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What Happens When We Die?

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  • #62
    bonerm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    What happens when you die is exactly like what happens when you leave a job.

    1. You think you're moving onto a better place. (you're not).
    2. You think the people you leave behind will miss you (they won't).


  • #63
    Diabhal Beag
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    bonerm wrote: »
    2. You think the people you leave behind will miss you (they won't).
    Bull-****ING-****. My brother died years ago. I miss him so ****ing much and would give anything to spend one more day with him. People lose others close to them all the time. It never gets any better.

    You are talkng complete bollocks. Pure Emo ****


  • #64
    Riamfada
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    Diabhal Beag wrote: »
    Bull-****ING-****. My brother died years ago. I miss him so ****ing much and would give anything to spend one more day with him. People lose others close to them all the time. It never gets any better.

    You are talkng complete bollocks. Pure Emo ****

    I think it was a joke.


  • #65
    Abi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    I don't really know what to think / believe. I think its a bit too far fetched to think we go off to a better place and see the people we've lost after we die. I just think that some people just need to believe that they will see the people they've lost again, as it kind of helps them to grieve and cope with their loss. I've no problem with that, and I'd encourage it in a situation where someone was finding it difficult to deal with. That might seem somewhat two-faced, but I'm not about to argue with someones beliefs / faith or make things worse in a situation like that. The most important thing is to be supportive and respectful towards their beliefs.

    This is one of those touchy subjects, and I can see some people are getting upset by others replies. Don't be, you don't need anyone elses approval to believe what you do.


  • #66
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    I am also not sure what to think / believe on this subject although I cant remember when like most people ,it hasn't occupied my thoughts at some time .

    I suppose I am lucky in that although apart from my father when I was very young ,nobody else in my close family has died ,and for that I am grateful .I have had friends and aquaintinces die and shared in the grieving process .

    I think we should respect everybody views and I suppose if I were to choose one aspect of what happens when we die it's maybe that we be are reborn again in a spiritual ,physical sense ? although that is as much wishfull thinking than anything else .Who for example if giving the choice who would want to be born or re born into a war , famine situation like africa or disaster like Haiti ? .


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  • #67
    builttospill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭builttospill


    Mr Trade In wrote: »
    I am thinking reincarnation;if you have been bad, a tapeworm in Mary Harney.

    Surely this would be just fantastic, a parasitic utopia and a ticket to the greatest meal in the world. Therefore a ridiculous punishment for being bad in a previous life.


  • #68
    fulhamfanincork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭fulhamfanincork


    I hope to God that there is a heaven.

    If there's not, what is the point of life?


  • #69
    Abi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    fulhamfanincork wrote: »
    I hope to God that there is a heaven.

    If there's not, what is the point of life?

    Well, blind faith isn't easy. But you'd know that being a Fulham fan :pac:


  • #70
    builttospill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭builttospill


    fulhamfanincork wrote: »
    I hope to God that there is a heaven.

    If there's not, what is the point of life?

    Are you implying that the point of life is to wait for some sort of afterlife? That belief in an afterlife defines your existence? If so I feel really sorry for you. You have a life so you can live it now, while you're alive. That's why it is called life!


  • #71
    Jax Teller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,763 ✭✭✭Jax Teller


    Someones tears your eyes out an skull****s you


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  • #72
    Abi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    builttospill wrote: »
    Are you implying that the point of life is to wait for some sort of afterlife? That the belief of an afterlife defines your existence? If so I feel really sorry for you. You have a life so you can live it now, while you're alive. That's why it is called life!

    You've actually gone taken FFIC's casual comment and murdered it. And yet you feel sorry for him? If life is for the living, what are you doing arguing a fly-by comment like that? shouldn't you be off sky-diving or something?


  • #73
    Riamfada
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    builttospill wrote: »
    Are you implying that the point of life is to wait for some sort of afterlife? That the belief of an afterlife defines your existence? If so I feel really sorry for you. You have a life so you can live it now, while you're alive. That's why it is called life!

    Well if nothing you do actually matters whats the point in doing it. If your only alive to exist, consume and die than are we not just killing time? Jaysus thats a depressing thought. Living life is such a lovely concept unfortunately it is marred by high taxes, stress, financial worries. I guess then its just surviving until we die. Even more depressed now. I think Im going to quit my job and see the world. wait... no money. Now Ill just have to stay in my shit job paying the bills until my body decides to give into some sort of painful disease. Life can mbe super crap, if all the pain and loss I have gone through is just for the hell of it Im going to be pretty pissed off if I wake up dead not existing

    Logs off to find suicide booth


  • #74
    fulhamfanincork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭fulhamfanincork


    builttospill wrote: »
    Are you implying that the point of life is to wait for some sort of afterlife? That belief in an afterlife defines your existence? If so I feel really sorry for you. You have a life so you can live it now, while you're alive. That's why it is called life!

    I dunno. :D

    I just like to believe and have faith that there is an after life.


  • #75
    builttospill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭builttospill


    Grimes wrote: »
    Well if nothing you do actually matters whats the point in doing it. If your only alive to exist, consume and die than are we not just killing time? Jaysus thats a depressing thought. Living life is such a lovely concept unfortunately it is marred by high taxes, stress, financial worries. I guess then its just surviving until we die. Even more depressed now. I think Im going to quit my job and see the world. wait... no money. Now Ill just have to stay in my shit job paying the bills.

    Logs off to find suicide booth

    Depends on your outlook I suppose. Sometimes I feel the way you just described, sometimes I feel on top of the world. Same as everyone really. I have friends who are athiests who are constantly living life to the full and wouldn't agree with you and I have friends who are depressed as fcuk who would subscribe to your notion. This is more to do with chemicals in the brain than religion and this is why I am a huge believer in the wonders of the human mind and the crazy ideas and beliefs that are conjured up by the mind. Naturally talking about it on a drab Sunday evening when most people here are hungover doesn't make it much of a cheerful subject.


  • #76
    Hank_Jones
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    fulhamfanincork wrote: »
    I hope to God that there is a heaven.

    If there's not, what is the point of life?

    *insert nihilist response here*


  • #77
    aDeener
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    Hank_Jones wrote: »
    I think the closest that I came to a near death experience was...

    I was 18 and on a bus. I was fairly hammered and I ring the bell for the bus to stop, bus driver opens the door while the bus is still moving.
    Me being the feckin eejit that I am thought that the bus was stopped, the driver is hardly going to open the door when the bus is moving surely.
    So I hop off the bus and vmmmpp my legs go from under me and I do several rolls along the ground.
    Nothing worse than a few scratches but it could have gone a lot worse, could have gone under the bus.

    Ugghh kind of shudder thinking about it.

    Hank_Jones
    Registered User
    Join Date: Feb 2009
    Location: Purgatory

    Hank it was a lot worse, you died!


  • #78
    Hank_Jones
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    aDeener wrote: »
    Hank_Jones
    Registered User
    Join Date: Feb 2009
    Location: Purgatory

    Hank it was a lot worse, you died!

    That would explain the coffin...


  • #79
    builttospill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭builttospill


    Abigayle wrote: »
    You've actually gone taken FFIC's casual comment and murdered it. And yet you feel sorry for him? If life is for the living, what are you doing arguing a fly-by comment like that? shouldn't you be off sky-diving or something?

    What's FFIC and why should I be skydiving? What are you talking about?


  • #80
    fulhamfanincork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭fulhamfanincork


    Hank_Jones wrote: »
    *insert nihilist response here*

    Just my opinion. Don't want to be causing controversy.


  • #81
    fulhamfanincork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭fulhamfanincork


    builttospill wrote: »
    What's FFIC
    FFIC - My username shortened.


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  • #82
    builttospill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭builttospill


    fulhamfanincork wrote: »
    FFIC - My username shortened.

    lol ok.


  • #83
    Hank_Jones
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    fulhamfanincork wrote: »
    Just my opinion. Don't want to be causing controversy.

    You're free to your opinion, I just messing around. :D


  • #84
    Riamfada
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    builttospill wrote: »
    What's FFIC and why should I be skydiving? What are you talking about?

    That woman on her period who uses tapons while skydiving obviously has no concern of her mortal soul and lives life to the full. Im off to boots.

    "I have concluded that there is no afterlife so I have decided to live life to the full, may I please have a jumbo pack of pantiliners and directions to where I can purchase some skydiving tickets"

    Ironically the skydiving pantiliner woman died when her parachute failed to extend. Oh the Ironing!


  • #85
    jimmyw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭jimmyw


    The rats eat you or give you a BJ;)


  • #86
    builttospill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭builttospill


    Grimes wrote: »
    That woman on her period who uses tapons while skydiving obviously has no concern of her mortal soul and lives life to the full. Im off to boots.

    "I have concluded that there is no afterlife so I have decided to live life to the full, may I please have a jumbo pack of pantiliners and directions to where I can purchase some skydiving tickets"

    Ironically the skydiving pantiliner woman died when her parachute failed to extend. Oh the Ironing!

    Ah I see. It was such an irrelevant insult it passed right over my head. Pun intended.


  • #87
    Abi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    builttospill wrote: »
    What's FFIC and why should I be skydiving? What are you talking about?

    You've an incredibly disrespectful way of answering someone, do you know that? I'm not even talking about the above quote either.

    Right then, back to the drawing-board.
    Are you implying that the point of life is to wait for some sort of afterlife?
    Very defensive, and you can see by the users other replies he means no harm. It was just a quick answer to the thread from what I can see, who obviously feels that something does happen once you die. Hes entitled to that opinion, regardless of how strong it is.
    That belief in an afterlife defines your existence?
    For someone so seemingly relaxed about living their life, you aren't half coming down a bit heavy.
    If so I feel really sorry for you.
    Patronizing.
    You have a life so you can live it now, while you're alive. That's why it is called life!
    This is the one part I can actually agree with somewhat. I believe in putting my all into anything I do. Your life is what you make of it.

    The rest of it had a particularly patronizing tone, and thats coming from someone who shares your view. No need for it.


  • #88
    Big Nasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,066 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    I'm torn between two thoughts on this subject:

    A) Religion and Afterlife were created by leaders to stop humanity going into complete anarchy. I.e. if there's no eternal consequences who gives a fcuk what we do? But then again to create such a 'conspiracy' it would be the biggest achievement of all time, considering communication wasn't what it is now 2k years ago. I mean 70 years ago Europe was at war and due to better understanding of each other the chances of that happening again are practically zilch. However chances of war against a religious community that we (in general do not understand) are a lot more likely. Communication and understanding is the key to peace! Ignorance, on the other hand breeds contempt. Anyway, I digress.........

    B) Thought 'B' would be that there is indeed an Afterlife. I mean how could practically the whole world be wrong in this train of thought? As above there can't possibly be a world wide conspiracy in relation to this, never mind peoples NDE's. One thing that happened to me a few years back did tip me slightly in favour of belief: Was visiting a friends and his wife was having a few of the 'girls' over for a fortune telling session while the boys hit the sauce. Being a total non-believer in fortune telling and after having quite a few beers I got cajolled into a sitting with said fortune teller. This girl didn't know me from Adam and had zero previous knowledge about me nor any idea that I would be attending yet she was able to tell me about a presence that was looking down on me. BS, I hear you say, however she had the full name of this 'presence', a person well known to only my immediate family and rarely mentioned. There is NO WAY IN THE WORLD this girl could have had prior knowledge of this man who died over 30 years ago yet out she came with this information (among other stuff which all came true!) I have never been back to visit her or any other fortune teller but how could she 'feel that presence' if there's no afterlife?

    Either way, I'm not deeply religious, in fact my church attendance is limited to weddings, christenings and funerals as I believe one should practice in their own time and in their own way, not dictated to at 10am every Sunday morning! That doesn't take away from the fact that if I was forced to answer one way or the other I would be inclined to agree that their could well be something more out there ............


  • #89
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Pretty much everything we know about biology, neuroscience and psychology suggests that 'consciousness', memory, personality, etc., are all properties of the brain, and that when the brain dies so too do those properties.

    So I don't see how you could 'live on' after death really.
    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    B) Thought 'B' would be that there is indeed an Afterlife. I mean how could practically the whole world be wrong in this train of thought? As above there can't possibly be a world wide conspiracy in relation to this, never mind peoples NDE's.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

    Belief in this used to be pretty popular too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchcraft

    And these guys: http://www.desy.de/gna/interpedia/greek_myth/olympian.html#Olympians
    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    One thing that happened to me a few years back did tip me slightly in favour of belief: Was visiting a friends and his wife was having a few of the 'girls' over for a fortune telling session while the boys hit the sauce. Being a total non-believer in fortune telling and after having quite a few beers I got cajolled into a sitting with said fortune teller. This girl didn't know me from Adam and had zero previous knowledge about me nor any idea that I would be attending yet she was able to tell me about a presence that was looking down on me. BS, I hear you say, however she had the full name of this 'presence', a person well known to only my immediate family and rarely mentioned. There is NO WAY IN THE WORLD this girl could have had prior knowledge of this man who died over 30 years ago yet out she came with this information (among other stuff which all came true!) I have never been back to visit her or any other fortune teller but how could she 'feel that presence' if there's no afterlife?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol

    +

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_reading


  • #90
    fulhamfanincork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭fulhamfanincork


    Dave! wrote: »
    So I don't see how you could 'live on' after death really.
    Isn't that where faith comes in?


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  • #91
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    fulhamfanincork wrote: »
    Isn't that where faith comes in?
    Yeah but I'm more interested in trying to understand what's actually true rather than inventing nonsense for the sake of it

    If others want to do the latter, then they can fire away


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