Can you tell your doctor anything? ( for Men Only)

Odysseus · 24-01-2010 12:42PM

kowloon wrote: »

Never thought of this; now that I have I don't think I'd be rushing to the doctor over something that could cost me my licence. I'd imagine anyone with a history of any mental illness would be liable to lose their licence.
And no doubt an untrained Garda would be in charge of sifting through the medical histories and making judgements.

Still trying to find out more info myself. One of the GPs I work with tols me he was sent a form to fill in giving his opinion. I'm still trying to get a look at one of these. I don't think it would rule you out full stop, the was a thread on a similar topic on the shooting forum recently.

I'm just cautious as I don't know how this material is going to be used. Most people will experience some mental health issue during their life, depression following the death of a love one for example. Using this example, would that be passed on by the GP, would the Garda just see depression, rather that the reaction to a loss. Its such early days with this issue, I don't know, and that not knowing would lead me to be cautious. Now saying that, if I had a serious issue I needed to speak to him about I would. Finally just my opinion, I don't think a history should rule a person out, it depends on the case and the person. I have seen so many people turn their lives around that a blanket ban would be wrong.

Odysseus · 24-01-2010 12:54PM

sam34 wrote: »

from my experience, (i'm a psychiatrist) we've often been asked to provide reports and opinion on whether or not someone should get a licence, or get it back after a period of suspension. (i used to work in an area with a large hunting population)

whiel guards might be happy to make the decision to take/suspend a licence, they sure as hell arent going to singlehandedly take the responsibility of giving it back to someone with a psych history (nor should they)

This is a new aspect Sam, on every application now you give permission to contact GP or other medical professional. I'm not sure if its the same as the one you are referring to. Well it is, but if you get my point, it for every application now, maybe if it was in the past they where specific cases you where dealing with. Hope that makes sense. I not saying this is wrong either, I'm just cautious about it.

Due to my work and training I'm very open about my mental life within a treatment setting, but until I learn more about how this new aspect is being used I just a tad cautious. I don't have any thing to hide, the way licences are given out in Ireland varies so much that I think it justifies my caution.

sam34 · 24-01-2010 12:57PM

Odysseus wrote: »

This is a new aspect Sam, on every application now you give permission to contact GP or other medical professional. I'm not sure if its the same as the one you are referring to. Well it is, but if you get my point, it for every application now, maybe if it was in the past they where specific cases you where dealing with.

oh right, i get you now.

yep, i was talking about cases where the guards would, for whatever reason, have concerns about someones mental health and suitability to hold a firearm, and would get an assessment. they would ususally contact the gp, who would contact us.

at times, ive had to take the initiative and contact the guards advising that someones licence be suspended and the firearm removed. obviously they'd then look for a report before giving it back

Reesy · 24-01-2010 01:04PM

Well, for me it's reallly simple: I pay him good money to provide me a service, and if I want value for money I need to give him all the info he needs to do his job.

I guess if (in theory) I had a mental health issue that I was worried about my GP writing on his record card, I'd prob go to another GP elsewhere, give a false name & pay cash to get the diagnosis. Can't see it happening though.

Here's a slightly different but related question: if you notice something amiss on/in your body (a lump/rash etc.) do you ever ignore it out of fear that it's something really serious that you don't want to face?

Mimikyu · 24-01-2010 01:38PM

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weldoninhio · 24-01-2010 01:40PM

I wouldn't tell my doctor everything, i pass blood quite a lot etc, but never tell him.

brummytom · 24-01-2010 01:48PM

Voltex wrote: »

OK...so you have a really embarrassing problem that needs a visit to the GP to fix...have you the balls to do it or are you a real man and keep it to your self?

By the way this thread is for men only!
....and what constitutes are really embarrassing problem?

I've got a ridiculously embarrassing problem, but it's not causing me any hassle.

Am I going to a doctor? Am I fuck

sam34 · 24-01-2010 01:56PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

I wouldn't tell my doctor everything, i pass blood quite a lot etc, but never tell him.

if thats true then you really should tell your doc.

the cause could be any number of things and its important to get it checked out.

while it may be embarrassing and uncomfortable to discuss something personal, you gotta remember that the doc has seen and heard it all, and not just once, hundreds or even thousands of times.

i know at this stage of my career, im pretty damn unshockable

for your own sake, get this checked.

good luck.

changes · 24-01-2010 02:20PM

Reindeer wrote: »

I would think the most embarrassing would be to have the need of a 'foreign object' removed from a body cavity. And yes, a bottle of Jameson still counts as a foreign object. I keep having to correct the doctors when they bring that point up on my visits...

I keep getting them stuck in my ear, btw, you dirty-minded bastards.

I just pondered that thought for a moment.

Is it an urban legend or have people really turned up to casulty with the infamous; 'doctor i was having a shower and fell back and landed on the bottle and it went up my......' story.

Just think about the sequence of events that would lead to the trip to casulty...could they drive themselves, would they call the ambulance, would they panic and tell their wife, parents, flatmates etc and get transported to hospital lying sideways in the back of the car.

Would they get carried into the ER room bent over trousers at their ankles. They would have to meet the triage nurse, wait in the waiting room, explain to an unbelieving doctor what happened etc.

The embarrassment would be beyond hideous? Has it ever really happened, its difficult to imagine???

sam34 · 24-01-2010 02:23PM

changes wrote: »

I just pondered that thought for a moment.

Is it an urban legend or have people really turned up to casulty with the infamous; 'doctor i was having a shower and fell back and landed on the bottle and it went up my......' story.

Just think about the sequence of events that would lead to the trip to casulty...could they drive themselves, would they call the ambulance, would they panic and tell their wife, parents, flatmates etc and get transported to hospital lying sideways in the back of the car.

Would they get carried into the ER room bent over trousers at their ankles. They would have to meet the triage nurse, wait in the waiting room, explain to an unbelieving doctor what happened etc.

The embarrassment would be beyond hideous? Has it ever really happened, its difficult to imagine???

oh yes, its happened. many many times

honestly, you wouldnt believe what people turn up with

hence my post above that docs have seen and heard it all

changes · 24-01-2010 02:32PM

sam34 wrote: »

oh yes, its happened. many many times

Its hard to imagine anything on earth more embarrassing that that. The doctors attempt to keep a straight face would be a picture too.

Odysseus · 24-01-2010 02:34PM

sam34 wrote: »

hence my post above that docs have seen and heard it all

I see into peoples lifes from a different angle, but you know each I say that, someone always comes along with....

24-01-2010 02:42PM

Oh I had to! It was too painful for me not to. Turned out to be orchitis, if you want to know what it is, google it.

InKonspikuou2 · 24-01-2010 04:05PM

I asked about a penis reduction procedure before. Took me a long time to get around to asking about it. I had seen something on tv about the operation. However the doctor advised against it. Not trying to brag as nobody knows me here. But being 'well equipped' has it's problems too. And just as people who are small can be self conscious. I am very self conscious of it. Feels like it's on show and it's embarrassing when people think you are erect. Sex can also be very difficult. It takes a lot of blood rushing to the area and some girls don't want to deal with something that size.

Dudess · 24-01-2010 05:27PM

I don't think I've ever known my dad to go to the doctor - seems to be a thing for that generation. Viewed as a sign of weakness or something.

OutlawPete · 24-01-2010 05:31PM

Dudess wrote: »

I don't think I've ever known my dad to go to the doctor - seems to be a thing for that generation. Viewed as a sign of weakness or something.

My Dad was the same.

Odysseus · 24-01-2010 05:53PM

InKonspikuou2 wrote: »

I asked about a penis reduction procedure before. Took me a long time to get around to asking about it. I had seen something on tv about the operation. However the doctor advised against it. Not trying to brag as nobody knows me here. But being 'well equipped' has it's problems too. And just as people who are small can be self conscious. I am very self conscious of it. Feels like it's on show and it's embarrassing when people think you are erect. Sex can also be very difficult. It takes a lot of blood rushing to the area and some girls don't want to deal with something that size.

You have just blown your username now.

Ruu_Old · 24-01-2010 05:59PM

I have little to no trust in doctors, far too many want to prescribe this or that and out the door with you, nice to see that x amount of years/thousands in college fees in school has worked. My doctor is a women though, I feel much more comfortable when I do have to go in though.

It also comes from my Dad who would have to be crawling on the floor and coughing up blood to even consider going to doctor.

sam34 · 24-01-2010 06:58PM

Ruu wrote: »

I have little to no trust in doctors, far too many want to prescribe this or that and out the door with you, nice to see that x amount of years/thousands in college fees in school has worked.

**SHOCK HORROR** a doctor wants to prescribe something????

surely not?

i mean, why would they prescribe something that they believe would alleviate your symptoms?

all those years in college learning about pharmacology and clinical conditions so they can appropriately treat those conditions, and thats what they want to do - madness, pure madness :rolleyes:

what next - we'll go to dentists and find out they want to fill those holes in our teeth!

Can you tell your doctor anything? ( for Men Only)

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