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Friends with the opposite sex

  • 15-01-2010 02:08PM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭


    Anytime I go into Personal Issues, it's loaded with threads about people who either have or want to hook up with their "best friend" who is a member of the opposite sex. So do you think it's possible to have a completely platonic relationship with a member of the opposite sex that you find attractive? I haven't many female friends, and only one in particular that I would consider a really good friend, but she's not attractive enough for me to want to sleep with her or go out with her, I'd imagine things would be different if I thought otherwise, but we have snogged each other drunk a couple of times in years gone by. So do you really think you can have a friendship with the other sex 100% the same as you'd have with same sex? I don't, but that's only from my experience. Your thoughts?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    It is possible for adults.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I have friends of the opposite sex with no drunken problems or fumblings.

    I don't know how they do it though, I'm stunningly attractive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 446 ✭✭Lillylilly


    It is absolutely possible. I have a few very good male friends. I have never found them attractive or wanted to be with them- they're just friends, same as my female friends!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭thebiglad


    I have many friends of opposite sex including 1 going back many years whom I would consider amongst my best friends. Never had a problem with this.

    I grew up in England and went to a mixed school - I believe that this slightly adjusts your view on the matter.

    My wife took a while to adjust to the idea though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭InKonspikuou2


    I only really have platonic relationships with my female friends that i've slept with over the years. All been drunken one night affairs with some repeat performances a few months or years later. It's like i can be more relaxed around them knowing that we've both seen each other in the nip.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Proto


    Lillylilly wrote: »
    It is absolutely possible. I have a few very good male friends. I have never found them attractive or wanted to be with them- they're just friends, same as my female friends!

    Thing is they probably want to "bone you" ;)


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,717 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    I would say 90% of my friends are female. Around 20% of them are human.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    Alot of male friends would have girlfriends so on the whole I just never think of them like that. So it is possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭bugler


    Girls think it's a great idea, because they're not men and don't understand us.

    There is a word for a man who has platonic only female friends...what is it again...oh yeah: "homosexual".

    We will screw you if given half a chance (assuming you're attractive). If you're not attractive, we still might screw you if we're drunk/horny/vulnerable enough.

    It's not that we don't like you as people, or think you're wonderful, and intelligent and smart. It's just that we have an over-riding, hard-coded desire to put our penises in you. And while we can ignore it, or restrain it, it probably is only the lack of the opportunity that means we won't do it. If you think that this denial of biological desire is friendship, then yes we can be friends. Just don't be surprised when you wake up in the morning and your "friend" who slept in the bed beside you because you're so close in a platonic sense-like is poking you with an erection you could herd goats with.

    If you are a man and you disagree with me, please consult your GP. You are probably a homosexual.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    Of course it can work. One of my best mates is a guy and we've been best mates for 25 years and have never crossed the line. I see him as a girl and he sees me as a guy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 446 ✭✭Lillylilly


    Proto wrote: »
    Thing is they probably want to "bone you" ;)

    Haha, not so much!! I think when you first become friends with a member of the opposite sex, there can be that unsure feeling of "what is this?" cos we're so used to being told boys and girls can't be friends. When you pass through that phase, it's great. It's really good to have that insight into the opposite sex through someone who can honestly tell you.

    One of my best friends is a bloke and he will be my best man when I marry my boy! My boy is cool with it cos he knows how much I love and appreciate my mate!

    Also, my boy has loads of really close girl friends. I think that's why we have a mutual understanding- we both know it's possible to just be friends!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Platonic is about what you do, not necessarily how you feel, to my mind. Even if you do like the person, if they're not single, you keep your damn mouth shut and don't let on.

    Also, your demographic is skewed. You don't get people coming on PI (that I've seen anyway) saying "Hi, my best friend's a woman, but I don't really want to shag her. I know this is weird so what can I do?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,182 ✭✭✭dvpower


    This question was extensively dealt with in this documentary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,260 ✭✭✭Elessar


    Only if neither of you are attracted to each other.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    Kiera wrote: »
    he sees me as a guy.

    You might want to girly up your wardrobe or something!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Ladder theory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    You might want to girly up your wardrobe or something!
    Nah the wardrobe is girlie, i think it might be the ronnie tho....:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    I only really have platonic relationships with my female friends that i've slept with over the years. All been drunken one night affairs with some repeat performances a few months or years later. It's like i can be more relaxed around them knowing that we've both seen each other in the nip.

    Presumably you also do the same with all your male friends in the interests of relaxation.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    bonerm wrote: »
    Presumably you also do the same with all your male friends in the interests of relaxation.

    That's what I mean, people go on about them being one of the guys etc but they've slept with them in the past. I don't go sleeping with my male friends often.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    I don't go sleeping with my male friends often.

    Freudian Slip there? ;)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Freudian Slip there? ;)

    only if we're REALLY drunk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    only if we're REALLY drunk

    Well played Sir.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    Anytime I go into Personal Issues, it's loaded with threads about people who either have or want to hook up with their "best friend" who is a member of the opposite sex. So do you think it's possible to have a completely platonic relationship with a member of the opposite sex that you find attractive? I haven't many female friends, and only one in particular that I would consider a really good friend, but she's not attractive enough for me to want to sleep with her or go out with her, I'd imagine things would be different if I thought otherwise, but we have snogged each other drunk a couple of times in years gone by. So do you really think you can have a friendship with the other sex 100% the same as you'd have with same sex? I don't, but that's only from my experience. Your thoughts?

    I think you can be friends in the sense of "they're in my top 10/20 etc." but i don't really think two heterosexual people of opposite sexes can be best mates without biology kicking in and those feelings growing untill they become something else.

    If they are not attractive enough for you I don't think you would allow yourself to get this close to them for fear of sending them the wrong message.

    Interestingly enough, I remember reading somewhere that relationships between people who were friends first have a higher success rate (I'm guessing because you already know them well so there's no surprises). I think having a short period of increasing friendship is a more natural way of starting a relationship than setting a sexual tone right from the beginning and then waiting for feelings to develop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭The Chessplayer


    Yes it's possible and if you've been friends with them for years, then you're not likely to even see them as a potential target.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭_ZeeK_


    well if you were to say no...

    by the same logic (i.e., possibility of finding them attractive), a bisexual could have no friends at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Rev. Kitchen


    Why would i want to be friends with a girl ? they smell


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    _ZeeK_ wrote: »
    well if you were to say no...

    by the same logic (i.e., possibility of finding them attractive), a bisexual could have no friends at all.

    they don't deserve friends, they're greedy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Kiera wrote: »
    Of course it can work. One of my best mates is a guy and we've been best mates for 25 years and have never crossed the line. I see him as a girl and he sees me as a guy.

    Wow, you're over 25? Wasn't expecting that.


    Hmmm, I do think there can be a very strong friendship between two people of the opposite sex, like Kiera's is, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't fcuk each other if given the chance.

    I like to use http://laddertheory.com/ for explanations of these things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    Wow, you're over 25? Wasn't expecting that.


    Hmmm, I do think there can be a very strong friendship between two people of the opposite sex, like Kiera's is, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't fcuk each other if given the chance.

    I like to use http://laddertheory.com/ for explanations of these things.
    Yup i'm durty 30 ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭InKonspikuou2


    bonerm wrote: »
    Presumably you also do the same with all your male friends in the interests of relaxation.

    No. Just head.
    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    That's what I mean, people go on about them being one of the guys etc but they've slept with them in the past. I don't go sleeping with my male friends often.

    Ah i see. So you just sleep with your male friends now and then.

    Anyways i don't see them as one of the guys just because i've slept with them. Why would i? It just means i can talk to them without any of that stupid flirting or sexual tension bullshít that i see existing between some of my friends for years. While they are dancing around it i've already danced on it and stomped it into the fúcking ground. They try side with everything the girl says and be nice and stuff. Whereas i seem to be able to have proper conversations and debates with the girls i've slept with. Yes there are girls i have not been with that i get on great with and vice versa. But for the most part the above has been true for me.

    Chris Rock said it best. Men don't have plantonic friends. They just have women we haven't fúcked yet.


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