Death Penalty for gangters ?? Why not ???

Captain_Generic · 18-01-2010 08:34PM

irishdub14 wrote: »

i would definitely accept the death penalty to f*cking horrible people who have done disgusting things, but only if the courts are 100% sure they are guilty.......

That sounds like an ultimatum

Pushtrak · 18-01-2010 08:34PM

The Al Lad wrote: »

kill them all

thay are only scum

Just to clarify something, who do you mean by "they"? The murderers, serial murderers, the convicted... Just looking for something less vague.

ejmaztec · 18-01-2010 08:36PM

IvySlayer wrote: »

Because no-one has the right removing someone from this planet, no-one. Death is an easy way out for criminals.

Make the prisons tougher. No TV, no newspaper, no food, no water. No recreational activies, no games room, no visitors. Strict protocols, any rules broken, conditions get tougher. Prisoners used to clean the streets. In chains. No wage. No lights.

fyp

You have to make it harder than living outside the prison.:(

The Al Lad · 18-01-2010 08:43PM

Pushtrak wrote: »

Just to clarify something, who do you mean by "they"? The murderers, serial murderers, the convicted... Just looking for something less vague.

wat do you think I mean, do ya think im talking about bingo ladies (vicous as they are) of course im talking about murderers,cold blooded murderering scum that killed that young plumber anthony campbell, if they were ever caught they should be executed

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citizen_p · 18-01-2010 08:47PM

too be honest i perfer seeing them shoot eachother, adds a bit of excitment to the news

4zn76tysfajdxp · 18-01-2010 08:48PM

No speculation about ongoing murder cases, please. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. You all know what I'm talking about.

Dr. Baltar · 18-01-2010 09:07PM

Forced Labour, deprived of Human Rights, Prperty of the State would be a better option in my opinion.

Prof.Badass · 18-01-2010 09:07PM

The power to end people's lives is too great for any person to handle responsibly (that's providing some people do deserve death-which is questionable). Surely it's just the same for society if someone guilty of multiple murders is locked up forever.

You have to make laws in such a way as to protect the common person from abuses of power. Not granting the government power over the life and death of it's citizens is a tiny price to pay to ensure much bigger injustices never occur.

Muff_Daddy · 18-01-2010 09:07PM

I used to be in favour of the death penalty, and I still am in theory - I truely believe if you take an innocent person's life you forefeit your own right to life, however, the justice system isn't perfect and there is always the chance that an innocent person can be wrongly put to death.

irishdub14 · 18-01-2010 09:07PM

Warren Vast Vacuum wrote: »

No speculation about ongoing murder cases, please. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. You all know what I'm talking about.

oops.........! cant help myself :P

Kernel · 18-01-2010 09:29PM

Like I always say, capitol punishment brought us from caveman times to civilisation. It's been proven to work, tried and tested.

Futurism · 18-01-2010 09:35PM

Battle Royale.

WeeBushy · 18-01-2010 09:42PM

irishdub14 wrote: »

but only if the courts are 100% sure they are guilty.......

And how can they be 100% sure, taking into account human error?

Take America, for example, who have capital punishment. There are many cases of innocent people being put to death.

Even if you think capital punishment is a good thing in theory, could you really endorse bringing it back considering it will inevitable result in an innocent person being put to death?

jd007 · 18-01-2010 09:42PM

The Al Lad wrote: »

oh... and kill all people from galway while your at it

The fúck....

Why, just why?

orourkeda · 18-01-2010 09:45PM

KINGofHEARTS wrote: »

hi there guys,

having been reading the papers lately and in the last few days especially about the thug who shot the men dead in pearse house and the way he has shown utter contempt for the law has really pi$$ed me off, he pulled his trousers down to the judge and told him to "spank that hairy arse and suck it hard" ok so when he gets life then we have to put him in prison and pay 40 or 50 gand a year to keep him there,

Why not just bring back the death penalty and get rid of him and save the state a load of money,
the amount of murders in recent times is DISGRACEFUL... these guys think they can do wat they want, I'm sure if the death penalty was in they would think twice before stepping out to kill another human being, so far this year 6 people have been murdered,thats one every 3 days, if that was to carry on all year there would be over 1000 death's at the end of this year

Bring back the death penalty for these scum !!!

I would also include scum like Joe O'Reilly and that inbred scumbag Ronnie dunbar

I hope you have better evidence for murdering than the evidence that sent him to Jail.

ColmDawson · 18-01-2010 09:46PM

"Many that live deserve death. And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends." -J.R.R. Tolkien

irishdub14 · 18-01-2010 09:47PM

WeeBushy wrote: »

And how can they be 100% sure, taking into account human error?

Take America, for example, who have capital punishment. There are many cases of innocent people being put to death.

Even if you think capital punishment is a good thing in theory, could you really endorse bringing it back considering it will inevitable result in an innocent person being put to death?

well, ya know, people who obviously/clearly commited the crime........(i.e. was on CCTV killing someone)

WeeBushy · 18-01-2010 09:51PM

irishdub14 wrote: »

well, ya know, people who obviously/clearly commited the crime........(i.e. was on CCTV killing someone)

And what if someone had doctored the tape? If a film like Avatar can be made, I doubt that would be beyond the possibilities of some people.

Lockstep · 18-01-2010 09:57PM

KINGofHEARTS wrote: »

Why not just bring back the death penalty and get rid of him and save the state a load of money,
the amount of murders in recent times is DISGRACEFUL... these guys think they can do wat they want, I'm sure if the death penalty was in they would think twice before stepping out to kill another human being, so far this year 6 people have been murdered,thats one every 3 days, if that was to carry on all year there would be over 1000 death's at the end of this year

These guys already face the death penalty from rivals on a daily basis, and these ways of execution are a hell of a lot more brutal than anything the State could get away with.

There's no way in hell it would act as a deterrent to these people.

irishdub14 · 18-01-2010 09:59PM

WeeBushy wrote: »

And what if someone had doctored the tape? If a film like Avatar can be made, I doubt that would be beyond the possibilities of some people.

i give up.........!! :P

Sandvich · 18-01-2010 09:59PM

People are aware that the Death Penatly can be more expensive than keeping them in Jail, right?

syklops · 18-01-2010 10:01PM

Wagon wrote: »

Ah apperently its "unhumane" :mad: You'l see the some pansies posting here about how we should not be judges about who lives and dies.

You mean inhumane.

Wagon wrote: »

Well, i happen to be a direct decident of jesus.

Do you mean dissident or descendant?

WeeBushy · 18-01-2010 10:03PM

irishdub14 wrote: »

i give up.........!! :P

Good :P

I personally don't agree with capital punishment in theory, but even for those that do, I think it is a very dangerous thing to advocate.

Lockstep · 18-01-2010 10:06PM

In theory I can see a logic to it.

However, there's no way it can practicaly be carried out, given how arseways our government and justice system is. Also, I don't want the State to have life and death power over me.

Most of the people who commit crimes bad enough to even theoretically merit death are involved in such bad **** that our death system is no deterrent.
Add to that the incredible legal costs of the death row/appeal cycle (unless you want to eliminate this and run the risk of even more innocent people being put to death) and you'll see why I'm utterly opposed to the idea.

Dudess · 18-01-2010 10:08PM

There's only one reason for the death penalty not being reintroduced: to be PC! That's it - no other reason.

Lockstep · 18-01-2010 10:15PM

Nonono Dudess. It's because we're all a bunch of hand-wringing, bleeding heart, trendy, liberal do gooders who would change our tune the minute it happened to us.

AckwelFoley · 18-01-2010 10:17PM

KINGofHEARTS wrote: »

I would also include scum like Joe O'Reilly and that inbred scumbag Ronnie dunbar

I wouldnt.

There are too many known cases of innocent men subsequently proven guilty after the execution.

Joe was guilty and id rather see the man kicked in the nuts at high noon every day and share a cell with a convicted rapist called Jimbo, the 7' tall 400lb mildly retarded ex american football playing homosexual with a penchant for overweight middle aged whiteboys, however there is no room for collateral damage, so i would prefer that people that have been proven on a number of counts get the bullet aka ted bundy, gary rigeway ,David Berkowitz & Jeffrey Dahmer

Herb Powell · 18-01-2010 11:14PM

no.
let's not go back to the middle ages, thanks

K-9 · 18-01-2010 11:18PM

Its been a great success in the States.

OutlawPete · 18-01-2010 11:18PM

Dudess wrote: »

There's only one reason for the death penalty not being reintroduced: to be PC! That's it - no other reason.

What about to protect people who are victims of miscarriages of justice?

If they had the death penalty in the UK, all the members of the Birmingham Six, Maguire Seven and the Guildford Four would be dead.

Death Penalty for gangters ?? Why not ???

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