are phony and children are innocent and he's trying to save them by acting as the catcher in the rye and catching the children before they fall into adulthood - yes that's true, in Holden's mind. A more thorough analysis of the book reveals a deeper message than that.

    In short, the book is basically a character study, and Holden Caufield may be one of literature's first emo kids.

    And RIP Salinger. One of the best writers of the 20th century. A Perfect Day For a Banana Fish and Pretty Mouth and Green My Eyes are two of my favorite short stories.


  • #43
    John I am
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭John I am


    "If you really want to hear about it, the first thing you'll probably want to know is where I was born, and what my lousy childhood was like, and how my parents were occupied before they had me, and all that David Copperfield kind of crap...


    your creations will last a long time yet

    RIP J D Salinger


  • #44
    opinion guy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,000 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    bonerm wrote: »
    You're all phonies!
    :D
    tech77 wrote: »
    This thread is kinda phony. :cool:
    :D
    Elessar wrote: »
    Someone explain the whole point and/or meaning behind Catcher in the Rye.

    No one I ever asked, even teachers, were able to answer that.

    In a nutshell - people suck
    metaoblivia wrote: »
    In short, the book is basically a character study, and Holden Caufield may be one of literature's first emo kids.

    Hmmm.....in the voice of a plasticine wrestling referee....I'll allow it....

    Another atypical response to that question, as if I am a philistine or something.

    No not a philistine...but a phony...certainly..:P


  • #45
    Corkfeen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    RIP, only read it about a year but t'was a fantastic read.


  • #46
    Bodhidharma
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Bodhidharma


    Terrible loss, especially since he had just gotten back in the public eye with his emphatic praise for Terminator:Salvation

    http://www.theonion.com/content/news/new_terminator_movie_brings_j_d


  • #47
    Voodu Child
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    it was catcher in the ry what started my life long love afair with litrature

    RIP dude


  • #48
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Ah crap.
    Still though. Might mean some posthumous publications hopefully?
    I know it's kinda heartless to say. Such an intriguing charactar.
    RIP.


  • #49
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    I wasn't mad about the book either. It's my brother's favourite book and he told me to read it, but I was underwhelmed. Think I was 16 when I read it.


  • #50
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    To me Catcher is just an absolute revelation of a book. Maybe I read it at the right time in my life or something. Don't know.
    It's just incredible.


  • #51
    Crann na Beatha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


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  • #52
    John I am
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭John I am


    Iolar wrote: »
    Sad loss,RIP and to make matters worse for me the man(my english teacher) who introduced me to "catcher in the rye" committed suicide the other night :( RIP to Mr Canty too

    Sorry to hear that.


  • #53
    Celly Smunt
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    man J.D,what a prince,to hear he died.....That killed me.


  • #54
    John I am
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭John I am


    “'Anyway, I keep picturing all these little kids playing some game in this big field of rye and all. Thousands of little kids, and nobody's around - nobody big, I mean - except me. And I'm standing on the edge of some crazy cliff. What I have to do, I have to catch everybody if they start to go over the cliff - I mean if they're running and they don't look where they're going I have to come out from somewhere and catch them. That's all I'd do all day. I'd just be the catcher in the rye and all.”


  • #55
    KonFusion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭KonFusion


    RIP indeed

    For me, Holden Caulfield just died too :(


  • #56
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    was it made into a movie?? catcher in the rye


  • #57
    mossy1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9 ✭mossy1982


    "You're not the first person who was ever confused and frightened and even sickened by human behaviour. You're by no means alone on that score, you'll be excited and stimulated to know. Many, many men have been just as troubled morally and spiritually as you are right now. Happily, some of them kept records of their troubles. You'll learn from them if you want to. Just as some day, if you have something to offer, someone will learn something from you. It's a beautiful reiprocal arrangement. And it isn't education. It's history. It's poetry."

    Definitely my favourite book.


  • #58
    mossy1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9 ✭mossy1982


    fryup wrote: »
    was it made into a movie?? catcher in the rye


    Salinger blocked any attempts to make it into a movie through legal challenges. He hated the movies. He talks about it in the book.


  • #59
    Dartz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭Dartz


    opinion guy wrote: »
    I remember really identifing with that book when our english teacher made us read it. That doens't seem like a healthy thing in retrospect.

    Anyhow. Sad to hear this news

    Healthier than identifying with Richard Bachmann's, Rage mind you..


  • #60
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    mossy1982 wrote: »
    Salinger blocked any attempts to make it into a movie through legal challenges. He hated the movies. He talks about it in the book.

    well now that he's passed away, maybe its time to get out the popcorn;)

    so who would you get to direct & star in it....


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  • #61
    John I am
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭John I am


    mossy1982 wrote: »
    Salinger blocked any attempts to make it into a movie through legal challenges. He hated the movies. He talks about it in the book.

    To right certain books should be left the literary classics they are, you think in the medium of words and certain books plug into your head, they are rare and when they come such as catcher in the rye they remain best sellers as this one has been since 1965. A movie would **** up this book.


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